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On November 13 2012 20:30 TheBB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 20:28 Noispaxen wrote:On November 13 2012 20:25 ThePlayer33 wrote: TO ALL ZERGS:
this is what happens if you dont go straight for infestors -> broodlords So basicly you are saying zerg is underpowered without infestor/broodlords? Reading these forums/reddit became real pain recently, no matter how the zerg plays, no matter if he wins or loses, at least 50% of comments are about balance, stop it... Zerg should get a new unit called "discord." When an infestor fungals or a broodlord attacks while a discord is near, the opponent's units start discussing balance instead of fighting.
That already happens, after he loses his whole army.
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On November 13 2012 20:32 ThePlayer33 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 20:30 andaylin wrote:On November 13 2012 20:30 ThePlayer33 wrote:On November 13 2012 20:28 Noispaxen wrote:On November 13 2012 20:25 ThePlayer33 wrote: TO ALL ZERGS:
this is what happens if you dont go straight for infestors -> broodlords So basicly you are saying zerg is underpowered without infestor/broodlords? Reading these forums/reddit became real pain recently, no matter how the zerg plays, no matter if he wins or loses, at least 50% of comments are about balance, stop it... NOPE. but infestors-> broodlord is much easier win give his economic advantage. Hyun is no Life. What economic advantage. Watch the games, please. He was behind on income practically all game. after Hellion drop. Nope, Hyun could have been, but he decided to commit to mass lings to try and kill MKP.
Ended up not working with only 30 drones to 28 scvs + 3CC.
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Have to leave now..
Gogo Yoda!
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gosh, MKP fanboys are still the most annoying, lol
will he become best player in the universe again, if he wins GSL?
well no way, he will beat Life, or even Leenock tho
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On November 13 2012 20:31 sitromit wrote: So people always hate on deathball turtle style play. MKP completely failed his initial harass, didn't do any damage. Then gave up and turtled and built a deathball. Meanwhile Hyun kept harassing, and killed a ton of SCVs, delayed tech structures, sniped add ons, killed a lot of Siege Tanks to delay the push.
But in the end, all that harass he did cost him the game, because it also delayed his Broodlords, and MKP just moved out and rolled him. If instead of all that active play Hyun had just turtled and built Broodlords himself, he could have won. If he did that though, everyone would whine about Infestor/Broodlord turtle patch Zerg OMG OP!
Actually I think the muta harass didn't do nearly enough. Yes he delayed add ons but he hadn't killed many scvs, and the actual harassment was quite well shut down by vikings. On the other hand MKP macroed up hard on 4 ccs and Hyun never got the critical drone count. He was too quick on trying to slap down MKP but MKP held the harass really well and didn't lose a lot at all
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On November 13 2012 20:31 sitromit wrote: So people always hate on deathball turtle style play. MKP completely failed his initial harass, didn't do any damage. Then gave up and turtled and built a deathball. Meanwhile Hyun kept harassing, and killed a ton of SCVs, delayed tech structures, sniped add ons, killed a lot of Siege Tanks to delay the push.
But in the end, all that harass he did cost him the game, because it also delayed his Broodlords, and MKP just moved out and rolled him. If instead of all that active play Hyun had just turtled and built Broodlords himself, he could have won. If he did that though, everyone would whine about Infestor/Broodlord turtle patch Zerg OMG OP!
The harass itself from MKP was a fail but his build made Hyun stay on a very low drone count, so damage was done without really killing anything.
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Anyhow HyuN is still way better than MKP and he is good enough to get out of the group.
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On November 13 2012 20:32 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 20:30 ThePlayer33 wrote:On November 13 2012 20:28 Noispaxen wrote:On November 13 2012 20:25 ThePlayer33 wrote: TO ALL ZERGS:
this is what happens if you dont go straight for infestors -> broodlords So basicly you are saying zerg is underpowered without infestor/broodlords? Reading these forums/reddit became real pain recently, no matter how the zerg plays, no matter if he wins or loses, at least 50% of comments are about balance, stop it... NOPE. but infestors-> broodlord is much easier win give his economic advantage. Hyun is no Life. economic advantage? What game have you watched? MKP defended all aggression, with minimal investments while expanding rapidly vs a tech (muta) and armyheavy (roach/ling) style. Story of the game: defender holds, defender wins.
right after hellion drop, Hyun couldve took 3rd and saturated, except he decided to make 20 lings and attack a player with 6 hellions and reactored factory
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On November 13 2012 20:31 dabom88 wrote: What is this talk about Tasteless and porn? Did something come up recently involving him and porn?
