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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
December 16 2012 21:43 GMT
#861
Congrats to MKP! Dimaga so close again.

Good for the tournament that every series in the Knockout Stages came down to the Final match.
dOraWa
Profile Joined August 2012
Korea (South)53 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 21:45:12
December 16 2012 21:43 GMT
#862
On December 17 2012 06:39 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 06:37 Emptyness wrote:
Why, why, why DIMAGA ?

So sad now

It was pretty clear why. MKP was doing ridiculously abusive econ openings and they deserved to be punished. Can't believe people are blaming Dimaga for this, when it is MKP's play that prompted it, and it is a perfectly legitimate strat in a bo5. You play to win. It is just sad that he messed up his execution in the last 2 games.


You're saying CC first is an abusive econ opening?
MKP, Taeja, Flash, and MVP would all like words with you.

Edit: Dimaga could easily have done an "abusive" econ opening himself, opening 3 hatch before pool. His fault for being predictable/sloppy with his counter build
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 21:48:22
December 16 2012 21:47 GMT
#863
On December 17 2012 06:43 dOraWa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 06:39 rasnj wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:37 Emptyness wrote:
Why, why, why DIMAGA ?

So sad now

It was pretty clear why. MKP was doing ridiculously abusive econ openings and they deserved to be punished. Can't believe people are blaming Dimaga for this, when it is MKP's play that prompted it, and it is a perfectly legitimate strat in a bo5. You play to win. It is just sad that he messed up his execution in the last 2 games.


You're saying CC first is an abusive econ opening?
MKP, Taeja, Flash, and MVP would all like words with you.

Edit: Dimaga could easily have done an "abusive" econ opening himself, opening 3 hatch before pool.

If you do it >80% of the time in series without scout and put it on low-ground, then yes I would call that abusive. If you do it sometimes, or with scout, or as part of a wall-in, then not so much. Sure dimaga could have gone 3 hatch before pool, but why should he? It is also abusive (even more so), and isn't nearly as good a counter to MKP's strat as a well-executed 6pool is.

EDIT: And dimaga appararently wasn't predictable with his counter build as MKP failed to account for it in all 3 cases. He just had decent reactions once it was revealed and Dimaga failed to execute correctly.
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 21:49:59
December 16 2012 21:47 GMT
#864
Well, I really feel sorry for DIMAGA . He is capable of beating MKP and with game 2 he showed that and I don't know what's going in his head right now and why he decided to do the same strategy for 3rd time (even tho he knows that MKP is going CC first on low ground) .

Anyway, I want to thank Millenium, for hosting this awesome tournament (8 players, but so many big names nevertheless) - there were some great games and made my weekend way more entertaining . The casting from ToD was also on a very good level, I like the idea co-casting with the players . The breaks were also entertaining (especially the dancing part ). And the quality of the stream (for free) was so good .

So, for all above, I THANK YOU !

And DIMAGA - keep up the good play, you will have more tournaments in front of you and will win some of them for sure, if you keep improving .
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 16 2012 21:50 GMT
#865
really good tournament, millenium did well
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
December 16 2012 21:50 GMT
#866
On December 17 2012 06:47 Emptyness wrote:

Anyway, I want to thank Millenium, for hosting this awesome tournament (8 players, but so many big names nevertheless) - there were some great games and made my weekend way more entertaining . The casting from ToD was also on a very good level, I like the idea co-casting with the players . The breaks were also entertaining (especially the dancing part :clap. And the quality of the stream (for free) was so good .

So, for all above, I THANK YOU !


