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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 02 2012 08:35 GMT
#41
I forgot that Bomber and Polt were kinda like rivals, atleast in my eyes. Back when they both streamed a lot and often at the same time they would always run into eachother on the ladder, good times.

Debating on whether or not I should just not sleep in order to catch the games today, cause thats the only way I'll be able to watch.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 02 2012 08:47 GMT
#42
My two thoughts: for some reason I think Bomber has great chances to win this, his play is just so inspired right now. And, I think people underestimate Violet in favor of Leenock way too much.
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 02 2012 08:47 GMT
#43
dont know who to cheer for. If Polt makes it, he has 50% of playing mediocre next round and losing. If Bomber wins, he has 91% of derping later but 9% of steamroll everyone with style, leenock or not.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 02 2012 08:50 GMT
#44
Bomber's law: Bomber will always disappoint.

Corollary to Bomber's law: If Bomber does not disappoint, it will be to set up an even bigger disappointment in the future


Bomber has made a fan of me with the play he's brought out in the last few rounds of this tournament.... but POLT will forever have my heart as the best terran in the game. I don't think Bomber can get more hype behind him this tournament... it's time for the let down.
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
December 02 2012 09:27 GMT
#45
I shall pray to the Gods to smile upon Bomber
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 02 2012 09:49 GMT
#46
I want Bomber to win so, so badly, and honestly I think he can. Think of how much of a beast he was in TvZ yesterday, some of the most incredible games I've ever seen. Bomber got this.
henrikyo
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway755 Posts
December 02 2012 09:52 GMT
#47
Didnt really notice this, but all koreans top 12

From 13-16 its one norwegian, one canadian, one chinese and another korean.

really impressed by snute this tournament, continues his form from dreamhack
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 02 2012 09:55 GMT
#48
On December 02 2012 13:52 Acronysis wrote:
I don't mean this offensively, i'm just curious. Why does everyone like Bomber so much? What's his appeal?


Watch bomber vs DRG winner semifinals g1 mlg raleigh 2011. Then you know what bomber is all about.
Coffin
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany229 Posts
December 02 2012 10:03 GMT
#49
On December 02 2012 18:55 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 13:52 Acronysis wrote:
I don't mean this offensively, i'm just curious. Why does everyone like Bomber so much? What's his appeal?


Watch bomber vs DRG winner semifinals g1 mlg raleigh 2011. Then you know what bomber is all about.



Case in point:

+ Show Spoiler +


Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
December 02 2012 10:03 GMT
#50
Polt please win this !!!!
I hope Violet beats Leenock, I think Polt has more chance against him if he reaches the GF...
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
December 02 2012 10:23 GMT
#51
I am really hoping Polt can take this, but my head tells me Leenock will win if he gets past Violet.

Leenock is an excellent Zerg, with a lot of none standard strats + most importantly his mentality looks suited to these type of tournaments, where the games come at you without time to prepare
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 02 2012 10:27 GMT
#52
Leenock/Bomber final hopefully

Pretty happy with whoever wins, hopefully we get some great games.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 02 2012 10:45 GMT
#53
Most likely winners:
      Leenock: 61.04%
      viOLet: 30.90%
      Bomber: 4.64%
      Polt: 3.41%

