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Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
September 30 2012 14:25 GMT
#41
Mass recall on the motherhip core is the same as the old recall, only the Mothership Core Recall abilitiy has been changed which is fine in my book.
Pokemon Master
CikaZombi
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia630 Posts
September 30 2012 14:36 GMT
#42
This is super freaking fun to watch. Finally some early pressure from Sgate going tosses. Ofc both players could have reacted better, but this actually seems a fun way to play and watch.
You can no more evade my wrath, than you could your own shadow.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 30 2012 14:39 GMT
#43
Fun start, nicely done by tod albeit some sloppiness from both sides but at least early PvZ is a little bit cooler.
Glorious SEA doto
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 30 2012 14:43 GMT
#44
I think watching hots tournaments and streams I don't like the swarm host :/ feels like brood lord late game but happens much earlier.
Glorious SEA doto
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
September 30 2012 14:45 GMT
#45
Swarm Host needs to be fixed to way shorter range, lower hp and more dmg. Perhaps off creep locust dies 3-4 times faster than in creep.
WinningGuy
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia53 Posts
September 30 2012 14:48 GMT
#46
My god Tod is a complainer, have some respect for the people you are playing against at least.

Bitching about the balance of a beta tournament...why even enter if you can't be nice.

He played awful, and then whines...how about not throwing away 3-4 phoenix's and several zealots in order to kill like...a few overlords.

Colossus aren't working... I know...I'll make a second robo

dumb dumb dumb dumb.
You have to be masters to train bronze league players...apparently.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 14:50:44
September 30 2012 14:48 GMT
#47
i feel the same. i actually think protoss received the most fun units in hots (except for the tempest, but if it helps broodlord them i'm happy). swarm hosts are really boring. vipers sound nice but i haven't seen them much in action, even tho i just tuned in.

@winningguy: Tod has always said his opinion from what i remember. He's still no (big) flamer though, which is a good thing.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 30 2012 15:05 GMT
#48
On September 30 2012 23:10 GinDo wrote:
Zerg looks pretty sweet. I think in PvZ the "free unit concept" is great, as it forces the Protoss to harass and attack multiple points in order to be on equal footing with the Zerg Lategame. This helps break the Protoss Death Ball play.

Zerg is the worst race when it comes to responding to drops, while Protoss has some of the best harass options(Phoenix, Oracle, Warp Prism ).


Wow that's a really good thought, although I might argue that Terran is the worst race when responding to drops. Although given their units are stronger in small numbers, the respawning units can usually deal with drops.

But I really like that viewpoint, that this isn't a new deathball but rather forces a change in the metagame and the diversity of the PvZ playstyle.

I feel Protoss should go back to the race that Bisu Pioneered, one that favors aggression and multitasking.
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 15:09:31
September 30 2012 15:09 GMT
#49
Tod tried to play wol metagame against hots zerg, no wonder he lost. He's supposed to lose.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
September 30 2012 15:09 GMT
#50
Perhaps the admins should invite one more korean rather than giving Hyun free money week in and week out.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 30 2012 15:11 GMT
#51
Hyun is so good lately... hope he can win a big tournament soon.
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
September 30 2012 15:13 GMT
#52
On October 01 2012 00:09 WigglingSquid wrote:
Perhaps the admins should invite one more korean rather than giving Hyun free money week in and week out.

Look at IPL Fight Club, HyuN just doesn't lose online.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 30 2012 15:13 GMT
#53
On October 01 2012 00:09 WigglingSquid wrote:
Perhaps the admins should invite one more korean rather than giving Hyun free money week in and week out.

I want better terrans, bring in polt or some other Korean terran.
Glorious SEA doto
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
September 30 2012 15:18 GMT
#54
On October 01 2012 00:13 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 00:09 WigglingSquid wrote:
Perhaps the admins should invite one more korean rather than giving Hyun free money week in and week out.

Look at IPL Fight Club, HyuN just doesn't lose online.

MajOr, Crank, Tear, Grubby, aLive, TitaN... frankly, Tear was the only decent call. aLive is infamous for his inconsistency in TvZ and everyone else is either a foreigner or a b-teamer. They have been sort of soft or careless with him, most other partecipants had a much harder time.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 30 2012 15:23 GMT
#55
On October 01 2012 00:18 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 00:13 CrazyBirdman wrote:
On October 01 2012 00:09 WigglingSquid wrote:
Perhaps the admins should invite one more korean rather than giving Hyun free money week in and week out.

Look at IPL Fight Club, HyuN just doesn't lose online.

MajOr, Crank, Tear, Grubby, aLive, TitaN... frankly, Tear was the only decent call. aLive is infamous for his inconsistency in TvZ and everyone else is either a foreigner or a b-teamer. They have been sort of soft or careless with him, most other partecipants had a much harder time.

Well I guess they don't like reinviting people and hyun was fortunate to arrive after MKP, taeja, Creator, polt, violet, jjakji, MC and stephano had all played but they really should consider reinviting someone if they want to get rid of hyun (Or someone like seed).
Glorious SEA doto
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 30 2012 15:52 GMT
#56
On October 01 2012 00:09 MangoMountain wrote:
Tod tried to play wol metagame against hots zerg, no wonder he lost. He's supposed to lose.


locusts are pretty terrible vs forcefield/colossus. tod barely built any in those games
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