Streamer's Community Choice

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

September 30 2012 08:18 GMT

Lower Bracket Finals and Grandfinals will be played on a later date.

Close to updated bracket: http://imgur.com/VHfh5

Stream A is now twitch.tv/orbtl

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Hard Link: http://i.imgur.com/iQcsC.jpg

First map: Coin flip for selection after veto

Groups: http://i.imgur.com/LWunB.jpg

Current Main Event Prize Pool: $400

Main Event: Oct 13th/14th

Oct 13th Groups A-D: 12:00 PT, 15:00 ET

Oct 13th Groups E-H: 16:00 PT, 19:00 ET

Oct 14th Bracket: 12:00 PT, 15:00 ET

To Donate: WhalesFromSpace@gmail.com

I am hosting a community based tournament to facilitate both a unique viewer experience, and the promotion of player streams. The unique parameters of this tournament are that viewers influence, through voting, the map pool and the player invites: Also, all participating players stream their perspective (and are allowed to run ads and keep all revenue).

I have designed a structure such that community member may assume roles of casters, admins, and (of course) players. In addition to the invites that are influenced by the community polls, there are 3 qualification events. This design is detailed; created by assimilating the formats of the best leagues/tournaments, and with the legitimate intent to facilitate a great user experience, in terms of both the capacity to govern significant tournament parameters, and viewership in general. The rest of this thread will convey my design to you, and should provide clear information in regards to any method of involvement.

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Notes (about reserved spots and confirmed invites):
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-If AxCrank or Liquid'TLO do not confirm their pending invites (both have requested time for schedule verification), then an invite will be extended to ROOTPuck.
-If both AxCrank and Liquid'TLO do not confirm their pending invites, then an invite will be extended to ROOTPuck, RootMajOr will take the other voted slot and a new direct invite will be sent.
-Note that Harstem was invited from the reddit thread due to inadequate vote counts in the first TL poll.
-Note that CombatEX has agreed to play under conditions that 100% guarantee that cheating is not possible.
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--#1: There will be a 5 minute stream delay on the caster streams
--#2: A webcam will be placed in his room to reveal that there is no secondary monitor within his vision.
--#3: He will be forced to use speakers instead of a headset, such that he cannot deny skype from interfacing with the headset and receive auditory advice undetectable by stream viewers. Any voice that occurs over the speakers would be audible in his mic. Yes this will lower the production value of CombatEX's stream but he must make this trade-off to compete.
--#4: He must request to pause.
--#5: He may not spam chat in game (subjective enforcement).
Streaming his own perspective clearly negates the capacity to hack (which he isn't even known for)

Player Pool

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Direct Invites
1. EG.iNcontroLRC
2. Empire.Beastyqt
3. ROOTSlush
4. / MorroW
5. 4Not|Xenocider
6. SsonLighT
7. d.KiLLeR
8. EGLzGamer
9. giX
10. QuanticHawk
11. QuanticApocalypse
12. Jemag
Community Choice
13. Wonkman (TL Vote #1)
14. okArchaic (TL Vote #1)
15. GoSuHwangSin (TL Vote #1; Replaces Harstem)
16. ROOTMajOr (r/sc Vote #1)
17. CombatEX (r/sc Vote #1; See notes below)
18. ROOTPuCK (r/sc Vote #1)
19. 4Not|MaSsan (r/sc Vote #2)
20. MxGRemarK (r/sc Vote #2)
21. LgNTheory (r/sc Vote #2)
22. Destiny (saw invite late: r/sc Vote #1)
23. Ketroc (TL Vote #2)
24. Gaulzi (TL Vote #2)
Qualified Players:
25. BOT.Schnieder
26. LgNJimRising
27. SuperHero
28. coL.Fuzzy
29. iMpEnder
30. KnowMe
31. GoSudde
32. Honeybear

Notes:
-If AxCrank or Liquid'TLO do not confirm their pending invites (both have requested time for schedule verification), then an invite will be extended to ROOTPuck.
-If both AxCrank and Liquid'TLO do not confirm their pending invites, then an invite will be extended to ROOTPuck, RootMajOr will take the other voted slot and a new direct invite will be sent.
-Note that Harstem was invited from the reddit thread due to inadequate vote counts in the first TL poll.
-Note that CombatEX has agreed to play under conditions that 100% guarantee that cheating is not possible.
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#1: There will be a 5 minute stream delay on the caster streams
#2: A webcam will be placed in his room to reveal that there is no secondary monitor within his vision.
#3: He will be forced to use speakers instead of a headset, such that he cannot deny skype from interfacing with the headset and receive auditory advice undetectable by stream viewers. Any voice that occurs over the speakers would be audible in his mic. Yes this will lower the production value of CombatEX's stream but he must make this trade-off to compete.
#4: He must request to pause.
#5: He may not spam chat in game (subjective enforcement).
Streaming his own perspective clearly negates the capacity to hack (which he isn't even known for)
-Destiny saw the invite from the first r/starcraft thread but since the overall thread count was reduced it is reasonable to allocate 2 slots to the final TL player poll (as they suffer from minimal particiaption) and allocate a seed to this player; who recieved more upvotes than the other players from the first r/starcraft thread.

If you are wondering about how the "Community Choice" invites work, refer to the "Community" section of this thread.

If you are wondering about how to participate in a qualifier, reference that section.

Map Pool

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1. GSL Daybreak
2. ESV Ohana
3. ESV Cloud Kingdom
4. GSL Whirlwind (TL.net Map Poll #1)
5. ESV Muspelheim (TL.net Map Poll #2)
6. Astro Haze (TL.net Map Poll #3)
7. GSL Abyssal City (r/sc Map Thread)
8. GSL Emtombed Valley (r/sc.Map Thread)
9. Belshir Walterways (r/sc Map Thread)

Map rules are outlined in a graphic towards the end of this section.

The comprehensive guide to the main event format is in graphical form, here:
1920x1080: http://i.imgur.com/Ulu6m.jpg

Note: The bracket stage facilitates both double elimination (for the players ranking 1st or 2nd in their groups), and a distinct 1st-4th place, for which cash prizes will be allocated.

Note: NA Server; but players from all regions are welcome.

Prize Distribution:

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Current Main Event Prize Pool = $400

Day 1:
40% = 5% x 8 Group Winners

Day 2:
30% = 1st Place Bracket Stage
15% = 2nd Place Bracket Stage
10% = 3rd Place Bracket Stage
5% = 4th Place Bracket Stage
(Total 60% allocated towards Bracket Stage)

With an ideal prize pool of $500, it would look like this:

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Day 1:
$200 = $25 x 8 Group Winners

Day 2:
$150 = 1st Place
$75 = 2nd Place
$50 = 3rd Place
$25 = 4th Place

Main Event specific rules (including check-in times) for players and casters are available here:
1920x1080: http://i.imgur.com/3zVrE.jpg
Note: Map pool logistics are also outlined in the above link.

