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mokumoku
Profile Joined January 2012
157 Posts
December 03 2012 06:31 GMT
#4321
Thing is viOlet has had a second chance, Leenock has not.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 03 2012 06:31 GMT
#4322
Bomber watching a ZvZ? :O
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
December 03 2012 06:31 GMT
#4323
Go Violet! Dem fangirls... XD
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minhblizzard
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
December 03 2012 06:31 GMT
#4324
the vuvuzuela horn's starting to sound like farts now..
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Hoonose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States132 Posts
December 03 2012 06:32 GMT
#4325
On December 03 2012 15:23 lichter wrote:
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On December 03 2012 15:20 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.


More unfair to leenock to go out first time he lost and not getting a second chance. Would you rather it be single elim where violent doesn't even get a 2nd chance and is just out?


I like double elimination because we get more games, but in my opinion single elimination is a better format, mostly because it is difficult to give the unbeaten player a good enough advantage in the finals without it being 'unfair' to someone. Single elim doesn't have that 'problem'. What other sports have double elim brackets anyway?


I really like MLG's new format, where the finals are always on even terms. We'll see what happens next year with the new partnership between MLG, Dreamhack and ESL.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
December 03 2012 06:32 GMT
#4326
Startale Gang
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 03 2012 06:32 GMT
#4327
On December 03 2012 15:28 vthree wrote:
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On December 03 2012 15:23 lichter wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:20 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.


More unfair to leenock to go out first time he lost and not getting a second chance. Would you rather it be single elim where violent doesn't even get a 2nd chance and is just out?


I like double elimination because we get more games, but in my opinion single elimination is a better format, mostly because it is difficult to give the unbeaten player a good enough advantage in the finals without it being 'unfair' to someone. Single elim doesn't have that 'problem'. What other sports have double elim brackets anyway?


Problem with single elimination is players will be flying over for 1 set if they lose unless there is group play. A lot of amateur sports use double elimination for this reason. It is hard to justify sponsors to give money to fly over for 1 match. In pro sports with more money involved, it is not a big issue since the cost is easily covered.


That's a good reason for tournaments with large international participation. However even if you have single or double elim, not all the games will get broadcast. No matter what, someone's getting knocked out early with no prize money, no exposure, and very unhappy sponsors
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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
December 03 2012 06:32 GMT
#4328
first world problems:
loves starcraft so much

dont ever know who to root for anymore T__T
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45382 Posts
December 03 2012 06:33 GMT
#4329
On December 03 2012 15:29 mongoose22 wrote:
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On December 03 2012 15:20 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.

If it's just a bo5 or bo7... then its not fair to the guy who has yet to lose a series/beat the other guy earlier.

Not the perfect system but some what fair.


How's that not fair? The loser's already been punished by playing at least one extra series. Normally sports brackets give you a clean slate with each new round.


Double elimination = everyone gets two lives in the tournament, regardless of how far you make it before losing the first life. Therefore, it's fair. You might not like the fact that the player who never lost plays fewer sets than the others, but that's the only advantage for winning X straight sets and getting to the final through the winner's bracket (assumed to be the harder route, albeit possibly shorter).
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 03 2012 06:34 GMT
#4330
leenock go for the kill!
rip passion
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
December 03 2012 06:35 GMT
#4331
sick defense
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 03 2012 06:35 GMT
#4332
Yuss!!!
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
December 03 2012 06:35 GMT
#4333
MASSIVE
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
December 03 2012 06:35 GMT
#4334
Wow
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 03 2012 06:35 GMT
#4335
that did nothing
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
December 03 2012 06:35 GMT
#4336
amazing defense by violet
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 03 2012 06:35 GMT
#4337
this... might me going on for a while longer I think
rip passion
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 03 2012 06:35 GMT
#4338
OWWW

WP Violet lol
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 03 2012 06:35 GMT
#4339
gg leenock lol so bad control this game
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SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
December 03 2012 06:35 GMT
#4340
OH MY GAWD
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
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