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budar
Profile Joined February 2011
175 Posts
November 18 2012 10:43 GMT
#6781
On November 18 2012 19:41 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 19:40 Poopi wrote:
The strategy aspect of SC2 (dunno about BW) is highly overestimated so yeah really, being a good chess player won't help you much.

developing build orders would get a nice boost


God, this chess comparison... :D A pretty much equivalent question is if a professional table-tennis player would have an advantage in becoming a professional football player. And no, developing build orders would definitely not get a nice boost :D.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 18 2012 10:43 GMT
#6782
On November 18 2012 19:42 Djin)ftw( wrote:
SNORE

so partings allin failed, gotta wait another 10 minutes until game is over. awesome

Too true lol. PvP ends in first 8 minutes even when it doesn't :D
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17741 Posts
November 18 2012 10:44 GMT
#6783
On November 18 2012 19:42 sHt_ wrote:
About the n°1 rank and all, except you wanna remake all the tournaments in the world of any kind of sport or anything, you gonna have to stick with it...

When you win the world cup at football, you can lose your next 10 matches, you will still be n1 in the world, because you won something called " tournament for the n1 rank spot of the world", why does it have to be so much different for sc2?

The thing is called WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL after all..

because we actually like to evalute players' skill and predict future matches rather than just buy into the marketing BS of the tournament?
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13004 Posts
November 18 2012 10:44 GMT
#6784
On November 18 2012 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 19:40 Poopi wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:37 Xoronius wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:34 Die4Ever wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:32 GolemMadness wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:29 Poopi wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:20 Xoronius wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:17 Incanus wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:16 Wildmoon wrote:
[quote]

Eventhough this is the world championship but the person who win it doesn't have to be the best player overall.

Clearly the best player overall is Flash.


In this gsme ofc. Otherwise the best player overall would be Kasparov.


Honestly I would love to see what a very high ranking chess player (not necessarily top 20 in the world) can do in Brood War provided that he trains 8 hrs a day and gets his mechanics really strong.

Too bad that is infinitely less feasible now with the Korean Pro scene dying. ;_;

They could not do anything because they are too old for that. Hands too slow.


Three of the top 10 rated players in the world are 22 or younger.

you know who would be better at SC2 than a top 10 chess player? a top 10 SC2 player


How surprising. The question is, whether it is easier to become a good SC2 player, due having the tactical and strategical strengh, you gain through being a top chess player.

The strategy aspect of SC2 (dunno about BW) is highly overestimated so yeah really, being a good chess player won't help you much.


I specifically mentioned Brood War exactly because of this. 1A-ing not really an interesting concept for a chess player to understand, with regards to SC2. And I'll stop here hehe

Well if BW is figured out chess won't help either. And I guess a chess player would not want to play a game with 3 races because of the balance problems which comes with it.
WriterMaru
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 10:44:59
November 18 2012 10:44 GMT
#6785
On November 18 2012 19:43 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:40 Poopi wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:37 Xoronius wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:34 Die4Ever wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:32 GolemMadness wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:29 Poopi wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:20 Xoronius wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:17 Incanus wrote:
[quote]
Clearly the best player overall is Flash.


In this gsme ofc. Otherwise the best player overall would be Kasparov.


Honestly I would love to see what a very high ranking chess player (not necessarily top 20 in the world) can do in Brood War provided that he trains 8 hrs a day and gets his mechanics really strong.

Too bad that is infinitely less feasible now with the Korean Pro scene dying. ;_;

They could not do anything because they are too old for that. Hands too slow.


Three of the top 10 rated players in the world are 22 or younger.

you know who would be better at SC2 than a top 10 chess player? a top 10 SC2 player


How surprising. The question is, whether it is easier to become a good SC2 player, due having the tactical and strategical strengh, you gain through being a top chess player.

The strategy aspect of SC2 (dunno about BW) is highly overestimated so yeah really, being a good chess player won't help you much.


I specifically mentioned Brood War exactly because of this. 1A-ing not really an interesting concept for a chess player to understand, with regards to SC2. And I'll stop here hehe


3-4 A-ing in BW.


I guess the reason I started the Chess into SC discussion is because I miss someone truly cerebral and strategically brilliant like sAviOr. :-<
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
November 18 2012 10:45 GMT
#6786
Creator is just so methodical
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
November 18 2012 10:45 GMT
#6787
PARTIIIIING! I just want a ceremony )
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
November 18 2012 10:45 GMT
#6788
I feel sad since the production team doesn't know what a proper foreign stream looks like, if you are here in person, you will be amazed by how awesome the venue and production is.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
November 18 2012 10:45 GMT
#6789
Creator is in the lead but also has a few less probes. And over time this will balance out the disadvantage Parting currently has.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
November 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#6790
This is nothing like blizzcon man...
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#6791
Creator switching over to immortal production, good job
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17741 Posts
November 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#6792
On November 18 2012 19:45 digmouse wrote:
I feel sad since the production team doesn't know what a proper foreign stream looks like, if you are here in person, you will be amazed by how awesome the venue and production is.

did they have cool player intros for the finals? with smoke and lasers and shit?
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pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
November 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#6793
haha when did tasteless start saying "sure" so much?
EG-TL!
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
November 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#6794
On November 18 2012 19:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 19:43 Wildmoon wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:40 Poopi wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:37 Xoronius wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:34 Die4Ever wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:32 GolemMadness wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:29 Poopi wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:20 Xoronius wrote:
[quote]

In this gsme ofc. Otherwise the best player overall would be Kasparov.