The comprehensive guide to the main event production format is in graphical form, here:
1920x1080: http://i.imgur.com/iTwNY.jpg

Caster Streams:

Stream A: twitch.tv/orbtl
Casters: SpaceWhales & Orb + Guests!
Observer: SpaceWhales
Admins: TheOmega + KimboSlice

Stream B: http://www.twitch.tv/quanticlaughingman
Casters: QuanticLaughingMan & ???
Observer: QuanticLaughingMan
Admin: ???

Stream C: twitch.tv/theabraxas
Casters:
Observer:
Admin: ???

Stream D: http://www.twitch.tv/scmothership
Casters: SCMothership + SCInfestor
Observer: SCMothership
Admin: ???

Open Coverage Streams/Casters:
???

To host a stream or be a caster, email WhalesFromSpace@gmail.com.
Note: Unreasonably awful emails will be responded to with a picture of Kimbo Slice.
Note: Caster streams will implement a 5 minute stream delay.

This streaming format facilitates a multitude of options for the viewer in regards to their tournament experience. If particular casters, or observation work is infringing on the viewer's capacity to enjoy the game, they can switch the the play perspective of who they are rooting for, or even select one of the other 3+ matches being streamed in parallel. Open Coverage allows newer or unknown casters to present high level games and recieve feedback from a live scenario. This design results in all matches being broadcast, and offers 3 ways to interface with each match. The schedule for the broadcasting of the double-elimination bracket was verified as smooth for live presentation in my previous event (Space Whales Super Showdown: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334263)

Main Qualifier:

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Date: Saturday, Oct 6th, 13:00 PT (1 PM) / 16:00 ET (4 PM)

A 32-player, single elimination qualifier with a $100 prize pool will occur, in which the top 4 players qualify for the Main Event.

The format is a simple bracket with best of 3's until the final round, which is a best of 5.

Map pool and map rules will be the same as that of the main event.

Players must stream their participation in this qualifier.

Players must be of Diamond, Masters, or Grand Masters to register.

To register, post here or email WhalesFromSpace@gmail.com:
Subject: Main Qualifier
B.Net ID w/ Code:
TL Embedded Stream Link:
Rank:
Email Contact:

Note: Feel free to register for the Main qualifier, and participate in the open qualifiers: If you register, then qualify before this tournament, it will be no problem.

Prize Distribution:
1st. $75 + Main Event Entry
2nd. $25 + Main Event Entry
3rd/4th. Main Event Entry

This tournament will be cast by up to 4 streams, if you wish to help with the coverage of this qualifier, email WhalesFromSpace@gmail.com.

Current Player Pool:
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Resq
TOdesKampf
StealthyPoo
JonSnow
Bourne
MxG.RemarK
cVoNinja
Echoic
areaLilky
ELVIS
SCMothership
cMotoK
PulseEverize
LgNTheoRy
Schnieder
LgNJimRising
coLFuzzy
AltWebz
Rnaged
Superhero
*12 spots remain!

Open Qualifiers:

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Players ARE NOT required to stream during open qualifiers. The players here must only stream if they qualify for the main event. Please do not register in these qualifiers if you do not have the capacity to stream in the Main Event.

Open Qualifier 1:
Date: Tuesday, Oct 2nd, 16:00 PT (4 PM) / 19:00 ET (7 PM) -> 19:00 PT (7 PM) / 22:00 ET (10 PM)
Link: http://playhem.com/#!/tourney/25482
Top 2 Qualify for Main Event.
1st place will be invited to a show match on a later date (w/ $$$ prize).

Open Qualifier 2:
Date: Sunday, Oct 7th, 13:00 PT (1 PM) / 16:00 ET (4 PM)
Link: http://playhem.com/#!/tourney/25483
Top 2 Qualify for Main Event.
1st place will be invited to a show match on a later date (w/ $$$ prize).

Format:
All best of 3's until the final, which is a best of 5.
Single Elimination.

Map Pool:
ESV Ohana
ESV Cloud Kingdom
GSL Daybreak
GSL Entombed Valley
GSL Metropolis

Note: First map is predetermined, loser picks next map.

The following graphic conveys roles accessible by the community, and also offers some context to the subsequent voting section:
1920x1080: http://i.imgur.com/jdil3.jpg

The best way to contact me about being involved is to post in this thread, or email me.

In my previous events community members have helped increase the quality of player pool, and event exposure, through donations: If you want to contribute to the prize pool, the following email address is also my paypal account.

WhalesFromSpace@gmail.com

100% of donations go into the prize pool.

For some context to the polls, please reference graphic linked in the above section.

Voting Format:

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Team Liquid:
Players post, or are nominated by a fan post, for inclusion in the poll system. Only one instance of nomination is required for conclusion in each poll (or until the player is voted into participation). Polls will be posted for ~24 hours, and at the end of the duration invites will be sent out in order of highest voted for players, until 3 players accept invitation into the Main Event.

If you are nominating a player, or posting in request to be included in the poll, please use this format:

Include in Player Poll:
Bnet.ID:
Stream Link:

This will make it much easier for me to create the polls.

reddit/r/starcraft:
Players post, or are nominated, by comments in specific threads allocated towards player voting. The upvotes will be recorded ~24 hours after a thread is created: Invites will be sent out in order of highest voted for players, until 3 players accept invitation into the Main Event. Do note that a comment will have to be made each time a thread pops up, even if it is a recurring instance of poll participation.

Note: The change was made for 3 players to be included per poll; this was because of the delays associated in player contact (for example many took 2-3 days to respond).

TeamLiquid.net Player Poll #1 Now Closed
Link: http://kwiksurveys.com/app/showpoll.asp?sid=g9u1svbvkvn4c9c25871&qid=25871&new=True
Note: I did not use a TeamLiquid.net forum poll because the max is 12 options.
Note: Of the players that had more than 3 votes each, only 2 accepted invitation (Drewbie and CatZ did not respond). So, I allocated the 3rd player spot to the r/sc thread; as it recieved over 10x the participation.

TeamLiquid.net Player Poll #2 Now Closed
http://kwiksurveys.com/app/showpoll.asp?qid=31081&sid=6lczge7qihaqzu331081&new=True
-2 players invited via this poll

reddit.com/r/starcraft Player Poll #1 Now Closed:
Link: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/10pgym/first_rstarcraft_thread_for_streamers_community/
Note: A fourth player was added from this poll due to the minimal participation on the TL platform.

