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FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
October 16 2012 11:36 GMT
#441
"It seems they traded evenly"

MC left with 6 stalkers. DRG with 10 BroodLords and 8 Infestors.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
October 16 2012 11:36 GMT
#442
MOletrap "Looks like theyre going to trade evenly." As MC is at 80 supply to the 190 of DRG.
#TheOneTrueDong
Le Cheque Zo
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Spain133 Posts
October 16 2012 11:36 GMT
#443
lol why are people still talking about balance?
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#444
On October 16 2012 20:35 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 20:34 TommyP wrote:
On October 16 2012 20:32 vthree wrote:
On October 16 2012 20:31 TommyP wrote:
DRG is soooo sexy.

Also Zerg wins "Zerg imba"

Protoss wins on immortal sentry all-in. "Wow great build"


Lol, there are PLENTY of zergs tears when they get 2 base all-in...

yes there are, but it doesnt come close to when a zerg plays well all game and gets to the late game and wins with brood lord infestor.


Trust me, it is the same.


when a zerg wins late game, terran and protoss whine, when a zerg loses mid game, zergs whine. The quality of whine is same but the amount is not. Anyway what does this accomplish, nothing good but acknowledging that qqing is just ruining everyones LR life
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#445
Poll: Recommend Game 2 - Antiga Shipyard?

No (19)
 
58%

Yes (13)
 
39%

If you have time (1)
 
3%

33 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 2 - Antiga Shipyard?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#446
thank god for terrans

otherwise sc2 would be a 100% flop
young ho
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#447
On October 16 2012 20:36 Waxangel wrote:
by the way, when's the last time Rain had to play a good hive-turtler? I'm wondering how he'd fair against DRG, if DRG can survive the three base timings


Well curious is probably the worst hive-turtler out there and he managed to beat him back during WCS korea.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#448
Don't care about the balance, but fuck - PvZ is BORING. :[

Protoss wins by all ins or Zerg wins by ridiculous turtling.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#449
On October 16 2012 20:36 Le Cheque Zo wrote:
lol why are people still talking about balance?

yea stupid people are stupid.
#TheOneTrueDong
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#450
Making BLs cost more supply doesn't solve anything besides making the ultimate deathball weaker. We will see even more turtling due to ability to spread army thin.

If anything, we should make BLs more expensive but cost less supply instead. Force zerg to move out to fight for additional bases, but give them a larger army to defend a wider area or use them for aggression. More expensive = less remax for split maps situation.

Even so that might be useless. Zergs can just switch into a heavier infestor composition, all you need is just 10+ BLs support.
Changing BLs stats might chance TvZ dynamics too. PvZ is just hopeless at this point.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#451
That was a better game atleast, that final engagement was so stupid though. :/
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FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#452
On October 16 2012 20:35 ImNightmare wrote:
Is this a best of 5?

Seven.
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#453
MC's GF looking kinda fine
For the Swarm * DRG *
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 11:43:23
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#454
yay!!

one game at a time, baby!
you can do it, DRG!!
moo...for DRG
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#455
On October 16 2012 20:35 ImNightmare wrote:
Is this a best of 5?

Bo7

On October 16 2012 20:36 Waxangel wrote:
by the way, when's the last time Rain had to play a good hive-turtler? I'm wondering how he'd fair against DRG, if DRG can survive the three base timings

If there's one thing I've learned this season it's that Rain can beat anyone and everything
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
October 16 2012 11:38 GMT
#456
Poor MC
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 11:38:48
October 16 2012 11:38 GMT
#457
On October 16 2012 20:33 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 20:29 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 16 2012 20:28 Laurens wrote:
On October 16 2012 20:26 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 16 2012 20:25 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 16 2012 20:23 MateShade wrote:
On October 16 2012 20:22 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 16 2012 20:21 MateShade wrote:
On October 16 2012 20:20 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 16 2012 20:18 Heavenlee wrote:
[quote]

you mean, how many times must you say it without making any sense? Why would there be a mid-game buff for a SUPPLY CHANGE for a unit so that you can have less of it, since it's clearly a problem? That has no effect on anything instead of making the overpowered late-game more manageable.

5 supply means less broodlords. Less broodlords means less of a army. You seem to think supply is a small problem but zerg is the swarm race. We aren't like toss with big supplies but equally big fire power. We are weak unless we have the numbers. You don't make sense because you think zerg is op, I think z v p needs a redesign for both races to have options in every stage of the game. big difference.

Less brood lords means more balance :D

I am sorry but I am really not interested in discussing with a player who thinks his losses comes from imbalance instead of admitting he just suck. Good day to you sir.


I play random, and Zerg is freaking easy, maybe you shouldn't assume things

I play toss and I do better in ZvP than PvZ at the same mmr :s

look I don't like to say this and that is imbalanced, but there's no reason to be delusional

Sorry hax but I have been here long enough to know that you always say zerg is op even when we have fuck up win rates like now. You need to stop being delusional and just accept you can't play.


"I have been here long enough"

join date: May 2012

LOL

lol? 5 months and he has been whining zerg is op in every thread. Is that not long enough? fool.

Correction, the only times I have something to say about zerg is when I'm arguing with you, because more than anything I'm fighting for truth and your claims are just simply wrong. That's all there is to it.

The only thing I've ever thought was straight-up imbalanced post-beta was 1/1/1 during it's peak. PvZ is just a generally poorly designed matchup, which is something most people agree on. That's got nothing to do with balance alright? Just awkward game design, and there is no good solution to it, hence why people keep discussing it since someone one day might come up with something smart for once.

That is all. Now enough of this, got some OSL to watch, gogo MC

And I agree with you, design flaw is fucked up. Maybe I misunderstood your quote " play toss and I do better in ZvP than PvZ at the same mmr :slook I don't like to say this and that is imbalanced, but there's no reason to be delusional", but if you meant its a design flaw then yes I agree, I would much prefer a better mid game with a lousier late game. Its just not fun playing zerg and having to go infestor brood lord.
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
October 16 2012 11:38 GMT
#458
On October 16 2012 20:36 TommyP wrote:
MOletrap "Looks like theyre going to trade evenly." As MC is at 80 supply to the 190 of DRG.


trade evenly = protoss dead.
Give thanks and praise!
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
October 16 2012 11:38 GMT
#459
On October 16 2012 20:37 Krossfire wrote:
MC's GF looking kinda fine


that's DRG's GF
I'm sure.
moo...for DRG
CikaZombi
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia630 Posts
October 16 2012 11:38 GMT
#460
On October 16 2012 20:36 Waxangel wrote:
by the way, when's the last time Rain had to play a good hive-turtler? I'm wondering how he'd fair against DRG, if DRG can survive the three base timings


Indeed it looks like DRG figured out this. So the finals will be very interesting to see how Rain adapts to this super safe turtle style.
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