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No balance whine
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
September 27 2012 09:03 GMT
#121
On September 27 2012 18:02 Talionis wrote:
Oh shi- Crayon Pop.

Hopefully more of this to come ... ^^


I wonder where :D
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 27 2012 09:04 GMT
#122
On September 27 2012 18:02 Talionis wrote:
Oh shi- Crayon Pop.

Hopefully more of this to come ... ^^


Like at the GSL Finals you mean =P
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trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
September 27 2012 09:05 GMT
#123
haha i missed these k pop times

and for reason I want to cheer for heart..... such a cheesy guy and i really dislike his games but for some reason he has a funny aura when he cheeses...
Dasende
Profile Joined August 2010
United States864 Posts
September 27 2012 09:06 GMT
#124
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 27 2012 09:06 GMT
#125
On September 27 2012 18:05 trwkling wrote:
haha i missed these k pop times

and for reason I want to cheer for heart..... such a cheesy guy and i really dislike his games but for some reason he has a funny aura when he cheeses...


This "funny aura" you are talking about is the thousands of nerds raging on the forums :D
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 27 2012 09:06 GMT
#126
:D Kpop :D
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Tazerenix
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia340 Posts
September 27 2012 09:06 GMT
#127
God I can not stand crayon pop.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 27 2012 09:07 GMT
#128
On September 27 2012 17:48 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 17:37 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On September 27 2012 17:16 vthree wrote:
On September 27 2012 16:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On September 27 2012 16:41 opterown wrote:
imagine if heart scraped it out 4-4 from this group again
then cheeses rain out 3-2
and then cheeses mvp out 3-2
and finally cheeses in the finals, 4-3

he would be the code s winner with the worst winrate during season, ever

The chances of that are statistically very unlikely. Coin flipping can only take you so far.


Actually, assuming we are talking about 50/50 coin flips. This is not unlikely. Basically he has a 1/16 chance which is same as Squirtle, HerO, Leenock. And the six people already in quarters has 1/8 chance.

Coin flipping is just an expression. There's no build or style that produces an exact 50/50 win chance against every player. It's more about playing to get an advantage without actually using much skill where you can also easily come out with a disadvantage.

Coin flipping can be a form of metagaming, or at least is related, but impressive metagaming requires more thought as opposed to randomness. It's a spectrum, and I think Heart plays on the low-thought end.


Actually, since players basically play with imperfect information (fog of war). A lot of things can be consider coin flip. Players are always calculating the risk/rewards/player tendencies. Things like CC first, late pool, nexus first all can get punished by the right builds. Obviously, some things like proxy 2 rax/4 gate/bane bust are considered 'big' coin flips because it depends so much on not getting scouted/opponent playing extremely greedy.

The distinction from standard risk taking, which is inherent in all play (even "safe" styles), is that coin flipping as a playstyle is where you deliberately choose builds which are polarising. It's where you rely on getting a big advantage off of nothing but chance as opposed to playing the odds.

But yes, as I said, it can be a form of metagaming - going a level or two beyond playing the odds is what metagaming is - or is at least on the same spectrum, as with all things surrounding playstyle.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
September 27 2012 09:07 GMT
#129
Just when you think you've seen it all... they bring in ping pong....
Long live the Boss Toss!
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
September 27 2012 09:07 GMT
#130
yes orange caramel
Maruprime.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
September 27 2012 09:08 GMT
#131
The hell am I watching
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
September 27 2012 09:08 GMT
#132
On September 27 2012 18:04 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 18:02 Talionis wrote:
Oh shi- Crayon Pop.

Hopefully more of this to come ... ^^


Like at the GSL Finals you mean =P

Of course. :p

+ Show Spoiler +
I'd prefer Orange Caramel though
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
September 27 2012 09:09 GMT
#133
On September 27 2012 18:03 Fionn wrote:
[image loading]

Heart is the one reviving BitByBit. For centuries BitByBit has been dead in the ground, locked away by Tastosis so that he could never harm the GSL again with his SCV all-ins. But Heart has made it into Code S and with every victory he picks up, BitByBit slowly is coming back into the scene.

