On September 24 2012 01:23 NaZa wrote:
Reminder that ForGG has 0 WCS championships...
Reminder that ForGG has 0 WCS championships...
Reminder that stephano's teams have 0 proleague championships.
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:23 NaZa wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2012 01:21 bakarin wrote: Reminder that Stephano has 0 MSL championships Reminder that ForGG has 0 WCS championships... Reminder that stephano's teams have 0 proleague championships. | ||
scypio
Poland2127 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:21 krutopatkin wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2012 01:19 Derrida wrote: I left to eat as Stephano killed 20+ SCVs in game 2, and came back to watch Taeja... And Stephano lost 2-1 wtf? wtf? pretty much sums up everyones thoughts. ttf: A queen, four roaches and 1 spine < 2 banshees + 13 hellions. | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
Props to Fionn for predicting ForGG 2-1 Stephano, I never would have guessed that. | ||
mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:23 jj33 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2012 01:21 scypio wrote: On September 24 2012 01:16 jj33 wrote: On September 24 2012 01:13 Doodsmack wrote: On September 24 2012 01:10 DarkLordOlli wrote: On September 24 2012 01:08 Doodsmack wrote: Stephano's losses were caused solely by hellion/banshee economy damage so to call that being outplayed is just not a very intelligent assessment. It's a momentary loss of workers, not any sort of fundamental difference of skill. ForGG played well but not godlike...I mean game 2 he just threw some hellions and banshees at Stephano who didn't have anything to defend it. It was Stephano losing more than ForGG winning. ForGG outexpanded Stephano, kept being aggressive, used his advantages really well. He outplayed Stephano. ...He outexpanded and stayed aggressive because he was ahead from early econ damage. Surely you're intelligent enough to recognize that those are things Terran does when they've killed a bunch of drones. It's how a Terran maintains his lead, Stephano could do nothing about it after the hellion banshee damage. uhhh. he got outplayed. doing the damange in the first place takes skill and to maintain what forgg did is not easy. forgg outplayed stephano hardcore in game 3. If what forgg is so easy, why don't you do it to stephano? Yeah, this is it... I can run a couple of hellions into some random zergs base even if he plays 6 queen and roast a couple of drones. But I do not have the skill to macro / tech up at the same time, so it evens things out after a successful hellion attack. ForGG had the skill to keep his hellions alive, keep Stephano busy and keep up with his macro. I hope that one day I can learn that too. if it's so easy, do it to stephano. your argument is retarded. anybody can make your argument saying make X unit and go attack and win! and it's easy! Forgg outplayed stephano pure and simple. LIke I said, if it's so easy make hellions and banshees go kill some drones and take a lead and press your lead and win vs Stephano. do it. Dude, read, he said that ForGG did something difficult | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:23 NaZa wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2012 01:21 bakarin wrote: Reminder that Stephano has 0 MSL championships Reminder that ForGG has 0 WCS championships... yeah because european WCS is comparable to korean wcs, rofl | ||
neurosx
Luxembourg1096 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:23 mememolly wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2012 01:21 neurosx wrote: On September 24 2012 01:19 Talin wrote: On September 24 2012 01:17 MosART wrote: Time for the Liquid Curse! Liquid Curse = not being able to practice for Code S because they have all these events to win. Oh yeah I forgot Liquid won so many events .. didn't Nony win that red bull lan recently? It was a fun tournaments and he won against Incontrol .. don't want to sound like an ass because I love them both but ![]() | ||
Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:21 scypio wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2012 01:16 jj33 wrote: On September 24 2012 01:13 Doodsmack wrote: On September 24 2012 01:10 DarkLordOlli wrote: On September 24 2012 01:08 Doodsmack wrote: Stephano's losses were caused solely by hellion/banshee economy damage so to call that being outplayed is just not a very intelligent assessment. It's a momentary loss of workers, not any sort of fundamental difference of skill. ForGG played well but not godlike...I mean game 2 he just threw some hellions and banshees at Stephano who didn't have anything to defend it. It was Stephano losing more than ForGG winning. ForGG outexpanded Stephano, kept