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Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
December 03 2012 06:19 GMT
#4281
Oh god not Metropolis..
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
December 03 2012 06:19 GMT
#4282
infestor count 9 to 0 is game winning according to Apollo, and every Terran and Protoss player lol
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
December 03 2012 06:20 GMT
#4283
Wasn't planning to watch.. But here I am. Go Leenock!
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6668 Posts
December 03 2012 06:20 GMT
#4284
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.

If it's just a bo5 or bo7... then its not fair to the guy who has yet to lose a series/beat the other guy earlier.

Not the perfect system but some what fair.
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Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
December 03 2012 06:20 GMT
#4285
On December 03 2012 15:04 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Take note that the LoL stream also only has 20k viewers which is crazy low for that game.

Thanks for pointing out that the rebroadcast of LOL has as many viewers as the LIVE finals of SC2
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 06:21:40
December 03 2012 06:20 GMT
#4286
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.


More unfair to leenock to go out first time he lost and not getting a second chance. Would you rather it be single elim where violent doesn't even get a 2nd chance and is just out? The guy from loser's should just thank his lucky stars that it's double elim and he even gets a 2nd chance.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
nonsequitur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
384 Posts
December 03 2012 06:20 GMT
#4287
Must be annoying as fuck for the people around the vuvuzela guy. That thing is incredibly loud.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 03 2012 06:20 GMT
#4288
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.


Several tournaments do it with double elimination.

Played more games because you got sent there and what do you know. Leenock sent him down there 3-1.

I'm not a big fan of advantages either btw but meh.
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
December 03 2012 06:22 GMT
#4289
On December 03 2012 15:20 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.

If it's just a bo5 or bo7... then its not fair to the guy who has yet to lose a series/beat the other guy earlier.

Not the perfect system but some what fair.


To be honest, I don't think there really is a "perfect" system to deal with loser bracket vs winner bracket situations, all of them have positives and negatives.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
December 03 2012 06:23 GMT
#4290
THIS FUCKING CORSAIR COMMERCIAL IS SO DAMN LOUD AND IT STARTS OFF WITH A BANG! FUCK YOU CORSAIR!!!
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 03 2012 06:23 GMT
#4291
On December 03 2012 15:20 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.


More unfair to leenock to go out first time he lost and not getting a second chance. Would you rather it be single elim where violent doesn't even get a 2nd chance and is just out?


I like double elimination because we get more games, but in my opinion single elimination is a better format, mostly because it is difficult to give the unbeaten player a good enough advantage in the finals without it being 'unfair' to someone. Single elim doesn't have that 'problem'. What other sports have double elim brackets anyway?
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RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
December 03 2012 06:23 GMT
#4292
Haha, was that Sniper? So evil. Poke. I think ZvZ is probably the most exciting match up on Metropolis despite it being boring a lot.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
December 03 2012 06:25 GMT
#4293
WTF Violet's banes hit the extractor!
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
December 03 2012 06:25 GMT
#4294
On December 03 2012 15:23 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:20 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.


More unfair to leenock to go out first time he lost and not getting a second chance. Would you rather it be single elim where violent doesn't even get a 2nd chance and is just out?


I like double elimination because we get more games, but in my opinion single elimination is a better format, mostly because it is difficult to give the unbeaten player a good enough advantage in the finals without it being 'unfair' to someone. Single elim doesn't have that 'problem'. What other sports have double elim brackets anyway?


I like double elim because it usually gets the two best from tourney at finals and avoids someone being eliminated first round due to a bad draw with two top players playing early. However, to make it fair, it does produce anti climatic finals. There's really no way around that without making it unfair to the player from winner's bracket.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
December 03 2012 06:25 GMT
#4295
On December 03 2012 15:20 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.

If it's just a bo5 or bo7... then its not fair to the guy who has yet to lose a series/beat the other guy earlier.

Not the perfect system but some what fair.


leenock hasn't lost a series of course he gets the advantage.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
December 03 2012 06:25 GMT
#4296
On December 03 2012 15:20 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:04 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Take note that the LoL stream also only has 20k viewers which is crazy low for that game.

Thanks for pointing out that the rebroadcast of LOL has as many viewers as the LIVE finals of SC2


XD. Man that LoL stream had like 150k strong consistently. Also is IPL really still going on? Damn.....
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AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
December 03 2012 06:25 GMT
#4297
On December 03 2012 15:23 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:20 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.


More unfair to leenock to go out first time he lost and not getting a second chance. Would you rather it be single elim where violent doesn't even get a 2nd chance and is just out?


I like double elimination because we get more games, but in my opinion single elimination is a better format, mostly because it is difficult to give the unbeaten player a good enough advantage in the finals without it being 'unfair' to someone. Single elim doesn't have that 'problem'. What other sports have double elim brackets anyway?

Agreed..more games is nice but single elimination is a better format in my opinion
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
December 03 2012 06:25 GMT
#4298
Holy sheeez, IPL is still going....

Hopefully hopefully after 2 events (IPL 4 & 5) they will learn that the final day has been far too drawn out. Whether at the venue itself or watching from home/barcraft/whatever, people can't stay all night on a sunday (exhausting your crowd before a grand finals, no no no no).

The final day should be the grand final and not much else.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
December 03 2012 06:25 GMT
#4299
On December 03 2012 15:23 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:20 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.


More unfair to leenock to go out first time he lost and not getting a second chance. Would you rather it be single elim where violent doesn't even get a 2nd chance and is just out?


I like double elimination because we get more games, but in my opinion single elimination is a better format, mostly because it is difficult to give the unbeaten player a good enough advantage in the finals without it being 'unfair' to someone. Single elim doesn't have that 'problem'. What other sports have double elim brackets anyway?

i like a bo9 starting at 2-0 myself
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Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 06:26:43
December 03 2012 06:25 GMT
#4300
On December 03 2012 15:20 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:04 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Take note that the LoL stream also only has 20k viewers which is crazy low for that game.

Thanks for pointing out that the rebroadcast of LOL has as many viewers as the LIVE finals of SC2

Do you even know what time it is for most time zones? Also there are two different streams. But there was just too much content this weekend. I've been out partying this weekend and I still watched more SC2 than I can handle in a weekend.
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