Co-sign! It was a great and enjoyable tournament! Thanks to Millenium, all the players, casters, tournament staff and the sponsors for coming together to produce a wonderful tournament! Congrats!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 21:51:05
December 16 2012 21:50 GMT
#867
Now I'm actually looking a little more forward to the next Homestory Cup.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 16 2012 21:52 GMT
#868
Millenium (and mostly Llewellys), you did well ! Gratz !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Khonsou
Profile Joined September 2011
Dominican Republic275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 21:53:48
December 16 2012 21:53 GMT
#869
That was really entertaining
A French living under the sun
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
December 16 2012 21:55 GMT
#870
that was a homestory cup appetizer
byah!
gazageiras
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 21:56:51
December 16 2012 21:56 GMT
#871
Lol MC watching his own game at the Ironsquid
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
December 16 2012 21:57 GMT
#872
AWESOME ! Thanks for the tournament ♥
"MBCGame HERO... What Else ?"
eronica
Profile Joined October 2012
175 Posts
December 16 2012 21:57 GMT
#873
"Talking with the viewers" time
skinner
Profile Joined May 2012
19 Posts
December 16 2012 21:58 GMT
#874
now its time to troll whith bob
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
December 16 2012 21:58 GMT
#875
On December 17 2012 06:47 Emptyness wrote:
Well, I really feel sorry for DIMAGA . He is capable of beating MKP and with game 2 he showed that and I don't know what's going in his head right now and why he decided to do the same strategy for 3rd time (even tho he knows that MKP is going CC first on low ground) .

Anyway, I want to thank Millenium, for hosting this awesome tournament (8 players, but so many big names nevertheless) - there were some great games and made my weekend way more entertaining . The casting from ToD was also on a very good level, I like the idea co-casting with the players . The breaks were also entertaining (especially the dancing part ). And the quality of the stream (for free) was so good .

So, for all above, I THANK YOU !

And DIMAGA - keep up the good play, you will have more tournaments in front of you and will win some of them for sure, if you keep improving .

Agree completely with this. Really enjoyable little tournament with some great games all around. Cool to see Dimaga doing so well. Especially enjoyed the commentary by Tod and Goswser, but all the (English) commentators were great. There was probably a little too much downtime, and it was a bit annoying not to have instant vods, but I understand that the Dailymotion platform may make that a little hard, and it was not really a huge deal.
WeRRa
Profile Joined December 2010
378 Posts
December 16 2012 21:59 GMT
#876
On December 17 2012 06:47 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 06:43 dOraWa wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:39 rasnj wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:37 Emptyness wrote:
Why, why, why DIMAGA ?

So sad now

It was pretty clear why. MKP was doing ridiculously abusive econ openings and they deserved to be punished. Can't believe people are blaming Dimaga for this, when it is MKP's play that prompted it, and it is a perfectly legitimate strat in a bo5. You play to win. It is just sad that he messed up his execution in the last 2 games.


You're saying CC first is an abusive econ opening?
MKP, Taeja, Flash, and MVP would all like words with you.

Edit: Dimaga could easily have done an "abusive" econ opening himself, opening 3 hatch before pool.

If you do it >80% of the time in series without scout and put it on low-ground, then yes I would call that abusive. If you do it sometimes, or with scout, or as part of a wall-in, then not so much. Sure dimaga could have gone 3 hatch before pool, but why should he? It is also abusive (even more so), and isn't nearly as good a counter to MKP's strat as a well-executed 6pool is.

EDIT: And dimaga appararently wasn't predictable with his counter build as MKP failed to account for it in all 3 cases. He just had decent reactions once it was revealed and Dimaga failed to execute correctly.

Actully the only reason for going 6 pool instead of 3 hatch before pool is cause Dimaga can't beat MKP in a macro game and he knows that aswell.
InnoVation Fighting!!!
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 16 2012 22:05 GMT
#877
On December 17 2012 06:47 Emptyness wrote:
Well, I really feel sorry for DIMAGA . He is capable of beating MKP and with game 2 he showed that and I don't know what's going in his head right now and why he decided to do the same strategy for 3rd time (even tho he knows that MKP is going CC first on low ground) .

Anyway, I want to thank Millenium, for hosting this awesome tournament (8 players, but so many big names nevertheless) - there were some great games and made my weekend way more entertaining . The casting from ToD was also on a very good level, I like the idea co-casting with the players . The breaks were also entertaining (especially the dancing part ). And the quality of the stream (for free) was so good .

So, for all above, I THANK YOU !

And DIMAGA - keep up the good play, you will have more tournaments in front of you and will win some of them for sure, if you keep improving .

