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zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
September 27 2012 00:33 GMT
#161
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again
yuliuswin1
Profile Joined September 2012
Indonesia36 Posts
September 27 2012 00:33 GMT
#162
MVP for GSL 5th championshippp
have fun
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33472 Posts
September 27 2012 00:33 GMT
#163
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


yaaah, but they find a way
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 00:34:52
September 27 2012 00:33 GMT
#164
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


it could happen

the lineup

horror
dreamertt
ready
hirai
nestea

On September 27 2012 09:33 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


yaaah, but they find a way


IM has actually not lost a single team match besides taeja getting the all-kill in the first set of the ipl tac3 finals for a loooong time.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 27 2012 00:35 GMT
#165
On September 27 2012 09:33 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:33 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


yaaah, but they find a way


IM has actually not lost a single team match besides taeja getting the all-kill in the first set of the ipl tac3 finals for a loooong time.

how many have they played since then? not many haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 27 2012 00:35 GMT
#166
On September 27 2012 09:33 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


it could happen

the lineup

horror
dreamertt
ready
hirai
nestea

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:33 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


yaaah, but they find a way


IM has actually not lost a single team match besides taeja getting the all-kill in the first set of the ipl tac3 finals for a loooong time.


doesn't matter if that's the lineup
they will find a way to allkill
can i get my estro logo back pls
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
September 27 2012 00:36 GMT
#167
On September 27 2012 09:33 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


yaaah, but they find a way

Maybe the coach will eventually realize sending out horror and dreamertt isn't a good strategy
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
September 27 2012 00:36 GMT
#168
On September 27 2012 09:28 vthree wrote:
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On September 27 2012 09:24 ladyumbra wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:14 PhoenixVoid wrote:
IM is one of those incredible rare teams that manages to have a wide variety of players in terms of number and races, and in terms of sheer skill and accomplishment.


The team has an incredible amount of depth and for all the flak the lesser accomplished players get, Ready, True, Horror etc have all had really good sets and contributed to team leagues and the general practice enviroment. Everyone currently on the team has at the very least qualified for code A this season. I really wish we could get a mini documentary on what life is like in the IM house and see more interaction between the members who live there.


What? There are plenty of IM in Code B currently. And if you are talking about overall, you forgot about Yonghwa. Although his 2 all kills certainly shows he is capable. But he just seems to have a mental block/bad luck in the prelim finals...


I just meant that everyone on their team has accomplished something this year ( even if it's just getting into code A) not that the whole team was either in code S or A atm. All in all the team's various members even including Fenix are doing well this year.

YongHwa makes my heart hurt for every time he gets to a code a qualifier finals and dies However he's had his shining moments in other places which helps heal the pain.

Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 00:39:41
September 27 2012 00:37 GMT
#169
On September 27 2012 09:31 Rulker wrote:
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On September 27 2012 09:27 Waxangel wrote:
dunno, forgg can be the mammoth

Why is Rain arguably better in skill then ForGG yet ForGG has played SC2 for much longer?


Because all forgg does is 1-1-1 against every race and doesn't know how to play on 3 base or more because he wins all his games on 2 base or he GGs before going on 3 base for long. His ladder play is exactly like his tournament play as shown over and over.

His series against taeja showed how inexperienced he is on 3 bases or more. He could have saved his third and continue to turtle on 3 base as he had the superior army compared to taeja in game 5. Instead he chooses to sac it and go all in. He just doesn't practice anything besides 1-1-1 and 2 base play. Forgg's peak was his gsl debut where he looked great. It's been downhill ever since.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
September 27 2012 00:37 GMT
#170
I think LG-IM will win 5-3
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 27 2012 00:37 GMT
#171
So we have Yonghwa going for GSTL bonjwa and First going for IPTL bonjwa this season. neither will ever win a code a series though xD
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 27 2012 00:37 GMT
#172
On September 27 2012 09:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:33 Dodgin wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


yaaah, but they find a way


IM has actually not lost a single team match besides taeja getting the all-kill in the first set of the ipl tac3 finals for a loooong time.

how many have they played since then? not many haha


8 I think.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 27 2012 00:38 GMT
#173
On September 27 2012 09:37 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:35 opterown wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 Dodgin wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


yaaah, but they find a way


IM has actually not lost a single team match besides taeja getting the all-kill in the first set of the ipl tac3 finals for a loooong time.

how many have they played since then? not many haha


8 I think.

and they've only dropped 2 total maps between this series and the last 2 GSTL series combined O_O
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 00:41:11
September 27 2012 00:39 GMT
#174
On September 27 2012 09:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:33 Dodgin wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


yaaah, but they find a way


IM has actually not lost a single team match besides taeja getting the all-kill in the first set of the ipl tac3 finals for a loooong time.

how many have they played since then? not many haha


- All of TAC3 (aside from the mentioned Taeja all-kill)

- NSHS

- Fnactic (more like team Yonghwa)

- Startale in TAC4 (close one)

- Slayers (Yonghwa again)

- Prime (it's going to happen...)

not bad. Only see Startale stopping them these days.

NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
September 27 2012 00:40 GMT
#175
On September 27 2012 09:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:37 Dodgin wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:35 opterown wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 Dodgin wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


yaaah, but they find a way


IM has actually not lost a single team match besides taeja getting the all-kill in the first set of the ipl tac3 finals for a loooong time.

how many have they played since then? not many haha


8 I think.

and they've only dropped 2 total maps between this series and the last 2 GSTL series combined O_O


not really, they are 5;4 vs ST
as1
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 27 2012 00:40 GMT
#176
On September 27 2012 09:37 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:31 Rulker wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:27 Waxangel wrote:
dunno, forgg can be the mammoth

Why is Rain arguably better in skill then ForGG yet ForGG has played SC2 for much longer?


Because all forgg does is 1-1-1 against every race and doesn't know how to play on 3 base or more because he wins all his games on 2 base or he GGs before going on 3 base for long. His ladder play is exactly like his tournament play as shown over and over.

His series against taeja showed how inexperienced he is on 3 bases or more. He could have saved his third and continue to turtle on 3 base as he had the superior army compared to taeja in game 5. Instead he chooses to sac it and go all in. He just doesn't practice anything besides 1-1-1 and 2 base play. Forgg's peak was his gsl debut where he looked great. It's been downhill ever since.


he was actually famous for this kind of thing in bw
can i get my estro logo back pls
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 00:42:42
September 27 2012 00:41 GMT
#177
TAC 3

IM 5-0 DTG
IM 5-1 MVP
IM 5-2 Startale
IM 5-1 Slayers
Team Taeja 5-0 IM
IM 5-3 Team Liquid

GSTL S3
IM 5-0 Fnatic
IM 5-3 Hoseo
IM 5-1 Slayers

IPTL
IM 5-4 Startale
IM ??? Prime

so 9-1 in their last 10 series'

looking to go 10-1 here
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 00:43:33
September 27 2012 00:41 GMT
#178
On September 27 2012 09:36 StaplerPhone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:33 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


yaaah, but they find a way

Maybe the coach will eventually realize sending out horror and dreamertt isn't a good strategy

Isn't that exactly what people said about first/yonghwa and seed before?
I think the IM coach knows perfectly what he does and considering the current results i say it payed off.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 27 2012 00:44 GMT
#179
So.

I understand the Mastodon in the Room point of view concerning First. However, that would only be true of contemporaries of Boxer, Nada and possibly July. The mastodon pre-dates the elephant; the elephants of course are the KeSPA pros. So the analogy holds up in the sense that the mastodon, in this case First, pre-dates the elephants in SC2. However, mastodons also pre-dates elephants as such, so for First to be a true mastodon he would have to have been around for longer in general than the KeSPhAnts.

I am not sure that we can find a conclusive, historically accurate representation within the pachydermata for the phenomenon of what we are trying to portray here. Perhaps the mammoth would be better, as it still exists in potentia (thus allowing the analogy to be used more freely if not exactly accurately) and would qualify as being older than the elephant.

I am however not convinced that the elephantidea family will be sufficient for categorizing the phenomenons observed in the professional StarCraft scene. Perhaps another genus should be investigated to see if it can bear better fruits?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 00:45:40
September 27 2012 00:44 GMT
#180
On September 27 2012 09:41 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:36 StaplerPhone wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 Waxangel wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
I can't see IM ever losing in team league again


yaaah, but they find a way

Maybe the coach will eventually realize sending out horror and dreamertt isn't a good strategy

Isn't that exactly what people said about first/yonghwa and seed before?
I think the IM coach knows perfectly what he does and considering the current results i say it payed off.

dreamertt 2-0 MMA recently too :D
IM coach got all his players up to top talent. the team is too deep!

I bet First has been working on his 1-1-1 defense ever since code A
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