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Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
October 14 2012 05:04 GMT
#341
Did koreans get stronger or chinese scene just falling behind? I thought he could at least hang with them respectably. Werent they quite a threat a year ago?

btw what's up with all these outdated builds?
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 14 2012 05:05 GMT
#342
On October 14 2012 14:01 OhSix wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the only person to win a series against a Non Korean in this tournament was Sen against Miya. o.O


I think you mean either lose a series against a Non Korean or win a series vs a Korean.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 14 2012 05:05 GMT
#343
Don't underestimate Lucifron. His TvZ is essentially one big Zerg BBQ.
EZ4ENCE
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 14 2012 05:05 GMT
#344
On October 14 2012 14:04 Govou wrote:
Did koreans get stronger or chinese scene just falling behind? I thought he could at least hang with them respectably. Werent they quite a threat a year ago?

btw what's up with all these outdated builds?


Chinese are still too busy playing WC3 so even the Kespa players are ahead of them when it comes to fully transitioning
zestzorb
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand776 Posts
October 14 2012 05:05 GMT
#345
Koreans vs foreigners stats
match: 23-1
map: 47-6
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 05:09:04
October 14 2012 05:07 GMT
#346
The WCS World Championship race distribution tells us what we already know...which is Korean Terrans in general are the ones that can keep up and are playing at the highest level. They didn't show up (figuratively and literally) during WCS Korea, and exactly what we expected to happen occured.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 14 2012 05:07 GMT
#347
On October 14 2012 14:05 zestzorb wrote:
Koreans vs foreigners stats
match: 23-1
map: 47-6

Pretty disappointing performance + Show Spoiler +
for the koreans. Gg miya ruining 24-0
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 05:09:30
October 14 2012 05:08 GMT
#348
On October 14 2012 14:04 Govou wrote:
Did koreans get stronger or chinese scene just falling behind? I thought he could at least hang with them respectably. Werent they quite a threat a year ago?


Pretty sure that was a lot of severe overestimation of the Chinese scene, because they were mysterious and no one knew much about them. There were like two players who were supposedly good (Xigua and Macsed iirc), and even they were never considered to be on par with top Koreans. And certainly no foreigner scene- even other Asians- were considered on even footing with Koreans in general.

This is par for the course. China vs. EU (NA?) would be an actual tournament. This was just a spanking.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 14 2012 05:08 GMT
#349
On October 14 2012 14:07 Thrillz wrote:
The WCS World Championship race distribution tells us what we already know...which is Korean Terrans in general are the ones the ones that can keep up and are playing at the highest level. They didn't show up (figuratively and literally) during WCS Korea, and exactly what we expected to happen occured.


Not true, check my post on the previous page
BoReDWiTHLiFe
Profile Joined June 2011
85 Posts
October 14 2012 05:09 GMT
#350
On October 14 2012 14:05 zestzorb wrote:
Koreans vs foreigners stats
match: 23-1
map: 47-6


3 of those 6 wins or half were also won by Sen alone.
Random is OP
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 14 2012 05:09 GMT
#351
On October 14 2012 14:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 14:04 Govou wrote:
Did koreans get stronger or chinese scene just falling behind? I thought he could at least hang with them respectably. Werent they quite a threat a year ago?


Pretty sure that was a lot of severe overestimation of the Chinese scene, because they were mysterious and no one knew much about them. There were like two players who were supposedly good (Xigua and Macsed iirc), and even they were never considered to be on par with top Koreans. And certainly no foreigner scene- even other Asians- were considered on even footing with Koreans in general.

This is par for the course. China vs. EU would be an actual tournament. This was just a spanking.

Xiaot was the hero china deserved
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Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
October 14 2012 05:11 GMT
#352
On October 14 2012 14:08 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 14:07 Thrillz wrote:
The WCS World Championship race distribution tells us what we already know...which is Korean Terrans in general are the ones the ones that can keep up and are playing at the highest level. They didn't show up (figuratively and literally) during WCS Korea, and exactly what we expected to happen occured.


Not true, check my post on the previous page


Read my post again... They didn't show up (figuratively and literally)
Tuer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States19 Posts
October 14 2012 05:11 GMT
#353
All I want is to see Artosis try and cast herO vs HerO.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 14 2012 05:12 GMT
#354
That Chinese man on the right, was it just me who thought that was HD for a while?

Come on Curious! StarTale fighting!
EZ4ENCE
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
October 14 2012 05:13 GMT
#355
On October 14 2012 14:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 14:04 Govou wrote:
Did koreans get stronger or chinese scene just falling behind? I thought he could at least hang with them respectably. Werent they quite a threat a year ago?


Pretty sure that was a lot of severe overestimation of the Chinese scene, because they were mysterious and no one knew much about them. There were like two players who were supposedly good (Xigua and Macsed iirc), and even they were never considered to be on par with top Koreans. And certainly no foreigner scene- even other Asians- were considered on even footing with Koreans in general.

This is par for the course. China vs. EU would be an actual tournament. This was just a spanking.


China vs EU sounds like an exciting idea. Maybe someone can cash in on that.
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 14 2012 05:13 GMT
#356
On October 14 2012 14:11 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 14:08 Mackus wrote:
On October 14 2012 14:07 Thrillz wrote:
The WCS World Championship race distribution tells us what we already know...which is Korean Terrans in general are the ones the ones that can keep up and are playing at the highest level. They didn't show up (figuratively and literally) during WCS Korea, and exactly what we expected to happen occured.


Not true, check my post on the previous page


Read my post again... They didn't show up (figuratively and literally)


I gotcha, it's 6am and I've watched a whole night's worth of PvP and ZvZ they're good enough excuses for losing sanity
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44365 Posts
October 14 2012 05:13 GMT
#357
On October 14 2012 14:11 Tuer wrote:
All I want is to see Artosis try and cast herO vs HerO.


I've seen HuK vs. Hack and other similar named pairings casted before... I'm hoping they call them Little H and Big H ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 14 2012 05:15 GMT
#358
On October 14 2012 14:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 14:11 Tuer wrote:
All I want is to see Artosis try and cast herO vs HerO.


I've seen HuK vs. Hack and other similar named pairings casted before... I'm hoping they call them Little H and Big H ^^

we also just had Hyun vs Byun in ipl fight club
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Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
October 14 2012 05:17 GMT
#359
Just got back from clubbing, now tuned in to LoL S2 finale and WCS Asia :D I love early sundays :D
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
October 14 2012 05:17 GMT
#360
I've never seen double hatch before pool in a zvp..
Refer to my post.
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