Just type "Tasteless porn" in google, im sure something should come up
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On November 13 2012 20:31 sitromit wrote: So people always hate on deathball turtle style play. MKP completely failed his initial harass, didn't do any damage. Then gave up and turtled and built a deathball. Meanwhile Hyun kept harassing, and killed a ton of SCVs, delayed tech structures, sniped add ons, killed a lot of Siege Tanks to delay the push.
But in the end, all that harass he did cost him the game, because it also delayed his Broodlords, and MKP just moved out and rolled him. If instead of all that active play Hyun had just turtled and built Broodlords himself, he could have won. If he did that though, everyone would whine about Infestor/Broodlord turtle patch Zerg OMG OP!
No he tried to kill MKP in midgame and did not do enough damage with his initial zerglings, because MKP had a 3rd command center and had enough mules and SCV production to completely recover, while Hyun had to delay production of workers. That is also the reason for hyuns constant counter attacks, he wanted to draw MKP back because he knew he could not win a direct engagement.
At least that is what i think :O
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On November 13 2012 20:31 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 20:25 DarkLordOlli wrote: MKP is gonna have a tough time against Ryung. Ryung's TvT is ridiculous. MKP retains his 80% TvT. He should be favoured
Not so sure, I don't think anybody should be favored against Ryung TvT. I'd settle for equal though
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On November 13 2012 20:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 20:31 dabom88 wrote: What is this talk about Tasteless and porn? Did something come up recently involving him and porn? Yeah :/ There's some dirty things he did back when he was living together with Day9. So him or day9 told a dirty/funny story involving tasteless and porn? Where can I find the source?
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On November 13 2012 20:33 Inzan1ty wrote: gosh, MKP fanboys are still the most annoying, lol
will he become best player in the universe again, if he wins GSL?
well no way, he will beat Life, or even Leenock tho zerosc2, go dig a hole somewhere until you get banned again
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On November 13 2012 20:33 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 20:31 dabom88 wrote: What is this talk about Tasteless and porn? Did something come up recently involving him and porn? Just type "Tasteless porn" in google, im sure something should come up
he complained on his twitter that his favorite sites are all blocked in korea
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On November 13 2012 20:34 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 20:33 Inzan1ty wrote: gosh, MKP fanboys are still the most annoying, lol
will he become best player in the universe again, if he wins GSL?
well no way, he will beat Life, or even Leenock tho zerosc2, go dig a hole somewhere until you get banned again
I love you man
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When the mutas popped, MKP had 8 hellions vs a single spine and a single queen at the nat and could have won right there (or delayed the muta harass enough to be totally safe). But he bring his hellions back to defend against air TT
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On November 13 2012 20:33 Otolia wrote: Anyhow HyuN is still way better than MKP and he is good enough to get out of the group. good joke, he's not better than MKP by most measures
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On November 13 2012 20:33 Inzan1ty wrote: gosh, MKP fanboys are still the most annoying, lol
will he become best player in the universe again, if he wins GSL?
well no way, he will beat Life, or even Leenock tho
They'll kill each other in Group Z. Don't worry MKP's got this, all of the Zergs capable of beating him are all trapped in the same group together. Only two will advance and he doesn't have to worry about playing either of them until Ro4.
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On November 13 2012 20:33 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 20:32 ThePlayer33 wrote:On November 13 2012 20:30 andaylin wrote:On November 13 2012 20:30 ThePlayer33 wrote:On November 13 2012 20:28 Noispaxen wrote:On November 13 2012 20:25 ThePlayer33 wrote: TO ALL ZERGS:
this is what happens if you dont go straight for infestors -> broodlords So basicly you are saying zerg is underpowered without infestor/broodlords? Reading these forums/reddit became real pain recently, no matter how the zerg plays, no matter if he wins or loses, at least 50% of comments are about balance, stop it... NOPE. but infestors-> broodlord is much easier win give his economic advantage. Hyun is no Life. What economic advantage. Watch the games, please. He was behind on income practically all game. after Hellion drop. Nope, Hyun could have been, but he decided to commit to mass lings to try and kill MKP. Ended up not working with only 30 drones to 28 scvs + 3CC. yep thats what i meant.
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