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On September 14 2012 07:33 Lonyo wrote:
Hasn't Nerchio done enough in offline tournaments where he couldn't have cheated to give him at least some credit that he has actual skill?
He has. People are right about the delay and stuff but I really wonder why this discussion always pops up with nerchio. I guess he is just too good, it was the same with Stephano before he attended every offline tournament there is.
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I am incredibly dissappointed by Take and Naruto that they openly suspect Nerchio to streamcheat in their tourney.
The only possible suspect thing was that Nerchio didnt rush in the game where ForGG didnt go CC first. There is no other possible evidence or proof. It just continues very old rumours about Nerchio cheating which were never proven.
Imho Nerchio deserves an apology here.
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Anyway thanks to Take and his crew, all the players and the casters and sponsors for an entertaining tournament.
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On September 14 2012 07:37 00Visor wrote:
I am incredibly dissappointed by Take and Naruto that they openly suspect Nerchio to streamcheat in their tourney.
The only possible suspect thing was that Nerchio didnt rush in the game where ForGG didnt go CC first. There is no other possible evidence or proof. It just continues very old rumours about Nerchio cheating which were never proven.
Imho Nerchio deserves an apology here.
They did? what a farce
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On September 14 2012 07:35 pmp10 wrote:
That was an unfortunate ending but not unexpected - forgg always had a thing for early aggression and would usually win with it or die trying.
The HotS unit usage was indeed rather low but I still think that it will get better with time - unfortunately in many cases a real revolutionary example will be required.
Hopefully we'll get another tournament when next few patches invalidate everything learned today.
I think the players are still not comfortable and don't know the exact merits and flaws of the new units so when it matters they resort to what they know in-and-out.
Still, I thought the warhound was so incredibly good it should have shown more
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On September 14 2012 07:37 00Visor wrote:
I am incredibly dissappointed by Take and Naruto that they openly suspect Nerchio to streamcheat in their tourney.
The only possible suspect thing was that Nerchio didnt rush in the game where ForGG didnt go CC first. There is no other possible evidence or proof. It just continues very old rumours about Nerchio cheating which were never proven.
Imho Nerchio deserves an apology here.
he has a history with accusations
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On September 14 2012 07:39 mijagi182 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 07:37 00Visor wrote:
I am incredibly dissappointed by Take and Naruto that they openly suspect Nerchio to streamcheat in their tourney.
The only possible suspect thing was that Nerchio didnt rush in the game where ForGG didnt go CC first. There is no other possible evidence or proof. It just continues very old rumours about Nerchio cheating which were never proven.
Imho Nerchio deserves an apology here. They did? what a farce
No they did not, they were only joking around, Take said they are always teasing him with that, but he was just joking. They did say that many other people still suspect him though.
Anyway, I'm out of here, but congratulations to Nerchio, ForGG, Sheth and Fraer and thanks to take and co for this great tournament!!!
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On September 14 2012 07:37 00Visor wrote:
I am incredibly dissappointed by Take and Naruto that they openly suspect Nerchio to streamcheat in their tourney.
The only possible suspect thing was that Nerchio didnt rush in the game where ForGG didnt go CC first. There is no other possible evidence or proof. It just continues very old rumours about Nerchio cheating which were never proven.
Imho Nerchio deserves an apology here.
Are you trying to create drama or why this post?
Naruto just explicitely wrote in this thread that he does NOT believe Nerchio streamcheats.
On September 14 2012 07:26 Type|NarutO wrote:
I don't think Nerchio does streamcheat, but I can understand that forGG feels like he is cheating. 3 times he played cc first, gas first into reactor hellion. One time he did not. 3 times there was the exact counter, one time Nerchio didn't use it.
Thats just how it goes , but forGG could just start scouting, because he could change his build then.
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On September 14 2012 07:37 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 07:33 Lonyo wrote:
Hasn't Nerchio done enough in offline tournaments where he couldn't have cheated to give him at least some credit that he has actual skill? He has. People are right about the delay and stuff but I really wonder why this discussion always pops up with nerchio. I guess he is just too good, it was the same with Stephano before he attended every offline tournament there is.
That's because nerchio has been suspected ever since he broke into the scene.
Part of that was obviously due to his manner at the time (or lack thereof) which made him an easy suspect.
Every once in a while the suspicions are reinforced by various incidents like the one today and so the story goes on.
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Solo casting is rough... Especially for 8 hours 
I want to thank TakeTV for letting me do casting in English, mTwDimaga for lending a HotS account for casting, the TakeTV crew for all the work they put in to managing a second stream and finally Sheth for giving me a bit of a break by co-casting a series.
