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10734
Profile Joined September 2012
340 Posts
September 15 2012 21:46 GMT
#4981
I feel like Lucifron could have made a bit less starports and reactors on the others, or some ravens. In the end the 2-3 thors could have made a difference.
Skelith
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden101 Posts
September 15 2012 21:46 GMT
#4982
On September 16 2012 06:43 kaokentake wrote:
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On September 16 2012 06:39 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:38 Slangen wrote:
Infestors is a good thing to have to even up supply.


infestors and queens are so cost efficient late game, every zerg just have a handful of queens late game for transfuse


transfuse is the most un-needed ability in the game and should not exist

queens are already good. why the fukk does a 150 mineral 2food unit that beats 2marines and is better than a hydra at anti air with longer range at spawning pool tech get massive healing capacity equal to medivacs (lategame with 8queens and 200food army, spam a few on ultras/broodlords easily and thats massive healing wtf)


So.. remove queen heal and medivacs? ok ill take that.
"There is no rest in the dark realm."
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
September 15 2012 21:46 GMT
#4983
Im surprised terrans still fail to incorporate ravens into that lategame thor tank helion viking composition.
A few turrets in front of your tank lines makes it almost impossible for ultras to get through to the tanks.
Once ultras reach a siege tank cluster its game over for them, if you have turrets in front of those tanks however, sort of like a little maze, ultras just dont fit through and have to kill the turrets first.
Given the ultras size, it takes surprisingly long for them to take down these FREE turrets, which buys the tanks a lot more time to do damage.
Other than that, Lucifron played pretty good.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 21:46 GMT
#4984
On September 16 2012 06:46 jalstar wrote:
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On September 16 2012 06:45 ShroudeD wrote:
16 infestors against raven?don't know guys...


Terrans should be going for ghosts against infestor/queen heavy comps.


Yeah he should have at least a few ghosts. Especially with mass infestor
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Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4985
On September 16 2012 06:46 -NegativeZero- wrote:
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On September 16 2012 06:43 nkr wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:41 zmansman17 wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:40 kaokentake wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:39 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:38 Slangen wrote:
Infestors is a good thing to have to even up supply.


infestors and queens are so cost efficient late game, every zerg just have a handful of queens late game for transfuse


transfuse is the most un-needed ability in the game and should not exist

queens are already good


Yeah that should have been Lucifron's game. He played so much better.


no he didn't :p

Yes he did, he killed over 100 drones and was ahead in supply at the start of almost every battle except towards the end. But ultra/infestor/broodlord/corruptor is just a ridiculously good composition and very hard to beat as terran.

no he didnt, cause Stephano won. shut up with your balance whine.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4986
On September 16 2012 06:46 VyingsP wrote:
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On September 16 2012 06:41 Gator wrote:
what did lucifron do wrong that game?


Nice game by Lucifron, but it's bad to be supply blocked when you need to get your 2nd banshee out, or to forget blue flame for 10minutes.


He missed a few Queen kills because of that. You could see the Queens need like 1 more shot many times, if he had the blue flame those would have been kills.
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4987
Wow, that was a nice little optimization by Lucifron. His scout came back a little early so he mined with it before throwing down a CC, lol adding efficiency when he can.
snowfox330
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada61 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4988
To be fair, Stephano probably isn't performing at the top of his potential. Just look at the APM tabs that they show occasionally. Stephano has been hanging around at the 150 range today and rarely ever broke 200. That's not even half of his usual 400 APM+ with 660 peak. It's obvious that he is not used to the equipment he is using right now.

That said, lucifron played well and that was still a great game.
Twilight Sparkle
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia235 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4989
On September 16 2012 06:41 Gator wrote:
what did lucifron do wrong that game?

Tried to win against Stephano.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4990
On September 16 2012 06:46 Zeon0 wrote:
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On September 16 2012 06:44 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:43 Zeon0 wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:42 Skelith wrote:
I do not understand... that engagement at the third, how the hell did stephano came out on top? o.o

Lucifrons army positioning was not the best and he had to many vikings imo


How can you say that he had too many vikings when he couldn't even shoot down the brood lords? He had too many siege tanks, he needed more thors.

how can u say he had too many tanks, when he couldnt even shoot down the ultras?


thors do way better dps to ultras and don't do splash damage to your own units ^_^
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4991
Big fish in a small pond. Stephano needs better opponents, more competition.
o choro é livre
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4992
Does anyone know how many drones he lost in game 1?
Herp Derp
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4993
On September 16 2012 06:45 Zeon0 wrote:
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On September 16 2012 06:44 TheSwedishFan wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:42 babybell wrote:
best european zerg? arguably best foreigner zerg?
DEFINITELY best foreigner.

Naniwa...

1-3 months they were pretty even, but atm Naniwa sucks tbh and Stephano continues winning everything (except MLG, wher he is "only" the best foreigner)

That's because EG offered him a contract but retracted it. They basically brought the EG curse upon him and ran. That is why Stephano is still winning, because the curse is on Naniwa now.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4994
Lucifron's biggest mistake last game was giving away his bottom right base to just six roaches.
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4995
This is going to be a quick game, either Stephano is going to win or not with his all-in :D
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4996
This might be it. T.T
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4997
On September 16 2012 06:46 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 06:45 ShroudeD wrote:
16 infestors against raven?don't know guys...


Terrans should be going for ghosts against infestor/queen heavy comps.

when you go mech, how the hell are you going to go ghost? completely different tech path and getting to it will probably get you killed.
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StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4998
Great game being ruined by rubbish comments..
Both players played great, both players made mistakes, Lucifron simply made more crucial mistakes.
Lost an OC and a bunch of workers to a few roaches in the bottom right base, kept losing engagements, not the best unit comp (too many tanks, not enough thors)
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#4999
Stephano scouted Terra via meta-game. ^^
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
September 15 2012 21:47 GMT
#5000
Lucifron needed to add Ravens or Ghosts to his composition

Stephano kept trading evenly with Lucifron's mech army and didn't needlessly lose his Infestors allowing Stephano's zerg production & economy to eventually come out ahead

Lucifron probably didn't change his late game composition because he doesn't see Zergs of Stephano's caliber often enough to change it when he wins with it against most Zergs
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