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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 23 2012 16:23 GMT
#3401
On September 24 2012 01:23 NaZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:21 bakarin wrote:
Reminder that Stephano has 0 MSL championships

Reminder that ForGG has 0 WCS championships...

Reminder that stephano's teams have 0 proleague championships.
Glorious SEA doto
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
September 23 2012 16:23 GMT
#3402
On September 24 2012 01:21 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:19 Derrida wrote:
I left to eat as Stephano killed 20+ SCVs in game 2, and came back to watch Taeja... And Stephano lost 2-1 wtf?


wtf? pretty much sums up everyones thoughts.


ttf: A queen, four roaches and 1 spine < 2 banshees + 13 hellions.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 23 2012 16:24 GMT
#3403
WOW...ForGG...really impressive beating Stephano.

Props to Fionn for predicting ForGG 2-1 Stephano, I never would have guessed that.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
September 23 2012 16:24 GMT
#3404
On September 24 2012 01:23 jj33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:21 scypio wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:16 jj33 wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:13 Doodsmack wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:08 Doodsmack wrote:
Stephano's losses were caused solely by hellion/banshee economy damage so to call that being outplayed is just not a very intelligent assessment. It's a momentary loss of workers, not any sort of fundamental difference of skill. ForGG played well but not godlike...I mean game 2 he just threw some hellions and banshees at Stephano who didn't have anything to defend it. It was Stephano losing more than ForGG winning.


ForGG outexpanded Stephano, kept being aggressive, used his advantages really well. He outplayed Stephano.


...He outexpanded and stayed aggressive because he was ahead from early econ damage. Surely you're intelligent enough to recognize that those are things Terran does when they've killed a bunch of drones. It's how a Terran maintains his lead, Stephano could do nothing about it after the hellion banshee damage.



uhhh. he got outplayed.

doing the damange in the first place takes skill and to maintain what forgg did is not easy.

forgg outplayed stephano hardcore in game 3. If what forgg is so easy, why don't you do it to stephano?


Yeah, this is it... I can run a couple of hellions into some random zergs base even if he plays 6 queen and roast a couple of drones. But I do not have the skill to macro / tech up at the same time, so it evens things out after a successful hellion attack.

ForGG had the skill to keep his hellions alive, keep Stephano busy and keep up with his macro. I hope that one day I can learn that too.



if it's so easy, do it to stephano.

your argument is retarded. anybody can make your argument saying make X unit and go attack and win! and it's easy!

Forgg outplayed stephano pure and simple. LIke I said, if it's so easy make hellions and banshees go kill some drones and take a lead and press your lead and win vs Stephano.

do it.

Dude, read, he said that ForGG did something difficult
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
September 23 2012 16:24 GMT
#3405
Man, I really want Targa to win v HerO.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
September 23 2012 16:24 GMT
#3406
On September 24 2012 01:23 NaZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:21 bakarin wrote:
Reminder that Stephano has 0 MSL championships

Reminder that ForGG has 0 WCS championships...


yeah because european WCS is comparable to korean wcs, rofl
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
September 23 2012 16:24 GMT
#3407
On September 24 2012 01:23 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:21 neurosx wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:19 Talin wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:17 MosART wrote:
Time for the Liquid Curse!


Liquid Curse = not being able to practice for Code S because they have all these events to win.


Oh yeah I forgot Liquid won so many events ..


didn't Nony win that red bull lan recently?


It was a fun tournaments and he won against Incontrol .. don't want to sound like an ass because I love them both but
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
September 23 2012 16:24 GMT
#3408
On September 24 2012 01:21 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:16 jj33 wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:13 Doodsmack wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:08 Doodsmack wrote:
Stephano's losses were caused solely by hellion/banshee economy damage so to call that being outplayed is just not a very intelligent assessment. It's a momentary loss of workers, not any sort of fundamental difference of skill. ForGG played well but not godlike...I mean game 2 he just threw some hellions and banshees at Stephano who didn't have anything to defend it. It was Stephano losing more than ForGG winning.


ForGG outexpanded Stephano, kept being aggressive, used his advantages really well. He outplayed Stephano.