I had a blast. I know my style of casting will never please everyone (nothing will). I also definitely do need to work on other aspects of my observing and finding some way to fill space while players sit in their bases and slowly build up armies (my brain and voice are already fried without having done so!).
Anyway, it is what it is - Thanks for tuning in! :D
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Was Naruto really joking about this?
Not a good point to joke about and it didnt seem like that for me.
But I take Narutos statement here.
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On September 14 2012 07:43 y0su wrote:Solo casting is rough... Especially for 8 hours I want to thank TakeTV for letting me do casting in English, mTwDimaga for lending a HotS account for casting, the TakeTV crew for all the work they put in to managing a second stream and finally Sheth for giving me a bit of a break by co-casting a series. I had a blast. I know my style of casting will never please everyone (nothing will). I also definitely do need to work on other aspects of my observing and finding some way to fill space while players sit in their bases and slowly build up armies (my brain and voice are already fried without having done so!). Anyway, it is what it is - Thanks for tuning in! :D
Thanks a lot for casting it !!
And please to those of you accusing Nerchio a cheating.. stop being silly this was a fun casual tournament, don't turn it into more drama.
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Nerchio can be found quite often in streamchats of tournaments he plays in and when the people in chat realise that is the "real" Nerchio, he talks in chat as if it's a normal thing to be in there while playing. It's quite funny actually. Maybe it is? I don't know.
But to be honest it's the tournament organizers fault for not putting on enough delay. Yeah i know dishing out commercials is a pain in the ass with delay because they pop up when the game is already running and stuff like that.
Not saying he cheats or whatever, he'll roll the WCS Europe aswell. Strongest mindgame player in my opinion and the fact he plays zerg doesn't hurt either.
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This finals was just one entire mindgame, and quite frankly I loved every second of it. Me and my roommate were watching, and once that 7RR was revealed for the third time, we couldn't stop laughing. I do not believe Nerchio stream cheated though. First RR; ok, a regular cheese. Then Nerchio figured forGG wouldn't expect another 7RR and he didn't. Then obviously he had to switch it up, because even forGG wouldn't refrain from scouting the third game. After some colossal mistakes from forGG (letting those mutas decimate the minerals likes while there were idle thors in his base), he went back to his regular build, inviting Nerchio to punish this way of play again.
IMO best mindgames I've ever seen.
Also thanks for casting y0su!
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On September 14 2012 07:56 Henk wrote:
This finals was just one entire mindgame, and quite frankly I loved every second of it. Me and my roommate were watching, and once that 7RR was revealed for the third time, we couldn't stop laughing. I do not believe Nerchio stream cheated though. First RR; ok, a regular cheese. Then Nerchio figured forGG wouldn't expect another 7RR and he didn't. Then obviously he had to switch it up, because even forGG wouldn't refrain from scouting the third game. After some colossal mistakes from forGG (letting those mutas decimate the minerals likes while there were idle thors in his base), he went back to his regular build, inviting Nerchio to punish this way of play again.
IMO best mindgames I've ever seen.
Also thanks for casting y0su!
Glad you enjoyed it 
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final was just entertaining : ) gg
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On September 14 2012 07:37 00Visor wrote:
I am incredibly dissappointed by Take and Naruto that they openly suspect Nerchio to streamcheat in their tourney.
The only possible suspect thing was that Nerchio didnt rush in the game where ForGG didnt go CC first. There is no other possible evidence or proof. It just continues very old rumours about Nerchio cheating which were never proven.
Imho Nerchio deserves an apology here.
In 3rd game when Forgg didnt go CC first he scouted main of Nerchio with scv so he decide to go hatch 15, but of course ppl will say it was blind counter
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On September 14 2012 07:37 00Visor wrote:
I am incredibly dissappointed by Take and Naruto that they openly suspect Nerchio to streamcheat in their tourney.
The only possible suspect thing was that Nerchio didnt rush in the game where ForGG didnt go CC first. There is no other possible evidence or proof. It just continues very old rumours about Nerchio cheating which were never proven.
Imho Nerchio deserves an apology here.
Hey Mister,
you should stop talking bullshit. I myself didnt do that ! Yes we were doing some fun and NarutO said that it was abit "crazy" that the only game forgg didnt play cc first nerchio didnt play a early pool but first of all I didnt say that and at least we can discuss this and have our own opinion about that.
I respect nerchio as a great player and i dont think he is cheating! But still thier are points where think - wtf !??!
//Dennis
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forgg has been doing the same 2 base all in for the last 9 months or so, not hard for nerchio to BO win him, be more amazed if he didn't tbh
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