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Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
December 03 2012 06:26 GMT
#4301
I hope Leenock wins this fast, I want to call this a night already. I've been up for too many hours now...
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
December 03 2012 06:26 GMT
#4302
OMG The control from Violet AND Leenock!
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dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 06:27:04
December 03 2012 06:26 GMT
#4303
just how i see the final bracket

[image loading]

:D
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
December 03 2012 06:27 GMT
#4304
Wow violet
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
December 03 2012 06:27 GMT
#4305
HOW DID VIOLET SEE THAT? WTF!
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
tylerf
Profile Joined March 2012
739 Posts
December 03 2012 06:27 GMT
#4306
Go Violet.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
December 03 2012 06:27 GMT
#4307
Wow..................
o choro é livre
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 03 2012 06:27 GMT
#4308
Nicely done! Star sense!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 03 2012 06:28 GMT
#4309
desperation nydus like with Life against Stephano :p
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
December 03 2012 06:28 GMT
#4310
Nice violet
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 03 2012 06:28 GMT
#4311
this is so anti-climatic omg lol. Plz don't let the final match be like the last one
rip passion
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
December 03 2012 06:28 GMT
#4312
weird i thought he saw the spire he pulled back close overlords. idk why he didn;t make 2 spores.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 03 2012 06:28 GMT
#4313
On December 03 2012 15:23 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:20 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.


More unfair to leenock to go out first time he lost and not getting a second chance. Would you rather it be single elim where violent doesn't even get a 2nd chance and is just out?


I like double elimination because we get more games, but in my opinion single elimination is a better format, mostly because it is difficult to give the unbeaten player a good enough advantage in the finals without it being 'unfair' to someone. Single elim doesn't have that 'problem'. What other sports have double elim brackets anyway?


Problem with single elimination is players will be flying over for 1 set if they lose unless there is group play. A lot of amateur sports use double elimination for this reason. It is hard to justify sponsors to give money to fly over for 1 match. In pro sports with more money involved, it is not a big issue since the cost is easily covered.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6667 Posts
December 03 2012 06:29 GMT
#4314
Ugh please win this Leenock... I can't stay up for another bo3...
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
mongoose22
Profile Joined July 2012
174 Posts
December 03 2012 06:29 GMT
#4315
On December 03 2012 15:20 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.

If it's just a bo5 or bo7... then its not fair to the guy who has yet to lose a series/beat the other guy earlier.

Not the perfect system but some what fair.


How's that not fair? The loser's already been punished by playing at least one extra series. Normally sports brackets give you a clean slate with each new round.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
December 03 2012 06:30 GMT
#4316
On December 03 2012 15:26 dNa wrote:
just how i see the final bracket

[image loading]

:D


-_- sad but true. I closed the stream hours ago, only to find out it was still going on out of curiosity of who had finally won.

ZvZ uggg
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 03 2012 06:30 GMT
#4317
On December 03 2012 15:25 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:23 lichter wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:20 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.


More unfair to leenock to go out first time he lost and not getting a second chance. Would you rather it be single elim where violent doesn't even get a 2nd chance and is just out?


I like double elimination because we get more games, but in my opinion single elimination is a better format, mostly because it is difficult to give the unbeaten player a good enough advantage in the finals without it being 'unfair' to someone. Single elim doesn't have that 'problem'. What other sports have double elim brackets anyway?


I like double elim because it usually gets the two best from tourney at finals and avoids someone being eliminated first round due to a bad draw with two top players playing early. However, to make it fair, it does produce anti climatic finals. There's really no way around that without making it unfair to the player from winner's bracket.


One bad draw, two bad draws, what's the difference?... champions shouldn't care about draws. Is what some people would say.

opty's Bo9 starting 2-0 sounds good though. Might be too long a series though.
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
December 03 2012 06:30 GMT
#4318
Wat a second BO3?!?!
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Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
December 03 2012 06:31 GMT
#4319
On December 03 2012 15:29 mongoose22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:20 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.

If it's just a bo5 or bo7... then its not fair to the guy who has yet to lose a series/beat the other guy earlier.

Not the perfect system but some what fair.


How's that not fair? The loser's already been punished by playing at least one extra series. Normally sports brackets give you a clean slate with each new round.


Playing more games is not a clear cut disadvantage for losing once. Let's say you lost to a guy in the Winner final, then proceed to bop the player coming from loser bracket in 10 minutes (because you are the second best) then it's hardly fair for the player who never lost at all.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 03 2012 06:31 GMT
#4320
On December 03 2012 15:29 mongoose22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 15:20 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 03 2012 15:19 mongoose22 wrote:
Why is the format best of 5 and then best of 3? Seems horribly unfair for the guy coming out of the loser's bracket, who's already played more games.

If it's just a bo5 or bo7... then its not fair to the guy who has yet to lose a series/beat the other guy earlier.

Not the perfect system but some what fair.


How's that not fair? The loser's already been punished by playing at least one extra series. Normally sports brackets give you a clean slate with each new round.


But is the punishment enough? Let say the top 2 players are heads and shoulders above everyone else? Then it is not fair that the first match is essentially meaningless.
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