being aggressive, used his advantages really well. He outplayed Stephano. ...He outexpanded and stayed aggressive because he was ahead from early econ damage. Surely you're intelligent enough to recognize that those are things Terran does when they've killed a bunch of drones. It's how a Terran maintains his lead, Stephano could do nothing about it after the hellion banshee damage. uhhh. he got outplayed. doing the damange in the first place takes skill and to maintain what forgg did is not easy. forgg outplayed stephano hardcore in game 3. If what forgg is so easy, why don't you do it to stephano? Yeah, this is it... I can run a couple of hellions into some random zergs base even if he plays 6 queen and roast a couple of drones. But I do not have the skill to macro / tech up at the same time, so it evens things out after a successful hellion attack. ForGG had the skill to keep his hellions alive, keep Stephano busy and keep up with his macro. I hope that one day I can learn that too. there's more than that. the 2 almost dead hellions that forgg had in the main with like 5 queens chasing them allowed the other 2 to sneak in to the natural and for some reason stephano pulled drones and lost even more. Spores were late as well. Just bad defense. Its silly that stephano made that game last as long as it did. T3 zerg is ridiculously cost effective with fungals thrown in. | ||
A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:24 neurosx wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2012 01:23 mememolly wrote: On September 24 2012 01:21 neurosx wrote: On September 24 2012 01:19 Talin wrote: On September 24 2012 01:17 MosART wrote: Time for the Liquid Curse! Liquid Curse = not being able to practice for Code S because they have all these events to win. Oh yeah I forgot Liquid won so many events .. didn't Nony win that red bull lan recently? It was a fun tournaments and he won against Incontrol .. don't want to sound like an ass because I love them both but ![]() Nony is the defending red bull champion dood, he's up there with MC and ret. | ||
samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
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Supter
France382 Posts
"Outplay" is Grubby vs Nerchio g1 from wcs, where Nerchio was always a step ahead, always predicting what Grubby was going to do. THAT is outplay. This game was really awesome, and fOrGG had a really good control, but he just did damage early game (playing really well, baiting the Queens in a good way) and get ahead like this. And the rule is "when you're ahead, get more ahead". Stephano did this mistake early game, but played really well late game, fOrGG won because he had the advantage. The two players played really well, and i say that as a forGG fan who find what he did incredibly hard to do. | ||
xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
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CodeskyE
United States777 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:23 NaZa wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2012 01:21 bakarin wrote: Reminder that Stephano has 0 MSL championships Reminder that ForGG has 0 WCS championships... did you just compare WCS to MSL lol you can't be serious. | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:24 neurosx wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2012 01:23 mememolly wrote: On September 24 2012 01:21 neurosx wrote: On September 24 2012 01:19 Talin wrote: On September 24 2012 01:17 MosART wrote: Time for the Liquid Curse! Liquid Curse = not being able to practice for Code S because they have all these events to win. Oh yeah I forgot Liquid won so many events .. didn't Nony win that red bull lan recently? It was a fun tournaments and he won against Incontrol .. don't want to sound like an ass because I love them both but ![]() Incontrol and White-Ra. | ||
WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:25 Supter wrote: That's not "outplaying" someone. What forGG did was really impressive, but that wasn't "outplay". "Outplay" is Grubby vs Nerchio g1 from wcs, where Nerchio was always a step ahead, always predicting what Grubby was going to do. THAT is outplay. This game was really awesome, and fOrGG had a really good control, but he just did damage early game (playing really well, baiting the Queens in a good way) and get ahead like this. And the rule is "when you're ahead, get more ahead". Stephano did this mistake early game, but played really well late game, fOrGG won because he had the advantage. The two players played really well, and i say that as a forGG fan who find what he did incredibly hard to do. The semantics of the word outplay is truly the most diversifying thing in LR threads. | ||
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