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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1401
Polt vs Rain
Winners' Match game 2
Map: Antiga Shipyard

0:00
Polt spawns in the top right
Rain spawns in the bottom left
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1402
On September 19 2012 20:26 Lvdr wrote:
Toss is by far the worst race to watch...

i feel the same way my friend.
#TheOneTrueDong
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1403
On September 19 2012 20:25 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:23 iAmiAnC wrote:
Biggest map ever, distance instantly gets negated by the magic of Warp Gate. Don't think I can watch this impending bullshit...

Yes it's stupid, but Polt teching with only 2 Marines after CC first with 0 info is also stupid.

Nope, because rain is allowed to do that, apparently not the case for polt.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1404
4g is definitely making a comeback in pvt, Mana, Naniwa and now rain, this is funny
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1405
On September 19 2012 20:26 Crashburn wrote:
Terran does a one-base build, pulls SCVs, TL goes "zomg so smart amazing build gg"

Protoss does a one-base build, TL goes "omg cheesy noob BS imba"


because terran is boxer's race

Bunker rushes have always been awesome for TL
Notfragile
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece713 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1406
On September 19 2012 20:25 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:23 iAmiAnC wrote:
Biggest map ever, distance instantly gets negated by the magic of Warp Gate. Don't think I can watch this impending bullshit...

Yes it's stupid, but Polt teching with only 2 Marines after CC first with 0 info is also stupid.


Yes. And him having 6-8 marines and slower tech is also stupid.
Actually everything he does if he cannot scout (and on this map it is possible to deny the scout) is also stupid. Middle of the road dies to either all-in or greed.
"The art of war is of vital importance to the state" || MVP.Keen fan since the day he stole my heart with a double 2rax. http://i.imgur.com/A82cl.gif
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1407
On September 19 2012 20:26 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:25 Serinox wrote:
People don't do this on this map? Erm, MC did it, Seed did it, AcE did it and many more.


Yeah but I think what was meant was that people wouldn't expect Protoss to cheese on the map since it's large and Protoss could easily turtle to late game.

Yeah, but they do it so often, that it should be expected already.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1408
On September 19 2012 20:26 Addict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:25 Nocteo wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:23 iAmiAnC wrote:
Biggest map ever, distance instantly gets negated by the magic of Warp Gate. Don't think I can watch this impending bullshit...


This, the terran just needs to guess w/e the toss do and make a coinflip.


Yeah, too bad scouting is so hard when you have an orbital...

Lol, you're saying Terran is supposed to scan at 4'30 when going CC first?
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1409
On September 19 2012 20:25 Yagami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:24 Ysellian wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:23 iAmiAnC wrote:
Biggest map ever, distance instantly gets negated by the magic of Warp Gate. Don't think I can watch this impending bullshit...


Indeed this is the biggest bullshit in SC2 IMO.

If you could go CC first and rush a factory with 2 marines without being punished....

THAT would be bullshit


This.

Two responses to greed are hard aggression or similar greed.
Mirosuu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
England283 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1410
And this is why we see posts about how it's okay to cheese. Everyone balance whining over one of the oldest builds in the protoss book. Come on guys... You know better than to complain about it.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
XRuneTH
Profile Joined April 2011
Vietnam34 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1411
There are still people saying that 4 gates is so strong...
No pain, no gain
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 11:28:48
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1412
On September 19 2012 20:25 Yagami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:24 Ysellian wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:23 iAmiAnC wrote:
Biggest map ever, distance instantly gets negated by the magic of Warp Gate. Don't think I can watch this impending bullshit...


Indeed this is the biggest bullshit in SC2 IMO.

If you could go CC first and rush a factory with 2 marines without being punished....