+ Show Spoiler [Life expectancies] +
      Leenock: 11.46 rounds (top 2)
      viOLet: 11.01 rounds (top 2)
      Bomber: 9.82 rounds (top 3)
      Polt: 9.71 rounds (top 3)
      Sniper: 8.00 rounds (top 6)
      Symbol: 8.00 rounds (top 6)
      DongRaeGu: 7.00 rounds (top 8)
      Sleep: 7.00 rounds (top 8)
      BBoongBBoong: 6.00 rounds (top 12)
      Creator: 6.00 rounds (top 12)
      TheStC: 6.00 rounds (top 12)
      HerO: 6.00 rounds (top 12)
      HyuN: 5.00 rounds (top 16)
      HuK: 5.00 rounds (top 16)
      xigua: 5.00 rounds (top 16)
      Snute: 5.00 rounds (top 16)
      Squirtle: 4.00 rounds (top 24)
      YoDa: 4.00 rounds (top 24)
      Life: 4.00 rounds (top 24)
      Scarlett: 4.00 rounds (top 24)
      TaeJa: 4.00 rounds (top 24)
      Crank: 4.00 rounds (top 24)
      aLive: 4.00 rounds (top 24)
      San: 4.00 rounds (top 24)
      Sea: 3.00 rounds (top 32)
      Vortix: 3.00 rounds (top 32)
      Ryung: 3.00 rounds (top 32)
      MC: 3.00 rounds (top 32)
      sculp: 3.00 rounds (top 32)
      Bogus: 3.00 rounds (top 32)
      Seed: 3.00 rounds (top 32)
      Stephano: 3.00 rounds (top 32)
      puCK: 2.00 rounds (top 40)
      ViBE: 2.00 rounds (top 40)
      goswser: 2.00 rounds (top 40)
      Naniwa: 2.00 rounds (top 40)
      MMA: 2.00 rounds (top 40)
      Shine: 2.00 rounds (top 40)
      ToD: 2.00 rounds (top 40)
      Heart: 2.00 rounds (top 40)
      Nerchio: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      TubbyTheFat: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      Byun: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      CatZ: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      Caliber: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      HwangSin: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      GanZi: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      Golden: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      Genius: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      drewbie: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      ByuL: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      MaSsan: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      luvsic: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      LucifroN: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      Sasquatch: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      theognis: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      Shuttle: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      Glon: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      sLivko: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      Perfect: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      Apocalypse: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      Eifersuchtig: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      TriMaster: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      daisuki: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      MajOr: 0.00 rounds (top 72)

+ Show Spoiler [Placements] +
                  Top 72   Top 56   Top 40   Top 32   Top 24   Top 16   Top 12    Top 8    Top 6    Top 4    Top 3    Top 2      Win
HyuN: 100.00%
BBoongBBoong: 100.00%
Sea: 100.00%
Nerchio: 100.00%
puCK: 100.00%
Creator: 100.00%
Shuttle: 100.00%
DongRaeGu: 100.00%
TubbyTheFat: 100.00%
Byun: 100.00%
Squirtle: 100.00%
CatZ: 100.00%
YoDa: 100.00%
Sniper: 100.00%
Glon: 100.00%
TheStC: 100.00%
ViBE: 100.00%
Vortix: 100.00%
Caliber: 100.00%
Bomber: 47.18% 28.02% 20.16% 4.64%
sLivko: 100.00%
Life: 100.00%
Perfect: 100.00%
HwangSin: 100.00%
HuK: 100.00%
Leenock: 14.97% 23.99% 61.04%
Apocalypse: 100.00%
GanZi: 100.00%
goswser: 100.00%
Ryung: 100.00%
Eifersuchtig: 100.00%
Golden: 100.00%
Genius: 100.00%
Scarlett: 100.00%
drewbie: 100.00%
Naniwa: 100.00%
TriMaster: 100.00%
MC: 100.00%
daisuki: 100.00%
MMA: 100.00%
Shine: 100.00%
sculp: 100.00%
Symbol: 100.00%
ByuL: 100.00%
Bogus: 100.00%
MaSsan: 100.00%
luvsic: 100.00%
LucifroN: 100.00%
viOLet: 30.33% 38.76% 30.90%
ToD: 100.00%
Seed: 100.00%
Sasquatch: 100.00%
Heart: 100.00%
MajOr: 100.00%
Stephano: 100.00%
theognis: 100.00%
HerO: 100.00%
TaeJa: 100.00%
Polt: 52.82% 26.67% 17.09% 3.41%
Crank: 100.00%
xigua: 100.00%
Sleep: 100.00%
aLive: 100.00%
Snute: 100.00%
San: 100.00%

