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speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3421
On September 24 2012 01:22 xHQx wrote:
no zergs in ro4? awwwyeah
actually SaSe can win this... his pvt vs koreans is preeetty good and TaeJa if losing - only to P right now

"targa" is still in. Didn't seem very impressive vs lucifron though, so hopefully no zerg in ro4 indeed.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3422
go sase
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3423
starsense scan...
the game is the game
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3424
Or zealot archon storm all in, depends. Monchi beat MVP with this
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
FloKi
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1490 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3425
On September 24 2012 01:23 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:23 NaZa wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:21 bakarin wrote:
Reminder that Stephano has 0 MSL championships

Reminder that ForGG has 0 WCS championships...

Reminder that stephano's teams have 0 proleague championships.

so? the first comment was irrelevant to the series anyway...
Where do whores go?
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3426
On September 24 2012 01:17 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:13 Doodsmack wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:08 Doodsmack wrote:
Stephano's losses were caused solely by hellion/banshee economy damage so to call that being outplayed is just not a very intelligent assessment. It's a momentary loss of workers, not any sort of fundamental difference of skill. ForGG played well but not godlike...I mean game 2 he just threw some hellions and banshees at Stephano who didn't have anything to defend it. It was Stephano losing more than ForGG winning.


ForGG outexpanded Stephano, kept being aggressive, used his advantages really well. He outplayed Stephano.


...He outexpanded and stayed aggressive because he was ahead from early econ damage. Surely you're intelligent enough to recognize that those are things Terran does when they've killed a bunch of drones. It's how a Terran maintains his lead, Stephano could do nothing about it after the hellion banshee damage.

So to sum things up: Stephano had a huge early game disadvantage and because he never had a chance to win, he was not outplayed. Makes sense...I guess.^^

more like stephano sees everything the opponut is doing, and doesn't react good enough so he just dies early game. Its like a game of machine vs some terran, and machine just dies to a pressure build because he doesn't react properly.
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 16:26:20
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3427
On September 24 2012 01:24 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:23 jj33 wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:21 scypio wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:16 jj33 wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:13 Doodsmack wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:08 Doodsmack wrote:
Stephano's losses were caused solely by hellion/banshee economy damage so to call that being outplayed is just not a very intelligent assessment. It's a momentary loss of workers, not any sort of fundamental difference of skill. ForGG played well but not godlike...I mean game 2 he just threw some hellions and banshees at Stephano who didn't have anything to defend it. It was Stephano losing more than ForGG winning.


ForGG outexpanded Stephano, kept being aggressive, used his advantages really well. He outplayed Stephano.


...He outexpanded and stayed aggressive because he was ahead from early econ damage. Surely you're intelligent enough to recognize that those are things Terran does when they've killed a bunch of drones. It's how a Terran maintains his lead, Stephano could do nothing about it after the hellion banshee damage.



uhhh. he got outplayed.

doing the damange in the first place takes skill and to maintain what forgg did is not easy.

forgg outplayed stephano hardcore in game 3. If what forgg is so easy, why don't you do it to stephano?


Yeah, this is it... I can run a couple of hellions into some random zergs base even if he plays 6 queen and roast a couple of drones. But I do not have the skill to macro / tech up at the same time, so it evens things out after a successful hellion attack.

ForGG had the skill to keep his hellions alive, keep Stephano busy and keep up with his macro. I hope that one day I can learn that too.



if it's so easy, do it to stephano.

your argument is retarded. anybody can make your argument saying make X unit and go attack and win! and it's easy!

Forgg outplayed stephano pure and simple. LIke I said, if it's so easy make hellions and banshees go kill some drones and take a lead and press your lead and win vs Stephano.

do it.

Dude, read, he said that ForGG did something difficult



Yea i misread it. sorry again!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3428
On September 24 2012 01:24 Dodgin wrote:
WOW...ForGG...really impressive beating Stephano.

Props to Fionn for predicting ForGG 2-1 Stephano, I never would have guessed that.


Wait, Fionn got it..right?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3429
On September 24 2012 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oooooooh, this is a zealot archon all in methinks

Or he wants Storm ready by the time the first Medivacs come around his bases.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
September 23 2012 16:26 GMT
#3430
Really fast HT.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
September 23 2012 16:26 GMT
#3431
On September 24 2012 01:25 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:24 neurosx wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:23 mememolly wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:21 neurosx wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:19 Talin wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:17 MosART wrote:
Time for the Liquid Curse!


Liquid Curse = not being able to practice for Code S because they have all these events to win.


Oh yeah I forgot Liquid won so many events ..


didn't Nony win that red bull lan recently?


It was a fun tournaments and he won against Incontrol .. don't want to sound like an ass because I love them both but

Incontrol and White-Ra.


Yeah my point stands :D
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 16:26:58
September 23 2012 16:26 GMT
#3432
forgg threw out stephano O_O nice couldnt watch the end of game 3. guess the koreans will duke it out. Funny that it might be no zerg in the round of 4.

edit: and 3 terrans
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
September 23 2012 16:26 GMT
#3433
On September 24 2012 01:25 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oooooooh, this is a zealot archon all in methinks

Or he wants Storm ready by the time the first Medivacs come around his bases.


Told ya :D
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
skiersteve
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom268 Posts
September 23 2012 16:27 GMT
#3434
really like apollo and cats casting <3
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 23 2012 16:27 GMT
#3435
What is this? 2 base storm allin???
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 23 2012 16:27 GMT
#3436
8 gates, he wants to all-in.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
September 23 2012 16:27 GMT
#3437
On September 24 2012 01:25 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:24 Dodgin wrote:
WOW...ForGG...really impressive beating Stephano.

Props to Fionn for predicting ForGG 2-1 Stephano, I never would have guessed that.


Wait, Fionn got it..right?


fionn understands the power of the curse
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
September 23 2012 16:27 GMT
#3438
On September 24 2012 01:27 sitromit wrote:
What is this? 2 base storm allin???


Yes. Austrian protoss Monchi used this to beat MVP.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
September 23 2012 16:27 GMT
#3439
Lol, VeryVeryHot :D
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 23 2012 16:27 GMT
#3440
On September 24 2012 01:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:25 TheDwf wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oooooooh, this is a zealot archon all in methinks

Or he wants Storm ready by the time the first Medivacs come around his bases.


Told ya :D

I bow.
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