Reddit Player Thread #1 Results:
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114 Grubby (No response)
93 Crank (Pending)
75 TLO (Pending)
68 DeMusliM (No response)
62 Destiny
61 Thorzain (ASUS Invitational)
55 Scarlett (Requires internet upgrade)
54 CombatEx (Accepts)
53 WhiteRa (Cannot play on NA server)
50 Harstem
45 CatZ (No response)
44 d.Apollo (ASUS ROG Invitational Caster)
36 Suppy (UC Berkley LAN)
35 puCK
34 MajOr
31 qxc (WCG USA)
31 minigun (WCG USA)
31 Stephano (ASUS ROG)
29 Sase
26 Lucifron (ASUS ROG)
24 Rooterdam
22 Dimaga
21 Snute
18 Wonkman
17 BabyKnight
14 Feast
14 Desrow
13 Sasquatch
11 Axslav
11 Nerchio
11 Nony
10 Sson
10 Idra
9 Vortix
7 Trimaster
7 Filter
6 Nathanias
6 Ketroc
5 Pyre
5 LastShadow
5 Cheticus
4 gaulzi
4 Moonglade
4 Trump
4 Elfi
3 Shew
3 Ruff
2 SaroVati
2 tumescentpie
1 SeoHyeon

reddit.com/r/starcraft Player Poll #2 closed!
Link: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1167qp/final_player_voting_thread_for_streamers/
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RemarK
Theory
MaSsan

reddit.com/r/starcraft Map Poll (3 maps total!) closed!
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1168xm/map_voting_thread_for_the_streamers_community/
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GSL Abyssal City
GSL Entombed Valley
Belshir Waterways

TeamLiquid.net Map Poll #1 (Closed: Whirlwind):
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Poll: 4 Player Macro-Based Map

Whirlwind (43)

49%

Metropolis (19)

22%

Entombed Valley (13)

15%

Taldarim Altar (5)

6%

Condemned Ridge (4)

5%

Shakuras Plateau (3)

3%

87 total votes

Your vote: 4 Player Macro-Based Map

(Vote): Metropolis
(Vote): Whirlwind
(Vote): Shakuras Plateau
(Vote): Entombed Valley
(Vote): Condemned Ridge
(Vote): Taldarim Altar

TeamLiquid.net Map Poll #2 (Closed: ESV Muspelheim):
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Poll: 2 Spawn Maps

ESV Muspelheim (35)

50%

GSL Abyssal City (22)

31%

GSL Grand Lagoon (6)

9%

GSL Antiga Shipyard (Cross Only) (4)

6%

None of these (take top 2 from 1st poll) (3)

4%

70 total votes

Your vote: 2 Spawn Maps

(Vote): ESV Muspelheim
(Vote): GSL Grand Lagoon
(Vote): GSL Abyssal City
(Vote): GSL Antiga Shipyard (Cross Only)
(Vote): None of these (take top 2 from 1st poll)

TeamLiquid.net Map Poll #3 (Closed: Astro Haze):
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1. Rust In Peace [Timmay]
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2. Bel'Shir Waterways [GDR]
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3. Wightbane Gorge [NewSunshine]
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4. TPW Breaking Point [Mereel]
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5. Astro Haze [Samro]
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Poll: TL MOTM Community Maps

Astro Haze (34)

36%

Bel'Shir Waterways (25)

27%

TPW Breaking Point (17)

18%

Wightbane Gorge (10)

11%

Rust In Peace (8)

9%

94 total votes

Your vote: TL MOTM Community Maps

(Vote): Rust In Peace
(Vote): Bel'Shir Waterways
(Vote): Wightbane Gorge
(Vote): TPW Breaking Point
(Vote): Astro Haze

I hope together we can make this a really fun time

thesoleone

United States8 Posts

September 30 2012 10:33 GMT

w00t, LETS DO THIS~!

roym899

Germany426 Posts

September 30 2012 12:03 GMT

What if a player can't stream because he doesn't have enough bandwidth to do so? Is he not allowed to participate?

cchily13

70 Posts

September 30 2012 12:47 GMT

If you need stream mods I could probably help, and this looks like a great idea for a tournament. Hopefully some good streamers will get more recognition!!

MisterTea

United Kingdom1047 Posts

September 30 2012 12:48 GMT

On September 30 2012 21:03 roym899 wrote:
What if a player can't stream because he doesn't have enough bandwidth to do so? Is he not allowed to participate?

well the whole thing is about promoting player streams so..

WcOwl

United States8 Posts

September 30 2012 12:52 GMT

time to get promoted and enter. glgl

ReachTheSky

United States3294 Posts

September 30 2012 13:07 GMT

Definitely need to make a rule about having a stream delay to prevent stream cheating

SEA KarMa

Australia452 Posts

September 30 2012 13:52 GMT

Stream delays should be a must here if we are promoting it, don't want to give it a bad impression by immediately showing signs of stream cheating.

Arun

United States56 Posts

September 30 2012 15:00 GMT

The tournament of tournaments ~ Pumped!

MarinePrince

United States101 Posts

September 30 2012 15:06 GMT

#10

Let's do it!! I'm stoked!

MrMongo

Germany64 Posts

September 30 2012 15:39 GMT

#11

We had several discussion on mappool sizes. Wasn't the result that it always came down to: too many maps, 5 or just 4 would be enough. I'd rather see one combined poll for 4 maps. I think 9 maps is way over the top.

Other than that, I think it's a nice idea. Good Luck and hope it turns out great.

Akira_fn

Denmark23 Posts

September 30 2012 16:01 GMT

#12

So i can just nominate a player i would like to see in the tournament in this thread?

Gofarman

Canada645 Posts

September 30 2012 16:24 GMT

#13

Include in Player Poll: okArchaic
Bnet.ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1196262/1/Archaic/
Stream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/okarchaic

Include in Player Poll: Andro
Bnet.ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/346390/1/Andro/
Stream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/omniandro

Include in Player Poll: cSarovati
Bnet.ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/694288/1/areaSaroVati/
Stream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/sarovati

Include in Player Poll: cKC
Bnet.ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1243048/1/IlIlIlIlIlIl/
Stream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/kcamarta

Hope we are allowed to post more then one. :D

Akira_fn

Denmark23 Posts

September 30 2012 16:45 GMT

#14

If this is the place to do it, I would love to nominate for the player poll: Wonkman !

Bnet.ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/462581/1/wonkman/
Stream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/wonkman

Great initiative. Hope we get to see some cool new players from the community!

iamcaustic

Canada1509 Posts

September 30 2012 17:52 GMT

#15

My favourite part about this tournament is the voting for MOTM maps to be put into the map pool.

If they end up playing well in a tournament format, we might finally see an update to the excruciatingly stagnant tournament pools.

sWs

United States409 Posts

September 30 2012 18:05 GMT

#16

excited for this

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

September 30 2012 19:42 GMT

#17

First donation received: Prize pool for the main event is now $300

ARedShell

United States1 Post

September 30 2012 19:49 GMT

#18

Include in Player Poll: Nathanias
BNet.ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/292941/1/Nathanias/
Stream Link: Twitch.tv/nathanias

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

September 30 2012 20:34 GMT

#19

On October 01 2012 00:39 MrMongo wrote:
We had several discussion on mappool sizes. Wasn't the result that it always came down to: too many maps, 5 or just 4 would be enough. I'd rather see one combined poll for 4 maps. I think 9 maps is way over the top.

Other than that, I think it's a nice idea. Good Luck and hope it turns out great.

