EPTStop with the balance whining, it stephano after all.
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stfouri
Finland272 Posts
Stop with the balance whining, it stephano after all. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:42 zmansman17 wrote: I think most Zergs, unfortunately, are able to win that position. And it's not very hard to do. Lucifron did everything right and should have won the game Wrong...so wrong, so wrong. If you can't see the delicate precision in the micro in Stephano's play, then you're seriously missing out. Only a selected few could've possibly done what Stephano did to pull that game back in the fasion he did it. Of course, Lucifron played freaking brilliant as well. It was just an overall fucking amazing game. | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
1-3 months they were pretty even, but atm Naniwa sucks tbh and Stephano continues winning everything (except MLG, wher he is "only" the best foreigner) | ||
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
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Swiipii
2195 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:42 Flonomenalz wrote: Luci outplayed Stephano up until the late game. No transition into any spell casters to nullify the infestors or BLs... he could have made ghosts for EMPs. He could have turtled into Ravens. He never sent a hellion to clear out the burrowed ling that stopped his bottom right base from ever landing for minutes upon minutes. No QQ. You simply need spellcasters against other spellcasters. Tanks were doing the job pretty fine . But transfuses and a big win in their first huge fights gave Stephano the game (Luci didn't have the time to siege all of his tanks) . | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8307 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:44 Kala23 wrote: he lost track of the 3 roaches killing 15 scvs or more bottom right also small mistake when he flew his cc over 6-8 infested terrans just before they expired other than that flawless Could've used BFH upgrade earlier as well and, though it's weird, building armor upgrade woulda gone a LOOOONG way that game | ||
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Fjodorov
5007 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:43 kaokentake wrote: transfuse is the most un-needed ability in the game and should not exist queens are already good. why the fukk does a 150 mineral 2food unit that beats 2marines and is better than a hydra at anti air with longer range at spawning pool tech get massive healing capacity equal to medivacs (lategame with 8queens and 200food army, spam a few on ultras/broodlords easily and thats massive healing wtf) I think it exists because of the micro aspect. It rewards multitasking. But when players are good enough, like stephano, then yeah its seems like they should atleast increaste the energy cost. | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
Naniwa didn't even qualify to the European championship I just wanna say while Stephano was doing +300 APM Luci was doing 100  | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
just imagine how good he would be without the curse. EG just wanted to save competition so games are atleast close. | ||
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:42 Zeon0 wrote: shut up. nobody wants to hear your balance whine Hey buddy, take your medicine and get some sleep because I think you are fucked up in your head. Lucifron played a beautiful game and to many people myself included, he seemed like a better player that game. That's an opinion and if you can't handle different opinions and start accusing them as balance whine, you better leave the god damn forum. User was warned for this post | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:44 Fragile51 wrote: How can you say that he had too many vikings when he couldn't even shoot down the brood lords? He had too many siege tanks, he needed more thors. I agree with the more thors thing, Mvp used more thors than tanks at IEM and it seemed to work out much better for him, also +3 armor would have been good. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:42 zmansman17 wrote: I think most Zergs, unfortunately, are able to win that position. And it's not very hard to do. Lucifron did everything right and should have won the game its a combination of them being good and infestors being in the game + Show Spoiler + a t2 caster that moves at a normal speed, has decent hp, is extremly supply/cost effecient and counters basically everything. oh i forgot to mention that its even stronger in low money situations | ||
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Derrida
2885 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:43 zmansman17 wrote: Yes, this was actually the mistake that cost the game. Had he had this base mining, he would have won imo Eh, I thought that was a fully fledged ultra-roach-infestor army, and couldn't lift as the base was planetary. | ||
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yoshi245
United States2972 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:44 Ragnarork wrote: Stephano just showing that he is godly at engaging armies... This is scary... Oh and Lucifron best EU terran ? I would doubt this though he's good. He can make a case for it, he just needs to win a big tourney or 2 and he can overtake the title from Thorzain. Lucifron is really good nonetheless. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
sometimes, but in the fight at stephano's 4th, Lucifron killed 14 infestors | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:45 ShroudeD wrote: 16 infestors against raven?don't know guys... Terrans should be going for ghosts against infestor/queen heavy comps. | ||
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VyingsP
France174 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:41 Gator wrote: what did lucifron do wrong that game? Nice game by Lucifron, but it's bad to be supply blocked when you need to get your 2nd banshee out, or to forget blue flame for 10minutes. | ||
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:44 Fragile51 wrote: How can you say that he had too many vikings when he couldn't even shoot down the brood lords? He had too many siege tanks, he needed more thors. Yeah this is the issue. Obviously he did not have enough vikings, since he never once killed all the Blords. Yet even with the amount of vikings he had (and even supply), the Ultra/ling A-moved through all of Lucifron's force | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:45 Derrida wrote: Eh, I thought that was a fully fledged ultra-roach-infestor army, and couldn't lift as the base was planetary. Yes, I remember Stephano sending at least 5 ultras to kill that base. Yes he did, he killed over 100 drones and was ahead in supply at the start of almost every battle except towards the end. But ultra/infestor/broodlord/corruptor is just a ridiculously good composition and very hard to beat as terran. | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
On September 16 2012 06:44 Fragile51 wrote: How can you say that he had too many vikings when he couldn't even shoot down the brood lords? He had too many siege tanks, he needed more thors. how can u say he had too many tanks, when he couldnt even shoot down the ultras? | ||
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