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Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 18:13:27
September 15 2012 18:12 GMT
#3041
On September 16 2012 03:10 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 03:05 zmansman17 wrote:
On September 16 2012 03:01 Godwrath wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:59 MangoMountain wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:58 zmansman17 wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:57 mememolly wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:55 revel8 wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:53 mememolly wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:52 bigtabs wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:48 MangoMountain wrote:
The game shouldn't be balanced around shitty foreigners too lazy to practice


Zerg and Toss foreigners aren't lazy...


yeah they win GSL all the time . . .


Only 4 Terrans have won GSL. Ever. Are the others just lazy?


how many GSL winners were foreigner, regardless of race?


Naniwa was our closest.

Wasn't that Jinro?


Yep, a lazy terran getting better results than a full-time protoss... if we use some people on this post logic.


Calling foreigners like Kas lazy is ridiculous. It's not simply a matter of working hard, there's a cultural element here as well. In Seoul, it's much more accepted to spend huge quantities of time with electronic sports. It's also more feasible for these players to follow a regiment such as this. The west is not as developed in this way, and this is certainly one of the reasons we see less foreigners achieving the same results as koreans.


Look, the truth at foreigner skill level, terran is the hardest to get results and zerg the easier (forgive me for using those terms, no disrespect intended to any player, just bad english, hope you get my point)

Right now, at Korean level protoss is the easiest to get results, and i think (correct me if i am wrong) zerg is the hardest.

The point is, do you balance the game around koreans ? That would increase the gap at the foreigner scene even more. Same if you only for the foreigner scene. That's why balancing isn't easy, and even if people thinks blizzard "should" balance only for top top top players, truth is, they never intended to do that.


What a weird way of looking at things.

Have you considered that players like Stephano and Nerchio are simply better than there fellow European Terran counter parts.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
September 15 2012 18:12 GMT
#3042
On September 16 2012 03:11 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 03:11 mememolly wrote:
On September 16 2012 03:09 mec wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:43 Youtakenocandle wrote:
So EG has one player than wins games in tournaments now: Stephano


Without a EG shirt and using his millenium account.. HMMMM


clean shaven and seen drinking a red bull? hmmmmmm

Sober? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


no gym membership? hmmmmmmmmm
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
September 15 2012 18:13 GMT
#3043
Dem cheers.
Leru
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Romania257 Posts
September 15 2012 18:13 GMT
#3044
Lol @Tasteless : "Would be unproffesionally of me not to call Stephano the favourite " .. Dude, most of the time it would be proffesional for you to zip it ..
Less e$ports, more fun
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
September 15 2012 18:13 GMT
#3045
On September 16 2012 03:04 Doubting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 03:00 Qwerty85 wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:50 Doubting wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:47 pmp10 wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:43 zerino wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:40 pmp10 wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:38 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:38 pmp10 wrote:
So at least a single terran made it.
This will save blizzard some embarrassment.


You mean it saves the foreign terrans some embarassment?

No I mean blizzard.
The 'they are all just bad' line only goes so far and wouldn't quite work if only 3 qualified.


Too bad koreans are simply better, and ower there terrans do well, Kind of destroys the argument, You could argue that terrans
have a harder time playing at top lvl and you therefor need top korean apm and multitasking though, while the slow engame zerg army doesnt require that much.

Game is played in other places than Korea and blizzards work needs to reflect that.
But since 4 terrans are confirmed now we can go back to 'had it coming' and 'Taeja'.
Business as usual.

No Blizzard should balance to the highest level and foreign Terrans should have to work harder to get there. I wish that more Koreans would enter foreign tournaments so all these bad and under performing foreigners would have to retire.


Lol,I'm not sure if you are trolling or really believe foreign zerg and protoss players are simply more hardworking/talented than foreign terran players..

Anyway it is rubbish.

Game may be balanced at highest level of play but foreign scene tells a lot about race difficulty and judging from that same international scene, terran is the hardest race to get results with.

I do believe that or they would be doing just as well as Korean Terrans. Terran has won many tournaments, has the most players in the RO16 of this GSL(as well as the last one and the one before that) and the Korean win rates support this. Excuses are keeping foreign Terrans back imo.


Korea has almost a fanatic - like culture when it comes to practice. They aren't like that only in computer games but also other areas, for example music. It is completely different work ethic than western culture.

At the same time is is stupid to take, lets say 300 pros from western culture like whole europe, or america, or australia etc. and simply say that, for some reason all those 100 terrans are simply lazier than those 100 zergs or 100 protoss.