I see your points and considered this perspective when designing the community interaction parameter. I feel that using the conventional quantity of 5 maps would result in a generic tournament map pool with maybe 1 unexpected addition. I chose 9 maps because it facilitates, along with diversity and increased community interaction, a best of 7 in which each player vetos a map. Note that for every round, players each veto a map from the series. This should allow players with a distaste for new map experimentation, or general discomfort with a specific option, the chance to eliminate it from their tournament experience. I expect to get 7 standard tournament maps along with 2 community made maps.

It is clearly a trade-off, so I went for the less conventional approach to cater towards the unique parameters of the tournament.

MrMongo

Germany64 Posts

September 30 2012 20:47 GMT

#20

On October 01 2012 05:34 WhalesFromSpace wrote:

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I can follow your reasoning as it's a smaller tournament. The post was more my personal dislike with the bigger mappools in bigger tournaments (I really wouldn't mind only 3-4 maps at major tournaments). Looking forward to see that little project of yours unfold.

Admiral Adama

United States186 Posts

October 01 2012 00:07 GMT

#21

Include in Player Poll: cKC
Bnet.ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1243048/1/IlIlIlIlIlIl/
Stream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/kcamarta

Include in Player Poll: cShew
Bnet.ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3297449/1/bbShew/
Stream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/shew_tv

Include in Player Poll: cMercy
Bnet.ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3668099/1/cMercy/
Stream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/clashmercy

Include in Player Poll: cKatu
Bnet.ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3301503/1/Katu/
Stream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/KatuStarcraft

Ketroc

Canada74 Posts

October 01 2012 01:19 GMT

#22

Include in Player Poll: Ketroc
BNet.ID: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/346730/1/Ketroc/
Stream Link: twitch.tv/ketroc

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 01 2012 01:50 GMT

#23

Ok, I have documented everyone thus far in regards to qualification and poll inclusion.

The first 3 direct invites are ready for announcement:
EG.iNcontroLRC
Empire.Beastyqt
ROOT.Slush

The first r/starcraft player thread will close in apprx 12 hours, and I will begin working on those invites.
I am very excited for the qualifiers as well, some great players have registered :D

Kyhol

Canada2574 Posts

October 01 2012 01:59 GMT

#24

Interesting tournament concept.

packrat386

United States5077 Posts

October 01 2012 03:45 GMT

#25

Include players in Poll
- IdrA: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/600_IdrA
- HuK:http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1598_HuK
- qxc: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1596_FXO.qxc
- SaSe:http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2169_SaSe
- Naniwa: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1614_NaNiwa
- minigun: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2276_Minigun
- Grubby: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2159_Grubby

Thanks

robhoward

79 Posts

October 01 2012 10:37 GMT

#26

Are those directly invited players just those that have been asked and invited or have they confirmed they will participate?

PulseAnatares

Canada4 Posts

October 01 2012 10:37 GMT

#27

What about delay server? With a tournament format that focuses mainly on player streams streamcheating could be a major issue. Would the use of a delay server on player streams be encouraged or enforced? Or would real-time streaming be mandatory? Thanks.

y0su

Finland7871 Posts

October 01 2012 11:00 GMT

#28

One of my favorite streamers: FUZER

Include in Player Poll: Fuzer
Bnet.ID: unknown (will advise him to contact you)
Stream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/fuzer

edit:

On October 01 2012 19:37 PulseAnatares wrote:
What about delay server? With a tournament format that focuses mainly on player streams streamcheating could be a major issue. Would the use of a delay server on player streams be encouraged or enforced? Or would real-time streaming be mandatory? Thanks.

With every player streaming it should make it somewhat difficult to hide if you are stream cheating (yes, still possible). Most players that play at tournament levels know the risk of getting caught stream cheating isn't worth it.

Coeus1

Finland160 Posts

October 01 2012 12:35 GMT

#29

I'm wondering why so many streams. 4 streams plus player streams? This kind of tournament gets only hundreds to few thousand concurrent viewers. Getting four sets of casters just sounds excessive.

It is my opinion that you should start with something small and grow it over time instead of going straight to this complex thing. Hope you pull it off though!

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 01 2012 16:34 GMT

#30

On October 01 2012 19:37 robhoward wrote:
Are those directly invited players just those that have been asked and invited or have they confirmed they will participate?

They are confirmed for participation

Players can use a delay server if they want, if the player doesn't feel comfortable streaming in real-time, then a slight delay could be applied, but anything over a couple minutes would hinder production.

On October 01 2012 21:35 Coeus1 wrote:
I'm wondering why so many streams. 4 streams plus player streams? This kind of tournament gets only hundreds to few thousand concurrent viewers. Getting four sets of casters just sounds excessive.

It is my opinion that you should start with something small and grow it over time instead of going straight to this complex thing. Hope you pull it off though!

I like every series to be covered by the production of the stream; my format facilitates this. As you mentioned building up from a foundation would be ideal to verify the functionality of this production design: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334263.
Note the similarities in the bracket stages, and how those matches were broadcast with 4 streams.

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 01 2012 16:56 GMT

#31

Reddit Player Thread #1 Results:

+ Show Spoiler +

114 Grubby
93 Crank
75 TLO
68 DeMusliM
62 Destiny
61 Thorzain
55 Scarlett
54 CombatEx
53 WhiteRa
50 Harstem
45 CatZ
44 d.Apollo
36 Suppy
35 puCK
34 MajOr
31 qxc
31 minigun
31 Stephano
29 Sase
26 Lucifron
24 Rooterdam
22 Dimaga
21 Snute
18 Wonkman
17 BabyKnight
14 Feast
14 Desrow
13 Sasquatch
11 Axslav
11 Nerchio
11 Nony
10 Sson
10 Idra
9 Vortix
7 Trimaster
7 Filter
6 Nathanias
6 Ketroc
5 Pyre
5 LastShadow
5 Cheticus
4 gaulzi
4 Moonglade
4 Trump
4 Elfi
3 Shew
3 Ruff
2 SaroVati
2 tumescentpie
1 SeoHyeon

I will be working on these invites; going down the list until 2 accept.

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 01 2012 16:59 GMT

#32

On October 01 2012 12:45 packrat386 wrote:
Include players in Poll
- IdrA: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/600_IdrA
- HuK:http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1598_HuK
- qxc: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1596_FXO.qxc
- SaSe:http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2169_SaSe
- Naniwa: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1614_NaNiwa
- minigun: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2276_Minigun
- Grubby: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2159_Grubby

Thanks

qxc is playing in WCG USA and minigun has personal plans. Also, since grubby was the top of the r/starcraft thread, he does not need to be included in the next poll. I will add the others though; they are quite demanding in terms of prize pool.

cchily13

70 Posts

October 01 2012 20:05 GMT

#33

I would love to see Drewbie in this!!
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1625_Drewbie

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 01 2012 20:48 GMT

#34

Alright the first TL player poll is up; vote here:
http://kwiksurveys.com/app/showpoll.asp?sid=g9u1svbvkvn4c9c25871&qid=25871&new=True

Let me know if I missed anyone; I also recieved some nominations via PM and email.
Overall it seems like there are a few top names that may not be attracted by the prize pool, but I am excited to see who you guys pick from this list. Once again I will be inviting players in order of the most votes, until 2 players accept invitation

Note: Poll Closes in ~24 hours.

robhoward

79 Posts

October 01 2012 22:26 GMT

#35

On October 02 2012 01:34 WhalesFromSpace wrote:

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They are confirmed for participation

Wow. This is shaping up nicely.

