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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 10 2012 02:14 GMT
#2281
The timing was ok since he forced units in beginning, the problem was that the unit composition was too stalker heavy.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
December 10 2012 02:14 GMT
#2282
On December 10 2012 11:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
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On December 10 2012 11:12 Havik_ wrote:
Macro > cute 2 base all in that was nearly a minute late.

When did it hit? I thought it was supposed to be ≈9 minutes


PartinG hits it around 8:30-8:45. Moves out with 3 immortals and sentries, wrap in zealots to act as FF and soul his way for a win!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 10 2012 02:14 GMT
#2283
On December 10 2012 11:14 GreyKnight wrote:
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On December 10 2012 11:13 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:12 ZeromuS wrote:
The problem here is that hero left his base way too late. He doesn't quite have this build down very tight it seems like.

He does, he just doesn't do it tight against top notch Koreans. No idea why, maybe he's nervous or maybe he tries to fake them out but he delays the timing for some reason

probably because top notch koreans can hold the standard timing

although apparently parting is a god because he beat a few foreigners with a build


parting got famous for the build from his GSL interviews where he used it, not from using it on foreigners. sniper is the only one who beat it.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13405 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2284
On December 10 2012 11:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
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On December 10 2012 11:12 Havik_ wrote:
Macro > cute 2 base all in that was nearly a minute late.

When did it hit? I thought it was supposed to be ≈9 minutes


You leave your base at 8:50 with 8 sentrys, 3 immortals and a stalker and zealot with 7 gates finishing, a warp prism rallied and an observer after that. You should be hitting the natural and skipping the third base just before 10 minutes.
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Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2285
shiiet, immortals holding the fort
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2286
On December 10 2012 11:14 Delphiki wrote:
I'm not that familiar on SC2.. is this still a winnable situation for HerO?


No
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2287
How much health and kills does that 1 immortal have?
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2288
On December 10 2012 11:13 stuchiu wrote:
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On December 10 2012 11:12 Havik_ wrote:
Macro > cute 2 base all in that was nearly a minute late.


You've never seen an all-in till you've seen Seed vs Sniper on Abyssal.



Which season and round in was this?

On December 10 2012 11:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:12 Havik_ wrote:
Macro > cute 2 base all in that was nearly a minute late.

When did it hit? I thought it was supposed to be ≈9 minutes



When Parting does this build perfectly, I've seen him moving out before 9 minutes. Hero was moving out at like 9:40. Too late.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26459 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2289
On December 10 2012 11:14 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:13 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:12 ZeromuS wrote:
The problem here is that hero left his base way too late. He doesn't quite have this build down very tight it seems like.

He does, he just doesn't do it tight against top notch Koreans. No idea why, maybe he's nervous or maybe he tries to fake them out but he delays the timing for some reason

probably because top notch koreans can hold the standard timing

although apparently parting is a god because he beat a few foreigners with a build

Parting's execution of that build, and Squirtle's means it can beat any player regardless of if they know the timing. Hence why he's regarding as a god with that build. HerO doesn't seem to have the balls to just commit to hitting it
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2290
Not sure what Bitterdam are watching here tbh, canceling the third is more or less the deathknell.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2291
violet! yeah baby
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
President Dead
Profile Joined November 2012
97 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2292
ez
Hey, I'm a police officer. Just do what I tell ya.
Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2293
On December 10 2012 11:14 Delphiki wrote:
I'm not that familiar on SC2.. is this still a winnable situation for HerO?


apparently not
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2294
On December 10 2012 11:13 HeavenResign wrote:
Violet really engaged that perfectly, didn't over-drone, got one evo chamber to upgrade instead of two, got lings in while costing hero a lot of ff's early on, amazing micro from both sides.

'Twas beautiful, getting the mix between lings and roaches perfect is so tough. Excellent 2nd game from Violet.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
December 10 2012 02:16 GMT
#2295
On December 10 2012 11:14 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:12 Havik_ wrote:
Macro > cute 2 base all in that was nearly a minute late.

When did it hit? I thought it was supposed to be ≈9 minutes


PartinG hits it around 8:30-8:45. Moves out with 3 immortals and sentries, wrap in zealots to act as FF and soul his way for a win!


Parting's build is always a nexus first though which allows him to do that. Is that what Hero did this game? If not moving out around 9 - 9:30 is expected.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
December 10 2012 02:16 GMT
#2296
NASL never goes well for HerO @_@

At least now I can proudly proclaim my viOLet hipsterness to others when viOlet wins.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
December 10 2012 02:16 GMT
#2297
On December 10 2012 11:12 Sabu113 wrote:
That's why you teach newbs that macro > micro.

Cute good engagements by HerO but that whole army is more cost effective and in larger numbers. That threatened counter attack was huge.


Bit disappointing that you can't punish no gas sub 5minute 3 base.


Well, if you mess it up as badly as Hero did, you don't even deserve to punish it. He let himself get delayed a long time and missed FFs to boot. This build is so faceroll that messing it up is so hard to do, yet he did it.
Ender2701
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States581 Posts
December 10 2012 02:16 GMT
#2298
Lol what are you guys talking about with the "1 minute late thing". He had more early pressure than Parting, which is why it was a little later, but you're supposed to move out at 9min and hit at ~10, which is what HerO did.
blacknwhite
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada6 Posts
December 10 2012 02:16 GMT
#2299
dat micro by hero.. down 70 supply + shit loads of terrans...

impressive hold by hero nonetheless!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 10 2012 02:16 GMT
#2300
On December 10 2012 11:06 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 10:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
Just going to pull a top 10 list out of my ass.

1. MVP
2. DRG
3. Leenock (pretty interchangeable with 4)
4. Life
5. Taeja: The Summer of Taeja was incredible Starcraft
6. Stephano: People are forgetting just how good he was for a while.
7. Gumiho: Clutch teamleague monster, 2 GSTL titles
8. MC: Always there or thereabouts, however he is very inconsistent.
9. Seed: Broke the Protoss duck in GSL.
10. HerO: Consistently good play

I'd stick in Rain, but he's not been around for the whole year. He's also just dropped to Code B. If he showed the kind of play we've seen from him so far, over a longer period he'd 100% be in here.

Is this for player of the yar? How could mkp not crack top 10 for what he did in the first half of the year and now back to back ro8 code S?

He hasn't made deep Code S runs, or had a good spell over foreign tournies in different periods. That said, not his fault that Prime can't send him everywhere. If he'd have won WCG he probably would have made it in but he didn't do that well there alas. Parting likewise, much as I love him didn't quite do it for me.

That and the glasses. He looks like what Elton John would look like if he was reincarnated as a Korean progamer.

Come on HerO for game 2! That was a bit sloppy on his part, but that pathing is ridiculous. Daybreak is a terrible map anyway, surprised people aren't more vocal in having it removed

I don't see how Gumiho can be ranked above marineking
Marineking won a MLG championship and a MLG arena. 3rd at another MLG.
Gumiho only made it past the ro32 of Code S 1 time this year. every other season he lost in the ro32 including one season where he lost to Thorzain
Marineking made it to the ro16 or higher in every season of Code S this year.
Gumiho won 2 GSTLs. sure.
Marineking won 1 GSTL where he 4 killed in the finals and led the GSTL season with the best record.
Sure, Gumiho is the better player right now, but for the whole year? no way
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