He's reviving him slowly with his all-in sacrifices.


BitByBit is actually coming back! Heart probably showed him these strategies still work :D
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
September 27 2012 09:09 GMT
#134
On September 27 2012 18:03 Fionn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

Heart is the one reviving BitByBit. For centuries BitByBit has been dead in the ground, locked away by Tastosis so that he could never harm the GSL again with his SCV all-ins. But Heart has made it into Code S and with every victory he picks up, BitByBit slowly is coming back into the scene.

He's reviving him slowly with his all-in sacrifices.


20 years from now, I probably won't remember 95% of players in the scene today. But Bitbybit might be in the 5% I still remember after all those years despite his poor performance compared to so many other better players.
Dasende
Profile Joined August 2010
United States864 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 09:10:12
September 27 2012 09:09 GMT
#135


Yay for those 5 seconds.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 27 2012 09:09 GMT
#136
Welcome to the new LR game show: How many Command Centers will Heart build in every game?

Poll: How many CC's will Heart make in G1 vs. Squirtle?

One CC! (10)
 
50%

Two CC! (4)
 
20%

...FIVE CC OR HIGHER!? (4)
 
20%

Three CC! (1)
 
5%

Four CC! (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: How many CC's will Heart make in G1 vs. Squirtle?

(Vote): One CC!
(Vote): Two CC!
(Vote): Three CC!
(Vote): Four CC!
(Vote): ...FIVE CC OR HIGHER!?



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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
September 27 2012 09:10 GMT
#137
On September 27 2012 18:03 Fionn wrote:
[image loading]

Heart is the one reviving BitByBit. For centuries BitByBit has been dead in the ground, locked away by Tastosis so that he could never harm the GSL again with his SCV all-ins. But Heart has made it into Code S and with every victory he picks up, BitByBit slowly is coming back into the scene.

He's reviving him slowly with his all-in sacrifices.



LOL. Heart is regressing the SC2 metagame.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 27 2012 09:10 GMT
#138
On September 27 2012 18:09 Fionn wrote:
Welcome to the new LR game show: How many Command Centers will Heart build in every game?

Poll: How many CC's will Heart make in G1 vs. Squirtle?

One CC! (10)
 
50%

Two CC! (4)
 
20%

...FIVE CC OR HIGHER!? (4)
 
20%

Three CC! (1)
 
5%

Four CC! (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: How many CC's will Heart make in G1 vs. Squirtle?

(Vote): One CC!
(Vote): Two CC!
(Vote): Three CC!
(Vote): Four CC!
(Vote): ...FIVE CC OR HIGHER!?




no choice for 0? or are you counting the one he starts with as making 1?
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 09:10:57
September 27 2012 09:10 GMT
#139
On September 27 2012 18:09 Fionn wrote:
Welcome to the new LR game show: How many Command Centers will Heart build in every game?
Poll: How many CC's will Heart make in G1 vs. Squirtle?

One CC! (10)
 
50%

Two CC! (4)
 
20%

...FIVE CC OR HIGHER!? (4)
 
20%

Three CC! (1)
 
5%

Four CC! (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: How many CC's will Heart make in G1 vs. Squirtle?

(Vote): One CC!
(Vote): Two CC!
(Vote): Three CC!
(Vote): Four CC!
(Vote): ...FIVE CC OR HIGHER!?



Zero should be an option. He doesn't build the one he starts with.
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
September 27 2012 09:10 GMT
#140
On September 27 2012 18:09 Fionn wrote:
Welcome to the new LR game show: How many Command Centers will Heart build in every game?

Poll: How many CC's will Heart make in G1 vs. Squirtle?

One CC! (10)
 
50%

Two CC! (4)
 
20%

...FIVE CC OR HIGHER!? (4)
 
20%

Three CC! (1)
 
5%

Four CC! (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: How many CC's will Heart make in G1 vs. Squirtle?

(Vote): One CC!
(Vote): Two CC!
(Vote): Three CC!
(Vote): Four CC!
(Vote): ...FIVE CC OR HIGHER!?





Ehrm.. Zero?
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