SCInfestor

United States61 Posts

October 01 2012 22:29 GMT

#36

Roughly when will the tournament be held? And when will caster applicants be notified if they are accepted? My partner and I emailed you yesterday, and I was curious to see when this would be held so I can plan accordingly. Thanks!

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 01 2012 22:34 GMT

#37

On October 02 2012 07:29 SCInfestor wrote:
Roughly when will the tournament be held? And when will caster applicants be notified if they are accepted? My partner and I emailed you yesterday, and I was curious to see when this would be held so I can plan accordingly. Thanks!

All the dates are there. I don't have an email from you, I just double checked :S. I have responded to everything so far; WhalesFromSpace@gmail.com or if it doesn't work again you can PM me here on TL.

Semmo

Korea (South)627 Posts

October 02 2012 05:53 GMT

#38

Hi. Do you know where is the /r/starcraft reddit map poll? I'd like to submit (?) Fruitland in the poll.

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 02 2012 06:38 GMT

#39

On October 02 2012 14:53 Semmo wrote:
Hi. Do you know where is the /r/starcraft reddit map poll? I'd like to submit (?) Fruitland in the poll.

I am happy you want to have your map in the poll. It won't be around until a couple of days from now, so I will post the link when it is created (then you comment in the thread with your map and maybe a picture!).

SCInfestor

United States61 Posts

October 02 2012 16:05 GMT

#40

On October 02 2012 07:34 WhalesFromSpace wrote:

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Oh maybe the email was sent to whaleinspace or somethig lol. Or wrong email website. I'll tell my friend and he will re-send it. Thanks and sorry for that haha.
Darn iPod autocorrect made this message take forever to type :c

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 02 2012 21:22 GMT

#41

Qualifier 1 start time delayed 3 hours. Chat channel: SCCQ1

SCMothership

United States187 Posts

October 03 2012 03:29 GMT

#42

---placeholder---

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 03 2012 21:22 GMT

#43

Some new updates and invites to be announced soon. There is a bit of delay from the reddit invites because of players working out their schedules so please be patient :D

Samro225am

Germany982 Posts

October 05 2012 17:15 GMT

#44

1. GSL Daybreak
2. ESV Ohana
3. ESV Cloud Kingdom
4. GSL Whirlwind (TL.net Map Poll #1)
5. ESV Muspelheim (TL.net Map Poll #2)
6. Astro Haze (TL.net Map Poll #3)
7. ??? (r/sc Map Thread)
8. ??? (r/sc.Map Thread)
9. ??? (r/sc Map Thread)

Very happy, thanks for giving custom maps / motm exposure and i am glad astro haze made it through the poll!

Laughing_Man

Australia32 Posts

October 06 2012 16:52 GMT

#45

Can't wait to cast this! :D so keen! <3

RaNgeD

United States733 Posts

October 06 2012 17:37 GMT

#46

Is this starting right now, or was it delayed?

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 06 2012 17:52 GMT

#47

On October 07 2012 02:37 RaNgeD wrote:
Is this starting right now, or was it delayed?

1 PM PT, so in just over 2 hours

SCMothership

United States187 Posts

October 06 2012 19:43 GMT

#48

Let's get pumped! 20 minutes 'til and I'm excited to cast!

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 06 2012 20:03 GMT

#49

Bracket http://challonge.com/sccmq/

Unkown User Request

United States26 Posts

October 06 2012 20:26 GMT

#50

--- Nuked ---

vinsang1000

Belgium365 Posts

October 06 2012 21:04 GMT

#51

20$ more for the prizepool

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 06 2012 22:37 GMT

#52

Finals of Main Qualifier starting now: JimRising vs Schnieder!

RaNgeD

United States733 Posts

October 06 2012 23:18 GMT

#53

Sorry guys, my internet went out and I missed it

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 07 2012 00:11 GMT

#54

On October 07 2012 08:18 RaNgeD wrote:
Sorry guys, my internet went out and I missed it

There is another qualifier tomorrow; no prize but top 2 make the main event: http://playhem.com/tourney/25483

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 07 2012 00:16 GMT

#55

On October 07 2012 06:04 vinsang1000 wrote:
20$ more for the prizepool

Thanks! Some more exciting announcements coming tonight

Semmo

Korea (South)627 Posts

October 07 2012 14:34 GMT

#56

Uh, so I'm guessing you're not adding additional maps? That sux :/

TMiweedamins

United States51 Posts

October 07 2012 18:23 GMT

#57

I can't wait to play in the tournament

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 07 2012 19:26 GMT

#58

On October 07 2012 23:34 Semmo wrote:
Uh, so I'm guessing you're not adding additional maps? That sux :/

Yes more maps; poll will start today.

SilSol

Sweden2744 Posts

October 07 2012 19:30 GMT

#59

gogo MorroW!<3

Samro225am

Germany982 Posts

October 07 2012 19:31 GMT

#60

last night there was a problem with NA version of Astro Haze due to editor dependancies that changes with patch 1.5.3. While we were able to solve that issue in time for the quarterfinals in the map of the month it was already to late for this tournament. i think it will get used in the main event. apologies for the issue.

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 07 2012 19:35 GMT

#61

On October 08 2012 04:31 Samro225am wrote:
last night there was a problem with NA version of Astro Haze due to editor dependancies that changes with patch 1.5.3. While we were able to solve that issue in time for the quarterfinals in the map of the month it was already to late for this tournament. i think it will get used in the main event. apologies for the issue.

Yup; it is all good! We will still use Astro Haze in the main event

On another note I am worried about the log-in issue which could effect today's open qualifier.

JonSnow

United States67 Posts

October 07 2012 19:58 GMT

#62

On October 08 2012 04:35 WhalesFromSpace wrote:

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Yup; it is all good! We will still use Astro Haze in the main event

On another note I am worried about the log-in issue which could effect today's open qualifier.

Yeah, i am having that problem right now can't log in for this qualifier. Hope it is resolved before it starts.

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 07 2012 20:01 GMT

#63

On October 08 2012 04:58 JonSnow wrote:

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Yeah, i am having that problem right now can't log in for this qualifier. Hope it is resolved before it starts.

I think I will be rescheduling it; but adding a prize pool to account for the inconvenience

JonSnow

United States67 Posts

October 07 2012 20:06 GMT

#64

On October 08 2012 05:01 WhalesFromSpace wrote:

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I think I will be rescheduling it; but adding a prize pool to account for the inconvenience

Just logged in, Blizzard might have fixed it.

Honeybear21

149 Posts

October 07 2012 20:10 GMT

#65

Are you going to reschedule? people on my team are being randomly d/ced after they barely log in.

