EPTOn October 04 2012 19:17 shadowy wrote:
WTF? Again?
WTF? Again?
Calm down he's mind gaming Leenock, seems he mind gamed you too
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
Calm down he's mind gaming Leenock, seems he mind gamed you too | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
Symbol won with cheese. MVP won the rest in near-maxed fashion with dominating performances | ||
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billywayne
Brazil109 Posts
He went roach bane vs 3CC or something like that | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:17 fixed_point wrote: Taeja vs Leenock Game 4: Antiga Shipyard. Taeja at 8, Leenock at 2 2:00 Double rax vs hatch first again 3:00 Leenock getting gas, taeja getting marines. 4:00 Marines and a few SCVs heading towards leenock's natural. Lings on the way for leenock. Taeja retreats and is building an expo. 5:00 Speed on the way for leenock. Marines are intercepted on the way back, but the lings are cleaned up eventually. 6:00 Third command centre on the way for Taeja. Leenock taking a third | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:18 bittman wrote: Symbol won with cheese. MVP won the rest in near-maxed fashion with dominating performances scouting 3 cc before gas and punishing it isnt cheese | ||
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:17 L3g3nd_ wrote: its incredibly hard to do determain balance. you need serious in depth game/replay analysis Stats are affected by player strength, and if a player is better, they will go further in a tournament so they will affect the stats more than any other player. if MVP goes 16-0 and wins the GSL, terran will probably be favored that month in the match up, doesnt mean its imba, just means MVP is the best player. Long-term statistics are not affected by this | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:15 Fragile51 wrote: Never seen the artosis curse take effect this quickly :p The curse grows with Artosis' power as Pharaoh. | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:17 kollin wrote: Taeja should take Antiga Shipyard now. I wonder if Leenock will do some roach banery or something like that to try and pull himself back in the series. the map pool is pre decided by gom | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:19 Tsubbi wrote: scouting 3 cc before gas and punishing it isnt cheese Lol yes it is, you grab your third immediately, if for some reason you haven't already. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:17 L3g3nd_ wrote: its incredibly hard to do determain balance. you need serious in depth game/replay analysis Stats are affected by player strength, and if a player is better, they will go further in a tournament so they will affect the stats more than any other player. if MVP goes 16-0 and wins the GSL, terran will probably be favored that month in the match up, doesnt mean its imba, just means MVP is the best player. regression towards the mean, with a large enough sample size you should be able to. 16 games will be but a drop in the pool compared to the hundreds of games played (not on whirlwind yet, but in total) | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:20 SolidMustard wrote: Long-term statistics are not affected by this yes but long term statistics dont take into account meta game shifts (which can change balance) nor patches. If you look at a 3 month period, it could have been T favored first month, zerg favored 2nd month, and balacned third month, so stats say 50% the whole time. Seriously, stats mean nothing | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:19 Tsubbi wrote: scouting 3 cc before gas and punishing it isnt cheese Yes it is... It pains me so much when people say stuff like this. Cheese isn't a bad thing. Every pro player does and should do it from time to time. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12042 Posts
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:19 fixed_point wrote: 3:00 Leenock getting gas, taeja getting marines. 4:00 Marines and a few SCVs heading towards leenock's natural. Lings on the way for leenock. Taeja retreats and is building an expo. 5:00 Speed on the way for leenock. Marines are intercepted on the way back, but the lings are cleaned up eventually. 6:00 Third command centre on the way for Taeja. Leenock taking a third 8:00 Taeja going for banshees and hellions. Baneling nest on the way for leenock. 9:00 Leenock constantly scouting with a few lings, even taking out an SCV. Hellion harass gets shut down by queen, lings, and buildings. 9:30 Banshee harass starts, taking down a queen, but loses the banshee. Leenock making many units, ready for a baneling bust. | ||
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:21 andaylin wrote: Lol yes it is, you grab your third immediately, if for some reason you haven't already. Some people seem to believe that cheese is a synonym for agressive play. You're ATTACKING me? You're not making only workers til the 10 minuts mark? CHEESER #facepalm | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:22 L3g3nd_ wrote: yes but long term statistics dont take into account meta game shifts (which can change balance) nor patches. If you look at a 3 month period, it could have been T favored first month, zerg favored 2nd month, and balacned third month, so stats say 50% the whole time. Seriously, stats mean nothing they're still the best thing we have for determining balance, i see no other way to reliably determine balance, unless we have a pro who is equally top KR GM in all races and is unbiased. | ||
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Leimus
72 Posts
On October 04 2012 19:21 andaylin wrote: Lol yes it is, you grab your third immediately, if for some reason you haven't already. It's a reactionary all-in. Not the same thing as cheese. There's recently been lot of these "cheese" claims on builds that have nothing to do with the word. | ||
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