They are all brought up with similar attitude towards gaming and work ethic.

If you claim foreign terrans are more lazy than foreign protoss or zerg, you would actually need to show some numbers to back it up, since your claim is less likely (all players of x race are lazy) than mine claim about race difficulty.

Just take Kas for example, who practices more than any other foreign player in the scene...
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
September 15 2012 18:13 GMT
#3046
even 720p doesn't work I'm getting sick of this shit
YoloStar <3
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
September 15 2012 18:13 GMT
#3047
Tasteless is the worst at filling time..
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 18:14:20
September 15 2012 18:13 GMT
#3048
On September 16 2012 03:11 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 03:09 mec wrote:
On September 16 2012 02:43 Youtakenocandle wrote:
So EG has one player than wins games in tournaments now: Stephano


Without a EG shirt and using his millenium account.. HMMMM


clean shaven and seen drinking a red bull? hmmmmmm

red bull? that's clearly not EG. They only drink monster energy drink!
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
September 15 2012 18:13 GMT
#3049
why does 720+ lag now? it wasnt before this stephano match
IM & EG supporter
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 18:14:53
September 15 2012 18:14 GMT
#3050
On September 16 2012 03:11 pedrlz wrote:
I created an account just to say: BabyK rules.


id say thats a legit purpose for an account.

gogogo stephano ezpz 2-0 :D

if lowely dosnt ling all in him and steph is 2 greedy hah

edit: ofc as i say this steph is the aggressor gg
(>*-*)><( *-* )><(*-*<) DoDTimber on Bnet
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 15 2012 18:14 GMT
#3051
On September 16 2012 03:10 Xoronius wrote:
To all guys asking, why Stephano is´nt wearing an EG-shirt: It is likely, that it has been lost with the rest of his stuff during the flight.

ah that explains it. i just woke up and was wondering. thank you for the info.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
September 15 2012 18:14 GMT
#3052
On September 16 2012 03:13 FaRess wrote:
even 720p doesn't work I'm getting sick of this shit


Works and have worked flawless for me the whole day :S
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 15 2012 18:14 GMT
#3053
On September 16 2012 03:13 AgentChaos wrote:
why does 720+ lag now? it wasnt before this stephano match

I have mine on 240. Any more and my computer freezes like crazy
Life: The New Champion!!
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 18:15:35
September 15 2012 18:14 GMT
#3054
On September 16 2012 03:10 haroz wrote:
last chance to break the EG curse here


EG players always win their first big tournament after signing though:


HuK won MLG Orlando
Puma won an IEM
Thorzain won WCS Sweden
Now it's Stephano's turn

+ Show Spoiler +
JYP? Who's that? Never heard of him. Suppy shall have his day soon enough.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 18:15:55
September 15 2012 18:14 GMT
#3055
On September 16 2012 03:09 Psychonian wrote:
STEPHANO FIGHTING!

G1: 0:00 (Z)LoWeLy spawns top right on Cloud Kingdom
0:00 (Z)Stephano spawns bottom left on Cloud Kingdom


4:41 (Z)Stephano begins Metabolic Boost
6:00 Huge swell of Zerglings by (Z)Stephano, (Z)LoWeLy walls off
7:00 Attack completely deflected by (Z)LoWeLy
Trans Rights
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
September 15 2012 18:15 GMT
#3056
Lol, very cute walloff
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
September 15 2012 18:15 GMT
#3057
Nice reaction by LoWeLy to wall-off like that and with Roaches to defend.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
September 15 2012 18:15 GMT
#3058
On September 16 2012 03:13 FaRess wrote:
even 720p doesn't work I'm getting sick of this shit


Be a man and watch the italian stream, you won't regret it.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
September 15 2012 18:15 GMT
#3059
On September 16 2012 03:15 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 03:13 FaRess wrote:
even 720p doesn't work I'm getting sick of this shit


Be a man and watch the italian stream, you won't regret it.



True that. He is hilarious :D
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Master_Blaster
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom269 Posts
September 15 2012 18:15 GMT
#3060
On September 16 2012 03:14 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 03:10 haroz wrote:
last chance to break the EG curse here


EG players always win their first big tournament after signing though:


HuK won MLG Orlando
Puma won an IEM
Thorzain won WCS Sweden
Now it's Stephano's turn


Oh, you broke the code pattern. So we now know for a fact the winner.
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