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 07 2012 20:11 GMT

#66

On October 08 2012 05:10 Honeybear21 wrote:
Are you going to reschedule? people on my team are being randomly d/ced after they barely log in.

I want to but I can't figure out how to stop the tourney on playhem.

Honeybear21

149 Posts

October 07 2012 20:13 GMT

#67

Cancel it completely. remake the event for a later date. post here and in screddit about the cancellation and reschedule. if you cant cancel it still do part 2 3 and 4 :D

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 07 2012 20:15 GMT

#68

On October 08 2012 05:13 Honeybear21 wrote:
Cancel it completely. remake the event for a later date. post here and in screddit about the cancellation and reschedule. if you cant cancel it still do part 2 3 and 4 :D

Yup that is what we are going to do. Sorry to those involved, I will compensate with a prize for re-scheduling.

Honeybear21

149 Posts

October 07 2012 20:18 GMT

#69

awesome thanks!

JonSnow

United States67 Posts

October 07 2012 20:21 GMT

#70

On October 08 2012 05:15 WhalesFromSpace wrote:

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Yup that is what we are going to do. Sorry to those involved, I will compensate with a prize for re-scheduling.

Edit). Did not read above posts sorry.

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 07 2012 20:32 GMT

#71

Here is the rescheduled qualifier, now with $50 prize! http://playhem.com/#!/tourney/25689

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 07 2012 22:53 GMT

#72

Check-in for qualifier is live, going to stream at twitch.tv/spacewhales

EDIT: GoSu.dde has qualified for the main event.

Theory vs HoneyBear on twitch.tv/scmothership

Finals will be on twitch.tv/spacewhales

Diplomat

United States45 Posts

October 09 2012 02:07 GMT

#73

Love the mix of players in this tournament. Can't wait to watch!

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 09 2012 02:11 GMT

#74

Ok the reddit polls for players and maps are now up!
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1168xm/map_voting_thread_for_the_streamers_community/
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1167qp/final_player_voting_thread_for_streamers/

Also all the main event casting streams have been confirmed; Orb will be joining me on Stream A

Chewbaccaa

France29 Posts

October 09 2012 16:44 GMT

#75

Need [M]Dragon.

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 09 2012 19:16 GMT

#76

On October 10 2012 01:44 Chewbaccaa wrote:
Need [M]Dragon.

He told me he's only playing HoTS now so I am trying to set him up in a Bo7 vs WhiteRa to promote the main event

vinsang1000

Belgium365 Posts

October 09 2012 19:20 GMT

#77

On October 10 2012 04:16 WhalesFromSpace wrote:

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He told me he's only playing HoTS now so I am trying to set him up in a Bo7 vs WhiteRa to promote the main event

ohh. That would be fun !

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 09 2012 19:45 GMT

#78

On October 10 2012 04:20 vinsang1000 wrote:

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ohh. That would be fun !

Yeah it is not official yet, both have responded with interested in the match but I am looking to establish a time that works for myself and both players.

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 10 2012 21:06 GMT

#79

New updates coming tonight include:

-Final player poll opens (TL)
-PucK and Destiny have accepted community choice based invites!
-Results of the reddit map and player polls
-Hopefully showmatch announcement

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 11 2012 19:35 GMT

#80

http://kwiksurveys.com/app/showpoll.asp?qid=31081&sid=6lczge7qihaqzu331081&new=True is the last poll.
Groups and info packages will be taken care of tonight

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 12 2012 07:11 GMT

#81

Ketroc and

Gaulzi are the TL poll entries.

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 12 2012 15:09 GMT

#82

Groups posted; still finalizing the 2 last invites.

http://i.imgur.com/LWunB.jpg

Reddit Thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11dbxd/streamers_community_choice_groups_revealed_player/

Ender2701

United States581 Posts

October 12 2012 19:53 GMT

#83

Looks pretty cool! I'll be tuning in.

Nerchio

Poland2633 Posts

October 12 2012 20:03 GMT

#84

Have no fear, the Beast is here.

gaulzi

Iceland24 Posts

October 12 2012 20:33 GMT

#85

when is this stuff

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 12 2012 22:03 GMT

#86

On October 13 2012 05:33 gaulzi wrote:
when is this stuff

I pm you

Will your stream be back for the event?

-_-

United States7081 Posts

October 12 2012 22:36 GMT

#87

This is a really cool tournament.

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 12 2012 22:57 GMT

#88

Jemag and

giX fill the final 2 remaining slots! (Players from the Razer house).

GoSuHwangSin replaces

FnaticHarstem!

zelevin

United States252 Posts

October 13 2012 00:42 GMT

#89

LOL Why is LzGamer there?

SCMothership

United States187 Posts

October 13 2012 03:33 GMT

#90

On October 13 2012 09:42 zelevin wrote:
LOL Why is LzGamer there?

Why not?

KnowMe

Germany228 Posts

October 13 2012 15:13 GMT

#91

just making sure... thats 3 hours from now right?

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 13 2012 15:28 GMT

#92

On October 14 2012 00:13 ToT)KnowMe( wrote:
just making sure... thats 3 hours from now right?

3.5 hours from this post is start time for first set of groups.

KnowMe

Germany228 Posts

October 13 2012 15:43 GMT

#93

Metaltoss

France781 Posts

October 13 2012 17:45 GMT

#94

Have to post to check when 3.5 hours from this post is since I've been switching timezones a lot lately and don't know what my TL timezone is set to.

Disregard this post.

StarVe

Germany13591 Posts

October 13 2012 17:49 GMT

#95

On October 14 2012 02:45 Metaltoss wrote:
Have to post to check when 3.5 hours from this post is since I've been switching timezones a lot lately and don't know what my TL timezone is set to.

Disregard this post.

There's a clock in the top right.

Metaltoss

France781 Posts

October 13 2012 19:12 GMT

#96

On October 14 2012 02:49 StarVe wrote:

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There's a clock in the top right.

Been there for ages and I only notice it now.

Well, thanks.

Xoronius

Germany6362 Posts

October 13 2012 19:27 GMT

#97

What happened in the MorroW-KnowMe-game? Both are streaming, but KnowMe is playing a protoss and MorroW is playing HotS.

-_-

United States7081 Posts

October 13 2012 19:50 GMT

#98

fun to watch

zicoz

Norway212 Posts

October 13 2012 21:01 GMT

#99

What's happening in group c? The stream never went live it seems.

mememolly

4765 Posts

October 13 2012 21:12 GMT

#100

destiny owning it up

SilSol

Sweden2744 Posts

October 13 2012 21:13 GMT

#101

Destiny playing vs Beasty atm if im not wrong xd

nucLeaRTV

Romania822 Posts

October 13 2012 21:13 GMT

#102

So Sheth just said on Destiny's stream that he's also in this tournament. Is he one of the "???" direct invites? :D

SilSol

Sweden2744 Posts

October 13 2012 21:14 GMT

#103

On October 14 2012 06:13 nucLeaRTV wrote:
So Sheth just said on Destiny's stream that he's also in this tournament. Is he one of the "???" direct invites? :D

yeah i saw that also! Sheth's like "wait i'm in this tournament also"

StarVe

Germany13591 Posts

October 13 2012 21:44 GMT

#104

Are there results listed anywhere?

