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ssi.bal-listic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States568 Posts
December 08 2012 11:44 GMT
#4141
On December 08 2012 20:28 Qikz wrote:
Any VODS in Korean for this anywhere?

yea in youtube channel ESportsTV
"It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you" "The strong one doesn't win, the one that wins is strong"
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
December 08 2012 11:45 GMT
#4142
On December 08 2012 20:34 Fjodorov wrote:
I find it very strange that EG-TL put Jaedong on Ohana. Seems rather obvious that it would be better to have protoss or terran on that map.


They probably wanted to welcome him to the family..
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
AverageAsianDude
Profile Joined December 2012
England91 Posts
December 08 2012 11:53 GMT
#4143
free vods on twitch!! woot woot
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
December 08 2012 11:53 GMT
#4144
Wow
banelings
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 12:33:04
December 08 2012 11:55 GMT
#4145
Fell asleep during JYP's match and woke up to JD losing.

They need Hero, Taeja and Stephano in frequently or we're sadly just going to have another foreigner laughing stock team.

Actually it being a EG line up other than Zenio getting Flashed makes me a bit happier.
PviLLe3
Profile Joined January 2012
United States305 Posts
December 08 2012 11:56 GMT
#4146
On December 08 2012 20:53 AverageAsianDude wrote:
free vods on twitch!! woot woot



what twitch channel? can i get a link please, ty
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
December 08 2012 11:56 GMT
#4147
Unholy Alliance
I'm a mennonite, yes I'm allowed to use a computer
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#4148
On December 08 2012 20:56 PviLLe3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 20:53 AverageAsianDude wrote:
free vods on twitch!! woot woot



what twitch channel? can i get a link please, ty


http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
December 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#4149
So IMO the dream team should be

HerO, Taeja, Stephano, Sea, and here is the deal... I don't know who might be that good 5th but I'd put IdrA there... not sure why but just a feeling.
banelings
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12973 Posts
December 08 2012 12:10 GMT
#4150
Why the heck didn't they use their strong players?
I knew 6 points was too expensive for a foreigner team x.c
WriterMaru
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
December 08 2012 12:27 GMT
#4151
How big was the crowd? Was it standard BW-PL size, or the size of what hybrid league had?

I'm kinda surprised by the 4-0, sure KT has years of experience on how to prepare for a specific map but still. I would at least expect JYP to win a game...
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
SKDN
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden243 Posts
December 08 2012 12:29 GMT
#4152
Wow what a slaughter, lets hope they will pull out hero and taeja for next matchup
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
December 08 2012 12:29 GMT
#4153
On December 08 2012 20:59 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 20:56 PviLLe3 wrote:
On December 08 2012 20:53 AverageAsianDude wrote:
free vods on twitch!! woot woot



what twitch channel? can i get a link please, ty


http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague


Also free korean vods on youtube e-sports channel

Youtube
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Lordanubis
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom198 Posts
December 08 2012 12:30 GMT
#4154
4-0? o.O

What the heck happened?
"Hell hath no fury like a Shattered Star" - The Shattered Star
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
December 08 2012 12:45 GMT
#4155
Shit I missed Flash game again T.T How is he doing??
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
December 08 2012 12:47 GMT
#4156
On December 08 2012 20:30 cari-kira wrote:
1. you dont need a place to "grow" foreigners. the koreans have a completely different system. in korea progamers have a popidol like status. its a job at least some people can do for living.
even when you put 10 foreigners in a "bootcamp" for years you wont get the same results, because you dont have the numbers. what is 10 against 100.000?

2. your vision from "koreans, swarming foreign tournaments for the prizemoney" sounds very.. well, stupid.
these koreans usually get invited, because noone would notice your tournament if no top koreans are starting there.
nobody noticing means less prizemoney, and this is worse for foreign players than for koreans, who still have GSL, PL, OGN etc.

3. about the german bundesliga:
its still the situation that about 50% of the players are foreigners.
on the starting day of the last season 2011/2012 there were 54% germans and 46% foreign players on the field.

dont post wrong facts if you dont get your shit together.


1) This is wrong. This was maybe true for BW, but not for Sc2. I would also think that the vast majority of sc2 sales were not made in korea. But yes, they have a different system, and better (as in more focused) training conditions. Your "popidols" (lol) live in small appartments and have to share their room with other people though. This does not work so well for the western players because a) not every team can afford an EG style house and b) the players are from all over the world, compared to just korea.

2) This does hurt the tournaments in the long run. It was a novelty to see foreigners play against top koreans, but its not anymore. The next big thing were/are Kespa players. This will wear off too. It gets *boring* to view foreign tournaments where such a large portion of players are koreans who pretty much make out the best places among themselves. There is a reason that the most viewed matches are foreigners / koreans. Do you realy think that all the other Proleague games will get a viewercount like the EGLiquid ones? If you don't start to invest in growing a local scene it will NEVER get better.
(Additionally, single tournaments like MLG are way more suitable to play in even if you are not american than a weeks/month long GSL)

3) Before you insult people you should check those "facts" yourself. Those 48% are not from a single country, the largest batch (~7%) are austrians, a direct neighbour and also german speaking. Just like 13-14% are not from the EU.
Also, compare to the other leagues and how well they do. Spain, pretty much the best team in the world has 37%. EPL? 65% and they have a huge problem in their national team. Every league who wants to get better has to invest into homegrown talent. If this is not the case they will suffer. A large portion of the best players of each club are from their own youthsystem now, it has the most fans in the stadions of all competitors, its not a 2 team league like spain and it attracts even more viewers on TV from all over the world.

But ofc you can think what you want, just don't expect the situation to get any better. The hype is down, the addon will not be able to ignite it to WoL levels again. We will see who pays the prizemoney or flights when the viewercount gets lower and lower.
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 08 2012 12:58 GMT
#4157
On December 08 2012 20:43 Undead1993 wrote:
just watched the vods and its ok they lost, it's not like they've shown the best line up they have, but MONTECRISTO SRSLY WTF? :o he made so many mistakes. a little bit disappointed by his casting

It was his first time ever casting SC2 btw. Don't worry, he will only be casting one more day of proleague.
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Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
December 08 2012 13:05 GMT
#4158
On December 08 2012 21:45 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Shit I missed Flash game again T.T How is he doing??


Oh, you know, just raping everybody
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Dotq
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway235 Posts
December 08 2012 13:07 GMT
#4159
I wouldnt worry too much guys, this was possibly the weakest lineup eg and tl could thrown together.

Cant remember watching a zenio game since he beat idra in gsl... When Taeja and hero joins the force we'll see if tl/eg can hang with kespa teams:p
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
December 08 2012 13:18 GMT
#4160
Fuck yeah KT, that's how we start the season boys. Thanks Fionn, the curse never fails.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
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