...He outexpanded and stayed aggressive because he was ahead from early econ damage. Surely you're intelligent enough to recognize that those are things Terran does when they've killed a bunch of drones. It's how a Terran maintains his lead, Stephano could do nothing about it after the hellion banshee damage.



uhhh. he got outplayed.

doing the damange in the first place takes skill and to maintain what forgg did is not easy.

forgg outplayed stephano hardcore in game 3. If what forgg is so easy, why don't you do it to stephano?


Yeah, this is it... I can run a couple of hellions into some random zergs base even if he plays 6 queen and roast a couple of drones. But I do not have the skill to macro / tech up at the same time, so it evens things out after a successful hellion attack.

ForGG had the skill to keep his hellions alive, keep Stephano busy and keep up with his macro. I hope that one day I can learn that too.


there's more than that. the 2 almost dead hellions that forgg had in the main with like 5 queens chasing them allowed the other 2 to sneak in to the natural and for some reason stephano pulled drones and lost even more. Spores were late as well.
Just bad defense. Its silly that stephano made that game last as long as it did. T3 zerg is ridiculously cost effective with fungals thrown in.
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
September 23 2012 16:24 GMT
#3409
Protoss allins are how to beat Taeja, that or dts.
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3410
On September 24 2012 01:24 neurosx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:23 mememolly wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:21 neurosx wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:19 Talin wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:17 MosART wrote:
Time for the Liquid Curse!


Liquid Curse = not being able to practice for Code S because they have all these events to win.


Oh yeah I forgot Liquid won so many events ..


didn't Nony win that red bull lan recently?


It was a fun tournaments and he won against Incontrol .. don't want to sound like an ass because I love them both but

Nony is the defending red bull champion dood, he's up there with MC and ret.
Glorious SEA doto
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3411
dat scan !
Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3412
That's not "outplaying" someone. What forGG did was really impressive, but that wasn't "outplay".

"Outplay" is Grubby vs Nerchio g1 from wcs, where Nerchio was always a step ahead, always predicting what Grubby was going to do. THAT is outplay. This game was really awesome, and fOrGG had a really good control, but he just did damage early game (playing really well, baiting the Queens in a good way) and get ahead like this. And the rule is "when you're ahead, get more ahead".

Stephano did this mistake early game, but played really well late game, fOrGG won because he had the advantage.

The two players played really well, and i say that as a forGG fan who find what he did incredibly hard to do.
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3413
dat scan
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3414
Dat Scan.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3415
Damn that scan timing was perfect.
CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3416
On September 24 2012 01:23 NaZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:21 bakarin wrote:
Reminder that Stephano has 0 MSL championships

Reminder that ForGG has 0 WCS championships...


did you just compare WCS to MSL lol you can't be serious.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3417
Oooooooh, this is a zealot archon all in methinks
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3418
On September 24 2012 01:24 neurosx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:23 mememolly wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:21 neurosx wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:19 Talin wrote:
On September 24 2012 01:17 MosART wrote:
Time for the Liquid Curse!


Liquid Curse = not being able to practice for Code S because they have all these events to win.


Oh yeah I forgot Liquid won so many events ..


didn't Nony win that red bull lan recently?


It was a fun tournaments and he won against Incontrol .. don't want to sound like an ass because I love them both but

Incontrol and White-Ra.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3419
SaSe's main gets scanned, bad for SaSe
EZ4ENCE
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 16:25:52
September 23 2012 16:25 GMT
#3420
On September 24 2012 01:25 Supter wrote:
That's not "outplaying" someone. What forGG did was really impressive, but that wasn't "outplay".

"Outplay" is Grubby vs Nerchio g1 from wcs, where Nerchio was always a step ahead, always predicting what Grubby was going to do. THAT is outplay. This game was really awesome, and fOrGG had a really good control, but he just did damage early game (playing really well, baiting the Queens in a good way) and get ahead like this. And the rule is "when you're ahead, get more ahead".

Stephano did this mistake early game, but played really well late game, fOrGG won because he had the advantage.

The two players played really well, and i say that as a forGG fan who find what he did incredibly hard to do.

The semantics of the word outplay is truly the most diversifying thing in LR threads.
Glorious SEA doto
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