-_-

United States7081 Posts

October 13 2012 21:57 GMT

#105

On October 14 2012 06:44 StarVe wrote:
Are there results listed anywhere?

Dang, I can't find any either.

ydeer1993

United Kingdom569 Posts

October 13 2012 22:20 GMT

#106

incontrol and combatex in the same group lmao, cant wait

Greenei

Germany1754 Posts

October 13 2012 22:31 GMT

#107

when will combat play?

nikoYO

Germany131 Posts

October 13 2012 22:52 GMT

#108

this too confusing. i dont get it. i see no games. not cool!

nikoYO

Germany131 Posts

October 13 2012 22:58 GMT

#109

On October 14 2012 06:01 zicoz wrote:
What's happening in group c? The stream never went live it seems.

yeah where is it?

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

October 13 2012 23:08 GMT

#110

do we go to a channel or something?

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 13 2012 23:30 GMT

#111

On October 14 2012 08:08 iNcontroL wrote:
do we go to a channel or something?

SCCGroupE

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 13 2012 23:31 GMT

#112

On October 14 2012 07:58 nikoYO wrote:

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yeah where is it?

Caster went offline as event started and SsonLighT played in MLG qualifiers without notifying of conflict.

-_-

United States7081 Posts

October 13 2012 23:52 GMT

#113

On October 14 2012 08:31 WhalesFromSpace wrote:

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Caster went offline as event started and SsonLighT played in MLG qualifiers without notifying of conflict.

Is there a results page? Or can you post who has made it through up to now?

AlternativeEgo

Sweden17309 Posts

October 14 2012 00:08 GMT

#114

Well that was a fast one. A bit too fast for my taste.

Edit: Haha, iNc breaks the no BM clause in game two. Easy 2-0 win for him.

Tachion

Canada8573 Posts

October 14 2012 00:15 GMT

#115

This is hilarious

laLAlA[uC]

Canada963 Posts

October 14 2012 00:38 GMT

#116

So according to a post on facebook, Incontrol was DQ'd for having Huk play on his account? Can anyone confirm/deny?

fapy

Australia52 Posts

October 14 2012 00:40 GMT

#117

On October 14 2012 09:38 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
So according to a post on facebook, Incontrol was DQ'd for having Huk play on his account? Can anyone confirm/deny?

No, butt hurt CombatEX fans trying to "troll".

Tachion

Canada8573 Posts

October 14 2012 00:40 GMT

#118

On October 14 2012 09:38 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
So according to a post on facebook, Incontrol was DQ'd for having Huk play on his account? Can anyone confirm/deny?

AFAIK it's just people trolling the tourny people cause they were yelling for Incontrol to be disqualified for BMing combatex.

laLAlA[uC]

Canada963 Posts

October 14 2012 00:44 GMT

#119

Ah okay. Thanks (:

LimeNade

United States2125 Posts

October 14 2012 01:06 GMT

#120

lol y in the world is combatex allowed in any tournament? dude is a cancer in general to esports whether hes "turned over a new leaf" or not, dont buy it either way. He's been scum for so many years a few months of good behavior doesnt even begin to make up for him being a piece of crap of a human in esports

laLAlA[uC]

Canada963 Posts

October 14 2012 01:22 GMT

#121

On October 14 2012 10:06 LimeNade wrote:
lol y in the world is combatex allowed in any tournament? dude is a cancer in general to esports whether hes "turned over a new leaf" or not, dont buy it either way. He's been scum for so many years a few months of good behavior doesnt even begin to make up for him being a piece of crap of a human in esports

And judging by your words, you're much better.

MBH

Ireland796 Posts

October 14 2012 01:27 GMT

#122

What is this chat, Jesus...

Not very professional, props to Geoff for staying so calm.

PviLLe3

United States305 Posts

October 14 2012 01:29 GMT

#123

On October 14 2012 10:27 MBH wrote:
What is this chat, Jesus...

Not very professional, props to Geoff for staying so calm.

can we get cliffs for those of us who missed it please

edit* oh do umean the current chat with the admin? thought u meant the BM referenced in an earlier post

MBH

Ireland796 Posts

October 14 2012 01:32 GMT

#124

The current chat. Totally ridiculous.

LimeNade

United States2125 Posts

October 14 2012 01:34 GMT

#125

On October 14 2012 10:22 laLAlA[uC] wrote:

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And judging by your words, you're much better.

The fact you even stand up for him proves you probably just started getting into the starcraft scene the past year paying attention to who he is. Even if you have been around then you should have some idea of the horrid things he said/done. If not do your research on him over the past years and tell me you think someone like that should be allowed in tournaments ever. He is a cancer and anyone who has been paying attention to the starcraft scene for the past years would agree with everything I have said

DarkPlasmaBall

United States44136 Posts

October 14 2012 01:39 GMT

#126

On October 14 2012 10:22 laLAlA[uC] wrote:

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And judging by your words, you're much better.

I don't think you know who Combat-EX is.

But I'm not really surprised at the number of game refusals and drama that's going on here. Nice idea for a tournament, but it doesn't seem to be running too smoothly. There's way too much bullshit and over-the-top BM going on here- both in and out of the games.

But props to iNcontroL for putting up with this nonsense anyway:

+ Show Spoiler +

simmeh

Canada2511 Posts

October 14 2012 01:42 GMT

#127

what a joke

waste of time for incontrol, they are just f*cking around with him

HaveHearT

United States3 Posts

October 14 2012 01:43 GMT

#128

This tournament is a joke. So disorganized and so much downtime it's impossible to watch without wanting to shoot myself in the face. Spacewhales stream chat was getting trolled so hard and wasn't being modded at all while they read it on stream and laughed. Arguing with players about rules on stream instead of having a set of solid rules. It's to the point where I'm pretty sure they are excited about people watching them and thinking they are the cool kids in school. I would be surprised if any player of any value ever agreed to play in another one of your tournaments. Garbage.

Jdban

4 Posts

October 14 2012 01:49 GMT

#129

They just started a game while incontrol was alt tabbed...

Citna

United States3 Posts

October 14 2012 01:50 GMT

#130

I agree, this tournament is really disgusting. The organizer has no idea what he is doing and he should probably just never make a tournament again.

PviLLe3

United States305 Posts

October 14 2012 01:52 GMT

#131

why am i readin in chat that he 2-0'd him arldy but they are playin again?

Tamburlaine

Canada288 Posts

October 14 2012 01:52 GMT

#132

Jaysus Lord. Just popped on to Incontrol's stream to watch a quick game. What a clusterfuck.

On October 14 2012 10:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:

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Judging by the signature, I'd guess they do know each-other...

DarkPlasmaBall

United States44136 Posts

October 14 2012 01:57 GMT

#133

On October 14 2012 10:52 Tamburlaine wrote:
Jaysus Lord. Just popped on to Incontrol's stream to watch a quick game. What a clusterfuck.

