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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 21:47:00
November 22 2012 21:45 GMT
#2601
HerO should let Ret win this game since he's already through

Edit: Apparently I'm late to the party, lolol.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 22 2012 21:45 GMT
#2602
Man, it would be so sweet if TargA could take the next game off TLO.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
November 22 2012 21:45 GMT
#2603
Haha, apollo.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Flummie
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands417 Posts
November 22 2012 21:45 GMT
#2604
That last game looked staged to me as well. Just my few cents. her0 is way better than that.
ผมพยายามหาคำตอบอยู่ตลอดเวลา
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
November 22 2012 21:45 GMT
#2605
HerO making a pentagram with his probe?
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
November 22 2012 21:45 GMT
#2606
You can't be as good as Hero and do such mistakes, you just can't. Build made no sense, he saw the lings and still pushed, he "forgot" his warp prism far from his army, he went for a drop and of all things targeted the macro hatch (like seriously everything else is better in this situation), and finally expanded in the face of mass roach ling as well as not putting forcefields down for like 10 seconds?!

Wtf??
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
November 22 2012 21:46 GMT
#2607
On November 23 2012 06:45 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:43 dcemuser wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 Mohdoo wrote:
iNcontrol being ridiculously unprofessional. Everyone saw it, everyone knows it. Being the official caster and saying it is insanely unprofessional.


He didn't say it, lol.


You're right, he did his typical iNcontrol side stepping to imply it as heavily as possible without saying it. He said it. Its not a matter of technicality. He conveyed the thought that he believes Hero threw the game.


"oh no"

What's the big deal?
Roybs
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 21:46:43
November 22 2012 21:46 GMT
#2608
Haha sure sure I'll do G3

Game 3 (P)HerO vs (Z)Ret on Daybreak
Hero bottom left, Ret top right.
0:00

Forge first for HerO
Pool first for Ret, 15 hatch for Ret
3rd hatchttp://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/layout/sb_expand.pngh for Ret.
Kikiwoelmuis <3
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
November 22 2012 21:46 GMT
#2609
On November 23 2012 06:45 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:43 Mohdoo wrote:
iNcontrol being ridiculously unprofessional. Everyone saw it, everyone knows it. Being the official caster and saying it is insanely unprofessional.

he didnt say it, he simply implied/hinted towards it.

just tuned in, context please
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
November 22 2012 21:46 GMT
#2610
On November 23 2012 06:46 OKMarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:45 Mohdoo wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 dcemuser wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 Mohdoo wrote:
iNcontrol being ridiculously unprofessional. Everyone saw it, everyone knows it. Being the official caster and saying it is insanely unprofessional.


He didn't say it, lol.


You're right, he did his typical iNcontrol side stepping to imply it as heavily as possible without saying it. He said it. Its not a matter of technicality. He conveyed the thought that he believes Hero threw the game.


"oh no"

What's the big deal?

Only reason people give a shit is because it's incontrol who said it
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
November 22 2012 21:46 GMT
#2611
On November 23 2012 06:45 Alryk wrote:
HerO should let Ret win this game since he's already through

Both are Liquid and Hero is through. If Ret wins I can BET you that the conspiracy theories are gonna stream in.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
November 22 2012 21:46 GMT
#2612
On November 23 2012 06:45 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:43 Dali. wrote:
I'd just like to point out that Hero is already advanced, Ret is 1-1, if he wins this he is far more likely to move on. I love both these guys, but circumstantial evidence is definitely pointing toward something.


Ret needs this series badly or gamble the next one to advance. I fucking hope hero stop messing around and just wins. If you can't fucking win, it's your problem, not your teammates to fix it.


The sad thing is even if Ret wins in a totally uncontroversial fashion, this is still very suspicious. I just don't know anymore
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#2613
On November 23 2012 06:45 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:43 dcemuser wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 Mohdoo wrote:
iNcontrol being ridiculously unprofessional. Everyone saw it, everyone knows it. Being the official caster and saying it is insanely unprofessional.


He didn't say it, lol.


You're right, he did his typical iNcontrol side stepping to imply it as heavily as possible without saying it. He said it. Its not a matter of technicality. He conveyed the thought that he believes Hero threw the game.

I actually didn't know that was what he was hinting at until I tabbed over to this thread and read it, which is why I brought up the fact that he didn't say it.
Ender2701
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States581 Posts
November 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#2614
This is why you should do what the GSL does and always have all the teamkills played first, then these situations don't happen.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
November 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#2615
On November 23 2012 06:46 XiGua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:45 Alryk wrote:
HerO should let Ret win this game since he's already through

Both are Liquid and Hero is through. If Ret wins I can BET you that the conspiracy theories are gonna stream in.

It would not be a theory.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#2616
I don't think it's matchfixing. I think HerO just "did Ret a favor" because he wanted to. I still don't like it
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
November 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#2617
On November 23 2012 06:45 Entirety wrote:
That was just weird. Either HerO was just in a fucked up state of mind... or he threw that game to Ret.

Honestly, I don't think HerO was trying to throw that game. I just think that HerO wasn't trying his utmost best. He was playing the game, but when he saw that he had a possibility of losing, he did not fight to stay alive. Instead, he sort of let it happen.

That's not exactly throwing the game, but I definitely don't think HerO was trying his best.


Ofc thats throwing a game?
crack
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
November 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#2618
On November 23 2012 06:44 Otolia wrote:
Apparently Feast won 3:0 against harsteam. So he is the first person who advances into the group stage.

Feast for great JUSTICE!
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#2619
On November 23 2012 06:46 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:46 OKMarius wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:45 Mohdoo wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 dcemuser wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 Mohdoo wrote:
iNcontrol being ridiculously unprofessional. Everyone saw it, everyone knows it. Being the official caster and saying it is insanely unprofessional.


He didn't say it, lol.


You're right, he did his typical iNcontrol side stepping to imply it as heavily as possible without saying it. He said it. Its not a matter of technicality. He conveyed the thought that he believes Hero threw the game.


"oh no"

What's the big deal?

Only reason people give a shit is because it's incontrol who said it

i feel so as well, so much hate towards this person, you haters are ridiculous. theres no big deal about telling the truth. such a ridiculous discussion
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
November 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#2620
On November 23 2012 06:45 NeonFox wrote:
You can't be as good as Hero and do such mistakes, you just can't. Build made no sense, he saw the lings and still pushed, he "forgot" his warp prism far from his army, he went for a drop and of all things targeted the macro hatch (like seriously everything else is better in this situation), and finally expanded in the face of mass roach ling as well as not putting forcefields down for like 10 seconds?!

Wtf??


He also didn't build units. Floating over 700 gas during the first push, floating over 1k gas at the end of the game.
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