+ Show Spoiler [Most likely to be eliminated by...] +
          HyuN:   DongRaeGu (100.00%)
BBoongBBoong: Sleep (100.00%)
Sea: Life (100.00%)
Nerchio: Naniwa (100.00%)
puCK: BBoongBBoo (100.00%)
Creator: Bomber (100.00%)
Shuttle: Nerchio (100.00%)
DongRaeGu: Bomber (100.00%)
TubbyTheFat: Shine (100.00%)
Byun: MMA (100.00%)
Squirtle: xigua (100.00%)
CatZ: sculp (100.00%)
YoDa: HuK (100.00%)
Sniper: Polt (100.00%)
Glon: ViBE (100.00%)
TheStC: DongRaeGu (100.00%)
ViBE: Vortix (100.00%)
Vortix: DongRaeGu (100.00%)
Caliber: ToD (100.00%)
Bomber: Polt (47.18%) Leenock (25.95%) viOLet (22.23%)
sLivko: Vortix (100.00%)
Life: Snute (100.00%)
Perfect: HwangSin (100.00%)
HwangSin: Heart (100.00%)
HuK: Sniper (100.00%)
Leenock: viOLet (19.61%) Bomber (10.74%) Polt ( 8.61%)
Apocalypse: GanZi (100.00%)
GanZi: Stephano (100.00%)
goswser: HuK (100.00%)
Ryung: HuK (100.00%)
Eifersuchtig: Golden (100.00%)
Golden: BBoongBBoo (100.00%)
Genius: Sea (100.00%)
Scarlett: DongRaeGu (100.00%)
drewbie: puCK (100.00%)
Naniwa: Sea (100.00%)
TriMaster: drewbie (100.00%)
MC: Sniper (100.00%)
daisuki: MMA (100.00%)
MMA: Squirtle (100.00%)
Shine: sculp (100.00%)
sculp: Bomber (100.00%)
Symbol: Bomber (100.00%)
ByuL: Squirtle (100.00%)
Bogus: Squirtle (100.00%)
MaSsan: Sniper (100.00%)
luvsic: ViBE (100.00%)
LucifroN: Vortix (100.00%)
viOLet: Leenock (35.09%) Bomber (18.70%) Polt (15.31%)
ToD: Sniper (100.00%)
Seed: BBoongBBoo (100.00%)
Sasquatch: HuK (100.00%)
Heart: Stephano (100.00%)
MajOr: Sasquatch (100.00%)
Stephano: HyuN (100.00%)
theognis: goswser (100.00%)
HerO: Sniper (100.00%)
TaeJa: Sniper (100.00%)
Polt: Bomber (52.82%) Leenock (23.56%) viOLet (20.20%)
Crank: BBoongBBoo (100.00%)
xigua: BBoongBBoo (100.00%)
Sleep: Sniper (100.00%)
aLive: HyuN (100.00%)
Snute: Bomber (100.00%)
San: Bomber (100.00%)

+ Show Spoiler [Most likely to be sent to the losers b…] +
          HyuN:     Creator (100.00%)
BBoongBBoong: HyuN (100.00%)
Sea: BBoongBBoo (100.00%)
Nerchio: puCK (100.00%)
puCK: Creator (100.00%)
Creator: Polt (100.00%)
Shuttle: Creator (100.00%)
DongRaeGu: YoDa (100.00%)
TubbyTheFat: DongRaeGu (100.00%)
Byun: DongRaeGu (100.00%)
Squirtle: YoDa (100.00%)
CatZ: Squirtle (100.00%)
YoDa: Polt (100.00%)
Sniper: TheStC (100.00%)
Glon: Sniper (100.00%)
TheStC: Leenock (100.00%)
ViBE: TheStC (100.00%)
Vortix: Caliber (100.00%)
Caliber: Bomber (100.00%)
Bomber: TheStC (100.00%)
sLivko: Bomber (100.00%)
Life: Leenock (100.00%)
Perfect: Life (100.00%)
HwangSin: HuK (100.00%)
HuK: Life (100.00%)
Leenock: viOLet (50.78%) Bomber ( 6.63%) Polt ( 5.08%)
Apocalypse: Leenock (100.00%)
GanZi: goswser (100.00%)
goswser: Leenock (100.00%)
Ryung: Scarlett (100.00%)
Eifersuchtig: Ryung (100.00%)
Golden: Genius (100.00%)
Genius: Ryung (100.00%)
Scarlett: Sleep (100.00%)
drewbie: Scarlett (100.00%)
Naniwa: Scarlett (100.00%)
TriMaster: Naniwa (100.00%)
MC: Symbol (100.00%)
daisuki: MC (100.00%)
MMA: Shine (100.00%)
Shine: MC (100.00%)
sculp: Symbol (100.00%)
Symbol: viOLet (100.00%)
ByuL: Symbol (100.00%)
Bogus: viOLet (100.00%)
MaSsan: Bogus (100.00%)
luvsic: Bogus (100.00%)
LucifroN: viOLet (100.00%)
viOLet: Leenock (75.89%) Bomber ( 4.13%) Polt ( 3.31%)
ToD: viOLet (100.00%)
Seed: HerO (100.00%)
Sasquatch: Seed (100.00%)
Heart: Seed (100.00%)
MajOr: Heart (100.00%)
Stephano: HerO (100.00%)
theognis: Stephano (100.00%)
HerO: viOLet (100.00%)
TaeJa: Creator (100.00%)
Polt: Leenock (100.00%)
Crank: TheStC (100.00%)
xigua: Leenock (100.00%)
Sleep: Symbol (100.00%)
aLive: Symbol (100.00%)
Snute: viOLet (100.00%)
San: HerO (100.00%)