THAT would be bullshit



The problem is that Protoss allins don't get weaker with the distance while Terran allins get weaker. Protoss can go greedy on this map or play allin. Terran has to guess if you can go greedy or have to play safe.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
September 19 2012 11:27 GMT
#1413
On September 19 2012 20:26 Fjodorov wrote:
Well that was ironic after just bringing up the post where blizzard explained how they balanced TvP :p


Polt was doing economic cheese with zero information. He deserves to lose for that on occasion - it's part of the risk he takes with a build like that.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
September 19 2012 11:28 GMT
#1414
On September 19 2012 20:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Polt vs Rain
Winners' Match game 2
Map: Antiga Shipyard

0:00
Polt spawns in the top right
Rain spawns in the bottom left

1:30
rax first for Polt
gateway first for Rain
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2667 Posts
September 19 2012 11:28 GMT
#1415
On September 19 2012 20:26 Crashburn wrote:
Terran does a one-base build, pulls SCVs, TL goes "zomg so smart amazing build gg"

Protoss does a one-base build, TL goes "omg cheesy noob BS imba"



It's rather the opposite, just look at some LR when Heart played.
Doublestandard TL strikes again.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 11:28:39
September 19 2012 11:28 GMT
#1416
On September 19 2012 20:24 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:21 zerious wrote:

On September 19 2012 20:14 FakeDeath wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:13 ffrozenfish wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:10 Ysellian wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:09 Caihead wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:07 Niflheim wrote:
wow .. championship material right there in rain


It's funny because Sun was a relative B-teamer in BW on SKT1


How many BW a-teamers are performing well actually? Flash and MVP?

pretty sure Sun is not a b-teamer on SKT1


Sun was a B-teamer in SKT.
This is a fact.

But this isn't the case anymore.


Look at his BW record last year and this year.


You have a SKT1 logo, you do realize that you are talking about being a relative B teamer in the past on SKT1 right? When proleague is a Bo7 with ace match and you have Fantasy Bisu Best? By.Sun's never made it past preliminaries in individual leagues in the past.
This is just semantics, but B teamer doesn't usually mean "not S class". Somebody who played regularly in proleague wasn't a B teamer. Now you could argue that Sun wasn't quite an A teamer yet, but he was clearly on the path.
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
September 19 2012 11:28 GMT
#1417
so many butthurt people

cry, cry, its delicious
sudosu
Profile Joined October 2011
France120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 11:28:49
September 19 2012 11:28 GMT
#1418
On September 19 2012 20:25 Yagami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:24 Ysellian wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:23 iAmiAnC wrote:
Biggest map ever, distance instantly gets negated by the magic of Warp Gate. Don't think I can watch this impending bullshit...


Indeed this is the biggest bullshit in SC2 IMO.

If you could go CC first and rush a factory with 2 marines without being punished....

THAT would be bullshit


Yeah it's known for a long time that warpgate negates map size and defender advantage, but it's not going to change, so going cc first with the the follow up polt did is way risky, nothing to complain about here indeed.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 19 2012 11:28 GMT
#1419
On September 19 2012 20:26 oneofthem wrote:
some kid inventing this new concept 'relative' b-teamer and fails to defend it, all teh while asking people to conform to his concept. very nie


... Alright. Thanks for the name calling :/ Like I already said, Proleague was Bo7 with Ace (before that it was bloody Bo5), never being sent out in the first year, being on SKT1 with FBB, never making it past qualifiers, yea, he was a B-teamer.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 11:30:06
September 19 2012 11:28 GMT
#1420
On September 19 2012 20:22 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:20 ElephantBaby wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:14 FakeDeath wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:13 ffrozenfish wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:10 Ysellian wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:09 Caihead wrote:
On September 19 2012 20:07 Niflheim wrote:
wow .. championship material right there in rain


It's funny because Sun was a relative B-teamer in BW on SKT1


How many BW a-teamers are performing well actually? Flash and MVP?

pretty sure Sun is not a b-teamer on SKT1


Sun was a B-teamer in SKT.
This is a fact.

But this isn't the case anymore.


Do you even know what a B-teamer is? Idra is a B-teamer, Nony is a B-teamer, and tons of other Koreans, they nearly never play official games except GOMTV classic tournament.

By.Sun has a 31-31 50% record in BW, it is very good, this record will always be a main force in any proleague teams. Top 3 in some team is not an exaggeration.


Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:09 Caihead wrote:
It's funny because Sun was a relative B-teamer in BW on SKT1


The word relative doesn't make it correct. There is no relativity in this. For Proleague teams they actually have B-team before, separate training. So it is a black and white difference, he is on A-team, so he is an A-teamer.

And I just noticed I was replying somebody else's comment, not yours.
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