Show nested quote +

Judging by the signature, I'd guess they do know each-other...

Yeah I see Waterloo... I meant Combat-EX's atrocious history and how he's been removed from the community, and appropriately so...

SCMothership

United States187 Posts

October 14 2012 02:08 GMT

#134

On October 14 2012 04:27 Xoronius wrote:
What happened in the MorroW-KnowMe-game? Both are streaming, but KnowMe is playing a protoss and MorroW is playing HotS.

MorroW dropped out because he thought it was a HotS tournament

Robson13

United Kingdom248 Posts

October 14 2012 02:08 GMT

#135

haha, Combatex with the premature BM

DarkPlasmaBall

United States44136 Posts

October 14 2012 02:09 GMT

#136

HAHAHAHAHA iNcontroL beats Combat-EX yet again ♥ So epic. And naturally, Combat-EX bms him in game, and then ragequits.

simmeh

Canada2511 Posts

October 14 2012 02:09 GMT

#137

incontrol up 3-0 now on combatex. reminds me of their showmatch

can we just get combatex out of this tourney? why let a notorious stream cheater into tourney's anyways, especially ones that are online that involve streaming

get that trash out of here

combatex saying early "bye" in that game on daybreak and then losing.
what a f*cking loser and idiot

RemarK

United States452 Posts

October 14 2012 02:13 GMT

#138

Results from Group G:

1st: ROOTSlush
2nd: ClassicRemarK
3rd: Dissonance (replacement player for QuanticHawk)
4th: Jemag (not sure his current team, his tag is xSixJemag and he is at Razer house with Mr. Bitter)

Some pretty good games, had a fun time playing and I'm looking forward to tomorrow.

Also, while I'm not up to date on what happened in iNc vs CombatEX, there's no reason to come here being hateful or insulting the tournament organizers. Mistakes happen, accept that and convey your dissatisfaction in a respectful and constructive manner.

MangoMountain

Norway2044 Posts

October 14 2012 02:20 GMT

#139

Please let this be the last we see of this clown, all the people who actually think combatex isn't a complete cyst in the armpit of stacraft only need to look at this series to see that this guy never changes

AssyrianKing

Australia2111 Posts

October 14 2012 02:24 GMT

#140

NO BREAKING POINT :O

LuckoftheIrish

United States4791 Posts

October 14 2012 02:24 GMT

#141

On October 14 2012 11:13 RemarK wrote:
Results from Group G:

1st: ROOTSlush
2nd: ClassicRemarK
3rd: Dissonance (replacement player for QuanticHawk)
4th: Jemag (not sure his current team, his tag is xSixJemag and he is at Razer house with Mr. Bitter)

Some pretty good games, had a fun time playing and I'm looking forward to tomorrow.

Also, while I'm not up to date on what happened in iNc vs CombatEX, there's no reason to come here being hateful or insulting the tournament organizers. Mistakes happen, accept that and convey your dissatisfaction in a respectful and constructive manner.

Other than a slightly hyperbolic call of 'garbage,' most of the issues people have raised are pretty reasonable problems to have. Why isn't there a concise, consistent set of rules? Why is Geoff playing Combat in the first round, anyway, and why is Combat even allowed in? Why is the chat left open and unmoderated? Why aren't issues between players and admins being discussed in private, and why do the admins seem completely clueless as to what the issues actually are? Why are games being started when players aren't ready? Why has it taken two hours to play a B-o-3? In short, who the hell is running this show and why are they doing it so poorly?

DarkPlasmaBall

United States44136 Posts

October 14 2012 02:31 GMT

#142

4-0 easy

What a joke.

simmeh

Canada2511 Posts

October 14 2012 02:32 GMT

#143

lol combat ex should not try multi pronged attack/harass... just ends up hurting himself. and he needs to take care of his observers

games vs combatex dont even qualify as practise for incontrol, just a waste of time

glad he's out of it.

incontrol wins 4-0 in a best of 3. admins were nice enough to give combat ex a free second chance

Tachion

Canada8573 Posts

October 14 2012 02:40 GMT

#144

Funniest part was Combatex trying to preemptive call the game and manner nexus and lost each time.

SKaysc

United States305 Posts

October 14 2012 02:44 GMT

#145

so glad to see incontrol 4-0 combatex, that guy does had terrible unit comp can't even capitalize on an advantage

JimRising

Mexico52 Posts

October 14 2012 02:46 GMT

#146

GROUPH second place

LgNJimRiSiNg 2-0 Puck
" " " " " " " " "" 2-1 Archaic
"""""""""""""""""" 0-2 dde

Rondariel

United Kingdom27 Posts

October 14 2012 02:46 GMT

#147

So where are the results. I could only watch a couple of games. Are there any brackets for this?

zicoz

Norway212 Posts

October 14 2012 02:47 GMT

#148

On October 14 2012 09:40 Tachion wrote:

Show nested quote +

AFAIK it's just people trolling the tourny people cause they were yelling for Incontrol to be disqualified for BMing combatex.

Look, there is trolling and then there is behaving like 8 year olds, this was without a doubt the later one.

But does anyone know what happened in Group c?

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 14 2012 06:12 GMT

#149

Brackets will be posted in the morning because my computer with photoshop blue-screened and I really need some sleep. The format indicates where players are playing based off of standings but I will have to fill it in tomorrow.

ooATTACKoo

Germany17 Posts

October 14 2012 11:46 GMT

#150

can someone add the results to this thread? I didn't find them in the WWW right now T.T

RemarK

United States452 Posts

October 14 2012 20:21 GMT

#151

feedback: each round should have a fixed starting map. It's pretty silly to have players flipping coins, as it gives one player a big advantage in that they get 2 map picks to their opponents 1 based on random luck.

FXOTheoRy

United States519 Posts

October 14 2012 20:47 GMT

#152

LzGamer > LgNTheoRy 2-0 WR1
LgNTheoRy > Dissonance 2-0 LR1

Xoronius

Germany6362 Posts

October 14 2012 20:53 GMT

#153

Knowme won his WR1 series against some zerg on stream, will now play killer, if killer shows up in the near future.

tribulator

774 Posts

October 14 2012 20:56 GMT

#154

Destiny 2-1 DDE WR1

RemarK

United States452 Posts

October 14 2012 21:13 GMT

#155

RemarK 1-2 HwangSin

RemarK 2-1 MasSan

LgNJimRising 2-0 CombatEX

Me and Jim are playing now ;;

tribulator

774 Posts

October 14 2012 21:40 GMT

#156

Slush 2 - 0 Destiny WR2

(wait, I think the series is supposed to be bo5, but they haven't played a third game?)

edit: Ok they're continuing the series after some confusion.

SCMothership

United States187 Posts

October 14 2012 21:40 GMT

#157

Destiny vs ROOTslush 0-2 slush wins

WhalesFromSpace

390 Posts

October 14 2012 22:27 GMT

#158

http://imgur.com/VHfh5 updated bracket for the tournament