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On November 18 2012 17:02 Blix wrote:
think rain watched these and will do same?
oh god that wonwonwon will haunt Sen`s soul forever.
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On November 18 2012 17:02 Woizit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:55 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:53 Woizit wrote:On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:On November 18 2012 16:41 Wildmoon wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote:
this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions No sport has stable champion. Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S... Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S.... Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4 Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S MVP wins pretty much everything else no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. It won't be possible for a bonjwa to rise in the scene as it is now. Unless you manage to support the entire pro scene to fly around to every single tournament around, there will always be so and so won this other big tournament when one person is dominating somewhere. That doesn't matter. If someone consistently wins/places very high in top tournaments like GSL and MLG, it doesn't matter if someone else is winning some other tournament occasionally. Nope. A bonjwa will be judged by how he crush his competition. How will you do that when a large portion of the supposed competition is elsewhere in the world?
Just remember this would be impossible even in BW then if BW had as many tournaments as SC2 did. People seem to forget that while there were dominant players in BW (jaedong/flash/nada/etc), they played in "only" 2 tournaments MSL/OSL and didn't have to travel and they had a week minimum to prepare for their opponents.
In sc2 most tournaments (excluding gsl/osl) are done in a weekend.
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On November 18 2012 17:02 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:59 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:55 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:53 Woizit wrote:On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:On November 18 2012 16:41 Wildmoon wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote:
this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions No sport has stable champion. Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S... Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S.... Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4 Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S MVP wins pretty much everything else no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. It won't be possible for a bonjwa to rise in the scene as it is now. Unless you manage to support the entire pro scene to fly around to every single tournament around, there will always be so and so won this other big tournament when one person is dominating somewhere. That doesn't matter. If someone consistently wins/places very high in top tournaments like GSL and MLG, it doesn't matter if someone else is winning some other tournament occasionally. SC1 is just such a small society that makes bonjwa possible. community like SC2 is so big that no one can dominate like SC1, not now, not ever. We will only have consistent good player, like MVP in the past years, this will be the closest thing to a bonjwa Koreans are the best in the world. More Koreans played Brood War. Foreigners don't come into the equation that much. What you say makes no sense.
Agreed. The same players (for the most part, minus a few new comers) that are top in everything are the same people that played BW competitively before. Only difference there isn't Flash owning everything up... yet.
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On November 18 2012 17:03 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
I dunno but for some twisted reasons I'd actually like to see Rain doing 3 successful Immortal All-Ins in a row as well :d
Forgive me Sen and Zerg brethren!
oh man i don't want to know anything about your fetishes!
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On November 18 2012 17:02 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:01 Hopelessnoob wrote:On November 18 2012 17:00 AgentW wrote:
Day[9] seems almost gleeful for cursing Sen for eternity. He must be a powerful wizard. well in defence, sen called day9 noobie right? i don't blame him. You caster, you noobie, you no know how to play! I kid, but you noobie. *shoulder buckle*
im joking, not really you noobie XD
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United States97277 Posts
who is ready to flip some coins for $60,000?
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I think I wanna see Parting take the whole thing now.
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Too many tears, too less soul you ZERGS
Now its time to enjoy some WonWonWon instead of GGlord Winfestor games, how does it feel?
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On November 18 2012 17:01 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:59 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
blizzard balance logic:
protoss totally overpowered in midgame - but if they decide to go for macro games they lose to broodlor infestor
this way it makes up for a 50% balance and thats fine right? Sadly David Kim said that was fine because it was "asymmetric". Bad excuse because that type of gameplay is bad (even Artosis and Idra agreed on their "Imbalanced" show).
When was the most recent "imbalance" episode?
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On November 18 2012 17:03 Hopelessnoob wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:02 AgentW wrote:On November 18 2012 17:01 Hopelessnoob wrote:On November 18 2012 17:00 AgentW wrote:
Day[9] seems almost gleeful for cursing Sen for eternity. He must be a powerful wizard. well in defence, sen called day9 noobie right? i don't blame him. You caster, you noobie, you no know how to play! I kid, but you noobie. *shoulder buckle* im joking, not really you noobie XD
That jerk. I hope he gets third every tournament. :D
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On November 18 2012 17:02 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:59 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:55 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:53 Woizit wrote:On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:On November 18 2012 16:41 Wildmoon wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote:
this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions No sport has stable champion. Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S... Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S.... Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4 Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S MVP wins pretty much everything else no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. It won't be possible for a bonjwa to rise in the scene as it is now. Unless you manage to support the entire pro scene to fly around to every single tournament around, there will always be so and so won this other big tournament when one person is dominating somewhere. That doesn't matter. If someone consistently wins/places very high in top tournaments like GSL and MLG, it doesn't matter if someone else is winning some other tournament occasionally. SC1 is just such a small society that makes bonjwa possible. community like SC2 is so big that no one can dominate like SC1, not now, not ever. We will only have consistent good player, like MVP in the past years, this will be the closest thing to a bonjwa Koreans are the best in the world. More Koreans played Brood War. Foreigners don't come into the equation that much. What you say makes no sense.
Actually He is pretty uninformed, lol
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Oh god that production company, not even cutting videos at the right moments :s
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United States97277 Posts
Terran only makes an appearance this late in the tournament in carbot videos
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On November 18 2012 17:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
who is ready to flip some coins for $60,000?
Probably Phil Ivey, Tom Dwan, Ziigmund etc
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Sen for 3rd, Creator for 2nd and Parting 1st plz.
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oh god I just want Rain to go crazy and WONWONWON 3 games in a row against Sen now oh god please tell Rain to go WONWONWON
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On November 18 2012 17:03 Elite_ wrote:Looks like the soul train can't be derailed here. Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:01 Fearest wrote:
whoa whoa whoa.. the FINAL MATCH is today?? I thought all weekend tournaments are run over 3 days. Like half way through the year dreamhack/wcs events changed to 2 days... lol
Has pros and cons. Today i felt the cons very much. Even one semi finals wasn't highlighted at all. Was only on a side stream without any pictures of the players. Also following 4 streams was pretty hard, but doable if you don't care about every match.
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Lol @ that zergling or whatever it was licking the force field.
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That balloon Overlord never gets old.
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Load from replay in HOTS is going to be a serious game changer. Pros are going to be able to practice scenarios like that from the moment Sen scouts the Robo until the all-in is done. Over and over and over, until they get so good at it that it'll be second nature. And they'll be able to do that for any common scenario you can imagine, or anything that develops in the metagame.
I think that feature alone will make the metagame evolve 10x faster than it is now.
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