Honestly I would love to see what a very high ranking chess player (not necessarily top 20 in the world) can do in Brood War provided that he trains 8 hrs a day and gets his mechanics really strong.

Too bad that is infinitely less feasible now with the Korean Pro scene dying. ;_;

They could not do anything because they are too old for that. Hands too slow.


Three of the top 10 rated players in the world are 22 or younger.

you know who would be better at SC2 than a top 10 chess player? a top 10 SC2 player


How surprising. The question is, whether it is easier to become a good SC2 player, due having the tactical and strategical strengh, you gain through being a top chess player.

The strategy aspect of SC2 (dunno about BW) is highly overestimated so yeah really, being a good chess player won't help you much.


I specifically mentioned Brood War exactly because of this. 1A-ing not really an interesting concept for a chess player to understand, with regards to SC2. And I'll stop here hehe


3-4 A-ing in BW.


I guess the reason I started the Chess into SC discussion is because I miss someone truly cerebral and strategically brilliant like sAviOr. :-<


You mean strategically fixing his matches? lol sorry can't resist.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#6795
laser wars inc
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#6796
Build moar lazers!!!
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#6797
On November 18 2012 19:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 19:43 Wildmoon wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:40 Poopi wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:37 Xoronius wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:34 Die4Ever wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:32 GolemMadness wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:29 Poopi wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:20 Xoronius wrote:
[quote]

In this gsme ofc. Otherwise the best player overall would be Kasparov.


Honestly I would love to see what a very high ranking chess player (not necessarily top 20 in the world) can do in Brood War provided that he trains 8 hrs a day and gets his mechanics really strong.

Too bad that is infinitely less feasible now with the Korean Pro scene dying. ;_;

They could not do anything because they are too old for that. Hands too slow.


Three of the top 10 rated players in the world are 22 or younger.

you know who would be better at SC2 than a top 10 chess player? a top 10 SC2 player


How surprising. The question is, whether it is easier to become a good SC2 player, due having the tactical and strategical strengh, you gain through being a top chess player.

The strategy aspect of SC2 (dunno about BW) is highly overestimated so yeah really, being a good chess player won't help you much.


I specifically mentioned Brood War exactly because of this. 1A-ing not really an interesting concept for a chess player to understand, with regards to SC2. And I'll stop here hehe


3-4 A-ing in BW.


I guess the reason I started the Chess into SC discussion is because I miss someone truly cerebral and strategically brilliant like sAviOr. :-<


Chess itself won't help you strategically in anything other than chess. The closest thing you could say is that they maybe could have potential do to being naturally strategically minded.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17741 Posts
November 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#6798
On November 18 2012 19:46 pt wrote:
haha when did tasteless start saying "sure" so much?

like 2 or 3 weeks ago I think
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10154 Posts
November 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#6799
On November 18 2012 19:43 budar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 19:41 opterown wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:40 Poopi wrote:
The strategy aspect of SC2 (dunno about BW) is highly overestimated so yeah really, being a good chess player won't help you much.

developing build orders would get a nice boost


God, this chess comparison... :D A pretty much equivalent question is if a professional table-tennis player would have an advantage in becoming a professional football player. And no, developing build orders would definitely not get a nice boost :D.


Being good at tennis make you good at ping pong ? (BW vs SC2 comparison :OO)
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13004 Posts
November 18 2012 10:47 GMT
#6800
On November 18 2012 19:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 19:43 Wildmoon wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:40 Poopi wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:37 Xoronius wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:34 Die4Ever wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:32 GolemMadness wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:29 Poopi wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On November 18 2012 19:20 Xoronius wrote:
[quote]

In this gsme ofc. Otherwise the best player overall would be Kasparov.


Honestly I would love to see what a very high ranking chess player (not necessarily top 20 in the world) can do in Brood War provided that he trains 8 hrs a day and gets his mechanics really strong.

Too bad that is infinitely less feasible now with the Korean Pro scene dying. ;_;

They could not do anything because they are too old for that. Hands too slow.


Three of the top 10 rated players in the world are 22 or younger.

you know who would be better at SC2 than a top 10 chess player? a top 10 SC2 player


How surprising. The question is, whether it is easier to become a good SC2 player, due having the tactical and strategical strengh, you gain through being a top chess player.

The strategy aspect of SC2 (dunno about BW) is highly overestimated so yeah really, being a good chess player won't help you much.


I specifically mentioned Brood War exactly because of this. 1A-ing not really an interesting concept for a chess player to understand, with regards to SC2. And I'll stop here hehe


3-4 A-ing in BW.


I guess the reason I started the Chess into SC discussion is because I miss someone truly cerebral and strategically brilliant like sAviOr. :-<

Yeah this god in the battlefield thread made me want to see sAviOr in starcaft 2. Since I didn't play nor follow BW I don't hate him for what he did, unfortunately he is banned everywhere.
WriterMaru
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