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On October 29 2012 21:04 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 21:02 Awesomeness wrote:On October 29 2012 21:00 Dodgin wrote:On October 29 2012 20:59 X3GoldDot wrote:
lol gg, taeja is first to be eliminated this GSL, despite being considered the best player in the world 2 months ago maybe people will learn to not hype players up so much and call them the best in the world before they win a Korean tournament this time. probably not! they never learn ~_~ So it's ok to hype Life now? :o yes! yes it is! the kid beat Mvp in a GSL finals, that's the ultimate test of your ability as a starcraft 2 player.
HAHA! It gets me thinking though, because here in SC2, Korean tourneys are very different from foreign tournaments. Well, I guess I'm just reopening the debate as to what kind of tournament format is harder.
I just miss the BW days when it was practically impossible for a foreigner to beat a Korean. Now, mid-level and lower level Korean players lose in foreign tournaments all the time. On the other hand, those foreigners who do beat those Koreans get their asses handed to them by the same players in a GSL style tournament.
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Well, imagine this: TaeJa woke up this morning, having terrible diarrhea. He felt really sick, and he thought he might be coming down with the flu. He goes to the studio, has to play his round of 32 group. He plays terribly, loses twice in a row, and falls to code A.
Does that make him suddenly a bad player? A single bad day, and you can fall out of Code S. It can happen to anyone, and it doens't even have ot be something as drastic as being sick. You could be unlucky, you could have slept badly, anything. So it's not deserved to say TaeJa is a bad player all of a sudden.
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On October 29 2012 21:05 sertman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 21:04 Dodgin wrote:On October 29 2012 21:02 Awesomeness wrote:On October 29 2012 21:00 Dodgin wrote:On October 29 2012 20:59 X3GoldDot wrote:
lol gg, taeja is first to be eliminated this GSL, despite being considered the best player in the world 2 months ago maybe people will learn to not hype players up so much and call them the best in the world before they win a Korean tournament this time. probably not! they never learn ~_~ So it's ok to hype Life now? :o yes! yes it is! the kid beat Mvp in a GSL finals, that's the ultimate test of your ability as a starcraft 2 player. yeah but what happens if he gets knocked down to code A? "people were saying he was the best in the world 3 weeks ago when will they learn ~_~"
the hype train reaches its goal when that player wins a GSL/OSL
So Life, Rain can win multiple starleagues or go straight to obvilion, who cares
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On October 29 2012 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 21:05 Arc1 wrote:On October 29 2012 21:04 Kasaraki wrote:On October 29 2012 21:03 Mackus wrote:On October 29 2012 21:01 lichter wrote:On October 29 2012 21:01 silent_owl wrote:
HAHA! And now, Polt shows Taeja the difference between a GSL champion and a foreign tourney champion. I feel sad but I also like Polt so I just hope Taeja manages to go straight into GSL. Polt won a GSL? When did that happen :p (I love this joke, sorry) GOM are classing the Super tournament as a GSL Championship so yes it actually happened. No, that can't be... A Prime player won that. That was OptimusPrime, I heard rumors that he switched to lol with bitbybit  BitbyBit switching to LoL would be hilarious. "He's pulling all his minions!!!"
He could be perfect jungler in dota2 with that skill.
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If we can't hype a guy who in the last month made top8 gsl / top 4 gsl / 3 win in 3 foreign tournament, it's gonna be kinda hard to actually hype someone. Or maybe people are saying only mvp deserves hype.
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On October 29 2012 21:07 Kasaraki wrote:
Well, imagine this: TaeJa woke up this morning, having terrible diarrhea. He felt really sick, and he thought he might be coming down with the flu. He goes to the studio, has to play his round of 32 group. He plays terribly, loses twice in a row, and falls to code A.
Does that make him suddenly a bad player?
yes
+ Show Spoiler +our community is very fickle
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On October 29 2012 21:05 sertman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 21:04 Dodgin wrote:On October 29 2012 21:02 Awesomeness wrote:On October 29 2012 21:00 Dodgin wrote:On October 29 2012 20:59 X3GoldDot wrote:
lol gg, taeja is first to be eliminated this GSL, despite being considered the best player in the world 2 months ago maybe people will learn to not hype players up so much and call them the best in the world before they win a Korean tournament this time. probably not! they never learn ~_~ So it's ok to hype Life now? :o yes! yes it is! the kid beat Mvp in a GSL finals, that's the ultimate test of your ability as a starcraft 2 player. yeah but what happens if he gets knocked down to code A? "people were saying he was the best in the world 3 weeks ago when will they learn ~_~"
Life won't get knocked down into Code A.
Look at his group.The easiest ever.
Plus, he took down MVP(most successful player of all-time) in a GSL final(MVP homecourt) in his first try.
When you are 15 and being a Royal Roader beating the best player,
You are on to great things and his hype is well deserved.
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We should write a template for these discussions.
"$PLAYERNAME had done so well in $TOURNEYNAME, he definitely was Top {1, ..., 5} $RACE in the world!