Mech is a totally different thing than Bio, and roach drops counters hellion/tank mech pretty well, there is no timer on the roaches.

I was a bit sad that I didn't get to see the good ol' Dimaga baneling bust.. 50000 banelings at the 10 minute mark just walks into the terran base..
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
December 16 2012 22:05 GMT
#878
On December 17 2012 06:59 WeRRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 06:47 rasnj wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:43 dOraWa wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:39 rasnj wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:37 Emptyness wrote:
Why, why, why DIMAGA ?

So sad now

It was pretty clear why. MKP was doing ridiculously abusive econ openings and they deserved to be punished. Can't believe people are blaming Dimaga for this, when it is MKP's play that prompted it, and it is a perfectly legitimate strat in a bo5. You play to win. It is just sad that he messed up his execution in the last 2 games.


You're saying CC first is an abusive econ opening?
MKP, Taeja, Flash, and MVP would all like words with you.

Edit: Dimaga could easily have done an "abusive" econ opening himself, opening 3 hatch before pool.

If you do it >80% of the time in series without scout and put it on low-ground, then yes I would call that abusive. If you do it sometimes, or with scout, or as part of a wall-in, then not so much. Sure dimaga could have gone 3 hatch before pool, but why should he? It is also abusive (even more so), and isn't nearly as good a counter to MKP's strat as a well-executed 6pool is.

EDIT: And dimaga appararently wasn't predictable with his counter build as MKP failed to account for it in all 3 cases. He just had decent reactions once it was revealed and Dimaga failed to execute correctly.

Actully the only reason for going 6 pool instead of 3 hatch before pool is cause Dimaga can't beat MKP in a macro game and he knows that aswell.

I have the feeling you are trying to make a point, but what is it? Please don't go back to this fallacy that outmacro'ing your opponent is magically better than beating him in other ways. Early agression is just as much part of SC2 as macro. Do you also complain about everyone who attacks his opponent when the opponent goes triple expand before barracks/gateway/spawning pool?
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
December 16 2012 22:06 GMT
#879
nice tournament and nice cover

next time, let ToD or someone better with english do the interviews, cause it's quite embarrassing to see someone asking questions but don't even understand the answers
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
December 16 2012 22:09 GMT
#880
On December 17 2012 06:59 WeRRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 06:47 rasnj wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:43 dOraWa wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:39 rasnj wrote:
On December 17 2012 06:37 Emptyness wrote:
Why, why, why DIMAGA ?

So sad now

It was pretty clear why. MKP was doing ridiculously abusive econ openings and they deserved to be punished. Can't believe people are blaming Dimaga for this, when it is MKP's play that prompted it, and it is a perfectly legitimate strat in a bo5. You play to win. It is just sad that he messed up his execution in the last 2 games.


You're saying CC first is an abusive econ opening?
MKP, Taeja, Flash, and MVP would all like words with you.

Edit: Dimaga could easily have done an "abusive" econ opening himself, opening 3 hatch before pool.

If you do it >80% of the time in series without scout and put it on low-ground, then yes I would call that abusive. If you do it sometimes, or with scout, or as part of a wall-in, then not so much. Sure dimaga could have gone 3 hatch before pool, but why should he? It is also abusive (even more so), and isn't nearly as good a counter to MKP's strat as a well-executed 6pool is.

EDIT: And dimaga appararently wasn't predictable with his counter build as MKP failed to account for it in all 3 cases. He just had decent reactions once it was revealed and Dimaga failed to execute correctly.

Actully the only reason for going 6 pool instead of 3 hatch before pool is cause Dimaga can't beat MKP in a macro game and he knows that aswell.


Let us just for a moment say that was the case. Then MKP is completely retarded for going for CC first on low ground which he knows is punishable by a correctly executed 6-7 pool. Why not go for a safer opening (say 1rax expand) and go into mid-late game with a potential slight disadvantage? That would give him a 100% win percentage vs Dimaga.

I somehow feel you didn't watch game 2 or the games yesterday vs goswser. Or any MKP TvZ the last couple of months.
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