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Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4941
I felt that Lucifron would have won that game if he had his scvs repair that damn thor... it was so close. =/
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4942
lucifron should not have lost the bottom right
Then he would have made it.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4943
On September 16 2012 06:36 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 06:34 speknek wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:33 andaylin wrote:
Stephano is so fucking good.

yeah after he got outplayed for 25mins by lucifron, his decision to a-move was brilliant


i cannot help but kinda agree to this...

Z v T lategame is kinda shitty - its so much easier to win the fights as Z it seems.

it seems to be that way, but it really isn't. without perfect positioning and attack timing a-moving is suicide vs. a meching terran. stephano's engagements were more than just pure a-moving.

but both players played incredibly well, I hope we'll see two more games!
first we make expand, then we defense it.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 21:46:26
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4944
On September 16 2012 06:41 Gator wrote:
what did lucifron do wrong that game?


Yeah. I don't play Z or T, but it looked to me like Lucifron was doing a great job (although some of the Hellion harass seemed expensive; just throwing away units, IMO. But then, I'm Protoss). Did he just make a couple of crucial mistakes in that battle near Stephano's fourth? Clump Vikings a little too much and lose too many to fungals? Not have a sprinkling of marauders to take care of the Ultras? Once they got in the tank line he lost so many tanks. Maybe a few ghosts for emp or late game nukes?

Any thoughts from the Z and T players, here?
KT best KT ~ 2014
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4945
On September 16 2012 06:44 Ragnarork wrote:
Stephano just showing that he is godly at engaging armies... This is scary...

Oh and Lucifron best EU terran ? I would doubt this though he's good.


ye it's hard to say between him and thorzain, and kas but he's not here so ..
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4946
On September 16 2012 06:44 TheSwedishFan wrote:
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On September 16 2012 06:42 babybell wrote:
best european zerg? arguably best foreigner zerg?
DEFINITELY best foreigner.

Naniwa...


naniwa was good, but atm he isnt even top3 in sweden
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Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4947
On September 16 2012 06:44 TheSwedishFan wrote:
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On September 16 2012 06:42 babybell wrote:
best european zerg? arguably best foreigner zerg?
DEFINITELY best foreigner.

Naniwa...


not sure if serious.
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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4948
On September 16 2012 06:43 blade55555 wrote:
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On September 16 2012 06:42 zmansman17 wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:41 simmeh wrote:
what a win... dont know many zergs that could have pulled out that win o_O


I think most Zergs, unfortunately, are able to win that position. And it's not very hard to do. Lucifron did everything right and should have won the game


LOL. God I love wrong comments like this ^_^.


Just ignore them but it is hilarious to read
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4949
imbastors + quimba > mules armymba

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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4950
On September 16 2012 06:44 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 06:42 babybell wrote:
best european zerg? arguably best foreigner zerg?
DEFINITELY best foreigner.

Naniwa...

I'm sorry man, but not in Nani's current form, its not close right now.
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4951
On September 16 2012 06:43 Zeon0 wrote:
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On September 16 2012 06:42 Skelith wrote:
I do not understand... that engagement at the third, how the hell did stephano came out on top? o.o

Lucifrons army positioning was not the best and he had to many vikings imo


How can you say that he had too many vikings when he couldn't even shoot down the brood lords? He had too many siege tanks, he needed more thors.
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
September 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#4952
I think Lucifron's biggest mistake was early on, when he suicided all his hellions into Stephano's natural. It hurts me when terrans do that. He gave away all map control, allowing Stephano to counterattack and do way way more damage to Lucifron's third than what Stephano took from the hellion suicide.
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
September 15 2012 21:45 GMT
#4953
On September 16 2012 06:42 tyner wrote:
just woke up but, Lucifron looked way better in that game

He did early one, but then committed a lot of mistake. His tank placement was especially shaky.
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
September 15 2012 21:45 GMT
#4954
On September 16 2012 06:44 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 06:42 babybell wrote:
best european zerg? arguably best foreigner zerg?
DEFINITELY best foreigner.

Naniwa...


Is not even in these european finals
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Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
September 15 2012 21:45 GMT
#4955
Lucifron lost almost all the engagements and was unable to secure a sustainable economy.

Stephano won almost all his engagements and was decently saturated on 2 base.

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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 21:45 GMT
#4956
On September 16 2012 06:43 kaokentake wrote:
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On September 16 2012 06:39 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:38 Slangen wrote:
Infestors is a good thing to have to even up supply.


infestors and queens are so cost efficient late game, every zerg just have a handful of queens late game for transfuse


transfuse is the most un-needed ability in the game and should not exist

queens are already good. why the fukk does a 150 mineral 2food unit that beats 2marines and is better than a hydra at anti air with longer range at spawning pool tech get massive healing capacity equal to medivacs (lategame with 8queens and 200food army, spam a few on ultras/broodlords easily and thats massive healing wtf)


The problem is bringing those queens ruins the balance of viking v. corrupter/blord and makes it even easier for Zergs to win after achieving air dominance.

Not to mention transfuse.

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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 15 2012 21:45 GMT
#4957
On September 16 2012 06:44 Pure-SC2 wrote:
So sad that so many can't just accept that was an amazingly close game, with both players trading back and forth, and that in the end, the one that chose the best engagements won. If anything, that game made SC2 seems so incredibly balanced and it was a pleasure to watch.

Stop being so butthurt all the time.


This. It's always a shame that in LR threads no matter who wins/loses it's due to balance :/.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
September 15 2012 21:45 GMT
#4958
On September 16 2012 06:43 Slardar wrote:
That was an absolutely amazing game. Best of the tournament so far.... (I heard Ret vs Grubby game3 was amazing though)


Yeah, with a very climatic ending.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
September 15 2012 21:45 GMT
#4959
It's even harder to get a 5th on Antiga than CK, go bio or a mech timing Lucifron please, save your turtle mech for Ohana. :p
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
September 15 2012 21:45 GMT
#4960
16 infestors against raven?don't know guys...
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
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