I think we can all agree that MY method for extrapolating absolute statements of skills from a sample of {5, ..., 20} games is perfect!"
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On October 29 2012 21:06 Megabuster123 wrote:
Is this Dreamtheater?
I think it's James LaBrie's solo work.
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On October 29 2012 21:07 Kasaraki wrote:
Well, imagine this: TaeJa woke up this morning, having terrible diarrhea. He felt really sick, and he thought he might be coming down with the flu. He goes to the studio, has to play his round of 32 group. He plays terribly, loses twice in a row, and falls to code A.
Does that make him suddenly a bad player? A single bad day, and you can fall out of Code S. It can happen to anyone, and it doens't even have ot be something as drastic as being sick. You could be unlucky, you could have slept badly, anything. So it's not deserved to say TaeJa is a bad player all of a sudden.
Exactly this, although the diarrhoea scenario is a bit over the top maybe. SC2 is so volatile that tracking skill like this is very difficult. If you react too quickly, you will never be right.
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On October 29 2012 21:08 WigglingSquid wrote:
We should write a template for these discussions.
"$PLAYERNAME had done so well in $TOURNEYNAME, he definitely was Top {1, ..., 5} $RACE in the world!
I think we can all agree that MY method for extrapolating absolute statements of skills from a sample of {5, ..., 20} games is perfect!"
Better put that shit in the LR resources thread!
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On October 29 2012 21:07 Arc1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:On October 29 2012 21:05 Arc1 wrote:On October 29 2012 21:04 Kasaraki wrote:On October 29 2012 21:03 Mackus wrote:On October 29 2012 21:01 lichter wrote:On October 29 2012 21:01 silent_owl wrote:
HAHA! And now, Polt shows Taeja the difference between a GSL champion and a foreign tourney champion. I feel sad but I also like Polt so I just hope Taeja manages to go straight into GSL. Polt won a GSL? When did that happen :p (I love this joke, sorry) GOM are classing the Super tournament as a GSL Championship so yes it actually happened. No, that can't be... A Prime player won that. That was OptimusPrime, I heard rumors that he switched to lol with bitbybit BitbyBit switching to LoL would be hilarious. "He's pulling all his minions!!!" He could be perfect jungler in dota2 with that skill.
HAHAHA! MAN, that BitbyBit joke had me laughing for five minutes. LOL!
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On October 29 2012 21:09 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 21:08 WigglingSquid wrote:
We should write a template for these discussions.
"$PLAYERNAME had done so well in $TOURNEYNAME, he definitely was Top {1, ..., 5} $RACE in the world!
I think we can all agree that MY method for extrapolating absolute statements of skills from a sample of {5, ..., 20} games is perfect!" Better put that shit in the LR resources thread!
oi, stay outta my thread
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On October 29 2012 21:07 Kasaraki wrote:
Well, imagine this: TaeJa woke up this morning, having terrible diarrhea. He felt really sick, and he thought he might be coming down with the flu. He goes to the studio, has to play his round of 32 group. He plays terribly, loses twice in a row, and falls to code A.
Does that make him suddenly a bad player? A single bad day, and you can fall out of Code S. It can happen to anyone, and it doens't even have ot be something as drastic as being sick. You could be unlucky, you could have slept badly, anything. So it's not deserved to say TaeJa is a bad player all of a sudden.
The point was he is continually hyped as being the best terran. And he lost terribly in both of his matches, sure everyone has bad days, but you're expected to perform a tiny bit better than 0-2 against players you should beat/have beaten in the past.
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This isn't anything new Artosis.
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On October 29 2012 21:08 Gevna wrote:
If we can't hype a guy who in the last month made top8 gsl / top 4 gsl / 3 win in 3 foreign tournament, it's gonna be kinda hard to actually hype someone. Or maybe people are saying only mvp deserves hype.
Yup, Boxer, NaDa, Flash all over hyped...
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On October 29 2012 21:07 Kasaraki wrote:
Well, imagine this: TaeJa woke up this morning, having terrible diarrhea. He felt really sick, and he thought he might be coming down with the flu. He goes to the studio, has to play his round of 32 group. He plays terribly, loses twice in a row, and falls to code A.
Does that make him suddenly a bad player? A single bad day, and you can fall out of Code S. It can happen to anyone, and it doens't even have ot be something as drastic as being sick. You could be unlucky, you could have slept badly, anything. So it's not deserved to say TaeJa is a bad player all of a sudden.
Parting actually got sick and slept badly today. Didn't stop him from winning
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On October 29 2012 21:09 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 21:08 WigglingSquid wrote:
We should write a template for these discussions.
"$PLAYERNAME had done so well in $TOURNEYNAME, he definitely was Top {1, ..., 5} $RACE in the world!
I think we can all agree that MY method for extrapolating absolute statements of skills from a sample of {5, ..., 20} games is perfect!" Better put that shit in the LR resources thread!
Please don't put any shit anywhere anymore. We've had enough of that -_-
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