Polt vs. Bomber

Polt wins (47.16%):
      2-0: 23.14%
      2-1: 24.02%

Bomber wins (52.84%):
      2-0: 26.93%
      2-1: 25.91%

Most likely winner: Bomber (52.84%)
Median outcome: Polt 1-2 Bomber

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Leenock vs. viOLet

Leenock wins (61.40%):
      3-0: 17.69%
      3-1: 23.28%
      3-2: 20.42%

viOLet wins (38.60%):
      3-0: 8.44%
      3-1: 14.21%
      3-2: 15.96%

Most likely winner: Leenock (61.40%)
Median outcome: Leenock 3-2 viOLet

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b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
December 02 2012 10:46 GMT
#54
Leenock Bomber final would be so sick. Those two players are plain crazy!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 02 2012 10:55 GMT
#55
I'd prefer it if Polt won. I think he is probably the better TvZ player, as he is basically on a team with only Z players. And those aren't bad either.

Still think Leenock is gonna take the whole thing though.
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
December 02 2012 11:25 GMT
#56
On December 02 2012 13:52 Acronysis wrote:
I don't mean this offensively, i'm just curious. Why does everyone like Bomber so much? What's his appeal?


As already mentioned he tends to dissaspoint to a point where it has become almost funny, so you want him to do better next time. But i also think that it is because there is so few Terrans who are doing good these days, so whenever a Terran is actually doing good a lot of people will cheer for them just for being Terran. A bit like people cheer for foreigners who can beat Koreans. Last but not least he simply tends to play some very entertaining games. I am sure that a lot of people will agree that we have seen enough Infestor/Broodlord deathballs and Immortal/Sentry all-ins for a while, and that it is nice to see something different
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
December 02 2012 11:37 GMT
#57
On December 02 2012 20:25 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 13:52 Acronysis wrote:
I don't mean this offensively, i'm just curious. Why does everyone like Bomber so much? What's his appeal?


As already mentioned he tends to dissaspoint to a point where it has become almost funny, so you want him to do better next time. But i also think that it is because there is so few Terrans who are doing good these days, so whenever a Terran is actually doing good a lot of people will cheer for them just for being Terran. A bit like people cheer for foreigners who can beat Koreans. Last but not least he simply tends to play some very entertaining games. I am sure that a lot of people will agree that we have seen enough Infestor/Broodlord deathballs and Immortal/Sentry all-ins for a while, and that it is nice to see something different


I think Bomber also has a history with the foreign scene. He was one of the first korean terran to go oversea (DH Summer 2011), just few weeks after MMA and those two became the huge terran favorites of the foreign fans during a long time. Bomber also used to completely crush his opponents with shockingly superior macro, something we still see from him from time to time. That is the two main reasons why a lot of people like him today imo.
But he has proven many times that he is not very solid, he is an incredibly greedy player and therefore sometimes get completely crushed, but sometimes looks a million times better than his opponent. Not the biggest strategist, mostly an aggressive brutal macro force (I haven't seen much of his games during this tourney though)

I am more a fan of Polt personally, very good strategist, probably one of the very best multitasking among Terran players, quite aggressive with his play but always entertaining and completely capable of playing ultra late game. Go Polt ! Even though I don't think any of those two can beat Leenock.
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 11:39:02
December 02 2012 11:37 GMT
#58
On December 02 2012 13:52 Acronysis wrote:
I don't mean this offensively, i'm just curious. Why does everyone like Bomber so much? What's his appeal?


I like him because he is a macro Terran. It was the hardest playstyle in BW, and it remains the hardest playstyle in SC2.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
December 02 2012 11:51 GMT
#59
On December 02 2012 13:52 Acronysis wrote:
I don't mean this offensively, i'm just curious. Why does everyone like Bomber so much? What's his appeal?

I can only speak for myself but Bomber is one of the few terrans that's had something of a "spark" in his play the last few months. I can't really explain it other than that but I've just really enjoy watching his games which I can't really say for most other terrans atm that are playing quite uninspired.
sHt_
Profile Joined January 2011
France239 Posts
December 02 2012 11:54 GMT
#60
Since i'm somewhat of a newcomer and seen yesterday what was for me the best matches i've ever seen live since following the game (game 2 of Bomber vs DGR that is) i really want Bomber to take it all!
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