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Ladies and gentlemen, it is page 143 and any patchzerg, balance related commentary and the usual bashing etc from this point on will be met with harsh moderation.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
November 30 2012 18:35 GMT
#281
Crank completely murdered. Why did he fight at that position....
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
November 30 2012 18:35 GMT
#282
On December 01 2012 03:33 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:32 opterown wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:31 Kasaraki wrote:
It's like Alive hasn't improved since his prime. Like somehow he stopped training as hard as he used to.

he's gotten worse

I'd say other people realised "This guy can't micro, let's play safe and wait for him to A move to his death"

He had sick mech TvT since it allowed him to emphasis his greatest strengths his strategies and understanding but when the time comes to control he's hopeless.


Well, I don't know the guy enough to comment on his micro, but if you're right about his lack of control/micro, I'm OK with him paying the price.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 30 2012 18:36 GMT
#283
I laugh when casters think Antiga is some terran heaven. It's Mvp Shipyard, not Terran Shipyard. It's just Mvp who somehow has strange power on that map, his marines get 150% stronger, but really terrans in general aren't in love with Antiga since forever, especially without the gold bases.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 18:37:05
November 30 2012 18:36 GMT
#284
On December 01 2012 03:36 Kasaraki wrote:
I laugh when casters think Antiga is some terran heaven. It's Mvp Shipyard, not Terran Shipyard. It's just Mvp who somehow has strange power on that map, his marines get 150% stronger, but really terrans in general aren't in love with Antiga since forever, especially without the gold bases.

it's actually supernova shipyard, he has the best record on that map out of any player. 16-3
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 30 2012 18:36 GMT
#285
On December 01 2012 03:35 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:33 Fusilero wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:32 opterown wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:31 Kasaraki wrote:
It's like Alive hasn't improved since his prime. Like somehow he stopped training as hard as he used to.

he's gotten worse

I'd say other people realised "This guy can't micro, let's play safe and wait for him to A move to his death"

He had sick mech TvT since it allowed him to emphasis his greatest strengths his strategies and understanding but when the time comes to control he's hopeless.


Well, I don't know the guy enough to comment on his micro, but if you're right about his lack of control/micro, I'm OK with him paying the price.

He just seems to be very liberal with leads, when he thinks he's got a great position he suddenly stops controlling his units and simply starts slamming terran units until he wins it's what often appears to be his downfall in TvZ.
Glorious SEA doto
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
November 30 2012 18:37 GMT
#286
twitch massively lagging here
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 30 2012 18:37 GMT
#287
On December 01 2012 03:36 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:36 Kasaraki wrote:
I laugh when casters think Antiga is some terran heaven. It's Mvp Shipyard, not Terran Shipyard. It's just Mvp who somehow has strange power on that map, his marines get 150% stronger, but really terrans in general aren't in love with Antiga since forever, especially without the gold bases.

it's actually supernova shipyard, he has the best record on that map out of any player


Oh, that's actually quite interesting.
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
November 30 2012 18:37 GMT
#288
Streams are all unwatchably laggy for me... It was like that yesterday too in the first hour or two, then the rest was fine.

At least 480p works somehow.
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
November 30 2012 18:38 GMT
#289
5 foreigners remains...all in the loser bracket.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
November 30 2012 18:38 GMT
#290
Grubby casting TvZ?
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
November 30 2012 18:38 GMT
#291
Slow down there TB, Leenock for example started the building blocking incredibly early, but in general that was a thing that started even early in the blue flame Hellion timeline.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 30 2012 18:38 GMT
#292
On December 01 2012 03:38 vinsang1000 wrote:
5 foreigners remains...all in the loser bracket.

surprised? this is like the most stacked foreign tourney of all time
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
November 30 2012 18:39 GMT
#293
On December 01 2012 03:36 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:36 Kasaraki wrote:
I laugh when casters think Antiga is some terran heaven. It's Mvp Shipyard, not Terran Shipyard. It's just Mvp who somehow has strange power on that map, his marines get 150% stronger, but really terrans in general aren't in love with Antiga since forever, especially without the gold bases.

it's actually supernova shipyard, he has the best record on that map out of any player. 16-3


Wasn't shakura's plateau MVP's best map for a long time? I kinda miss that map sometimes.
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 18:40:19
November 30 2012 18:40 GMT
#294
On December 01 2012 03:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
also if anyone even dare suggest that Symbol won that because of "winfestors" I'll be very annoyed >.>

alive played that really terrible


yeah man, symbol was behind all game and totally won because of his uuh sick micro and err great strategy planning.

zerg maphacks and imba AOE had nothing to do with it, honest

In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
November 30 2012 18:40 GMT
#295
On December 01 2012 03:39 ladyumbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:36 opterown wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:36 Kasaraki wrote:
I laugh when casters think Antiga is some terran heaven. It's Mvp Shipyard, not Terran Shipyard. It's just Mvp who somehow has strange power on that map, his marines get 150% stronger, but really terrans in general aren't in love with Antiga since forever, especially without the gold bases.

it's actually supernova shipyard, he has the best record on that map out of any player. 16-3


Wasn't shakura's plateau MVP's best map for a long time? I kinda miss that map sometimes.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/447_Shakuras_Plateau_2.0/player_stats
mvp is 8-1 on that map, best record on it yeah
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 30 2012 18:40 GMT
#296
On December 01 2012 03:38 Nirel wrote:
Grubby casting TvZ?


Yes they believe that having Grubby cast TvZ and Sheth cast TvP is the best use of their game knowledge ><
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
November 30 2012 18:40 GMT
#297
On December 01 2012 03:40 SKYFISH_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
also if anyone even dare suggest that Symbol won that because of "winfestors" I'll be very annoyed >.>

alive played that really terrible


yeah man, symbol was behind all game and totally won because of his uuh sick micro and err great strategy planning.

zerg maphacks and imba AOE had nothing to do with it, honest


nah alive is just bad haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 30 2012 18:41 GMT
#298
On December 01 2012 03:40 SKYFISH_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
also if anyone even dare suggest that Symbol won that because of "winfestors" I'll be very annoyed >.>

alive played that really terrible


yeah man, symbol was behind all game and totally won because of his uuh sick micro and err great strategy planning.

zerg maphacks and imba AOE had nothing to do with it, honest


What about alive putting his entire army in a corner or his complete lack of micro?
Glorious SEA doto
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
November 30 2012 18:41 GMT
#299
I hope they show bogus vs squirtle.
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
November 30 2012 18:41 GMT
#300
On December 01 2012 03:37 jnd wrote:
Streams are all unwatchably laggy for me... It was like that yesterday too in the first hour or two, then the rest was fine.

At least 480p works somehow.


Same here. Just reset my net thinking it was my end. Last night I had all the streams up on 720p lag free. Now not even one on 360p is smooth. Definitely something up on twitch's end or at the venue. Just not enough bandwidth is getting through.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
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