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CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
September 11 2012 12:18 GMT
#461
I thought for sure Flash was dead during MC's attack, sick hold.
BW4LIFE
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 11 2012 12:18 GMT
#462
On September 11 2012 21:16 ZachFreeman wrote:
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On September 11 2012 21:15 Kommander wrote:
You know what's more scary? Warhounds in Flash's hands. I dread at the thought of 200 supply Warhounds in a matter of 10 minutes. O__O

warhounds in any half decent players hands is a scary thought..


Yeah but the scary thing about it is that with Flash's godly macro, maxed Warhounds can be done in a matter of 10 minutes, maybe even less.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
September 11 2012 12:18 GMT
#463
On September 11 2012 21:16 Asha` wrote:
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On September 11 2012 21:13 virpi wrote:
On September 11 2012 21:12 nweb wrote:
On September 11 2012 21:11 jammedk wrote:
That is some beastly macro by Flash


You mean where he was 169/169 supply and started 4 depots at the same time?

watch his mineral count and his min / gas ratio. both look very very near to the highest level.
the little block at 169 didn't matter that much, as he was way ahead at that point.


Has anyone seen his rax queues lately? I know for a fact that a few months back he was queueing a lot, but I've not paid enough attention to see whether he's cleaned that up since.


He had like 9 raxes at the end of the game so i think he definitely fixed that. Considering he shot up from 120 supply to 200 in just a matter of minutes as well.
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
September 11 2012 12:18 GMT
#464
You gotta give him credit. A single misclick = GG at that timing especially when the T tries to defend both his 3rd/nat.. and pulling scvs.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
September 11 2012 12:19 GMT
#465
On September 11 2012 21:17 xN.07)MaK wrote:
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On September 11 2012 21:16 Mrwl wrote:
lol at the "MC lost that more than Flash won it" excuse, I see it every game where a kespa player wins.


Similar to the "they are still catching up, wait for a couple of months and we'll see" excuse when Kespa players lose.

The difference being that one argument is legitimate
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 11 2012 12:19 GMT
#466
On September 11 2012 21:18 YyapSsap wrote:
You gotta give him credit. A single misclick = GG at that timing especially when the T tries to defend both his 3rd/nat.. and pulling scvs.


You don't defend your third and nat. You float your third back to your main and pull the scv's to your nat.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
September 11 2012 12:19 GMT
#467
On September 11 2012 21:13 J1.au wrote:
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On September 11 2012 21:12 Waxangel wrote:
but yeah flash did exactly what he had to on his end, to his credit, but I think MC lost more than Flash won

Weaker players will find ways to lose. Nothing surprising about that.


fanboys always find excuses for losses

if Flash had lost this you'd be all "this game didnt matter anyway"
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
September 11 2012 12:19 GMT
#468
The force is strong in broodwar players .....
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
September 11 2012 12:20 GMT
#469
On September 11 2012 21:18 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 21:16 ZachFreeman wrote:
On September 11 2012 21:15 Kommander wrote:
You know what's more scary? Warhounds in Flash's hands. I dread at the thought of 200 supply Warhounds in a matter of 10 minutes. O__O

warhounds in any half decent players hands is a scary thought..


Yeah but the scary thing about it is that with Flash's godly macro, maxed Warhounds can be done in a matter of 10 minutes, maybe even less.



From Stephano Roach max to Flash Warhound max.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 11 2012 12:20 GMT
#470
On September 11 2012 21:19 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 21:17 xN.07)MaK wrote:
On September 11 2012 21:16 Mrwl wrote:
lol at the "MC lost that more than Flash won it" excuse, I see it every game where a kespa player wins.


Similar to the "they are still catching up, wait for a couple of months and we'll see" excuse when Kespa players lose.

The difference being that one argument is legitimate


Because... you say it. They are both excuses.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
September 11 2012 12:20 GMT
#471
That macro's pretty normal for a 3 base terran with proper saturation and 9 rax. No surprise MC couldn't hold it after his failed 3-4 colossus push. Was an excellent hold by Flash though - did anyone identify how he did it? Was it MC's micro that fucked everything up or was it Flash building bunkers?
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 12:20:55
September 11 2012 12:20 GMT
#472
On September 11 2012 21:18 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 21:16 Mrwl wrote:
lol at the "MC lost that more than Flash won it" excuse, I see it every game where a kespa player wins.


Kind of true. MC had zealots behind stalkers, not very good positioning, easily lost colossi...


What's also true is that about every single protoss gom pro on SC2 always have zealots behind stalkers and bad positionning.
With the awesome exceptions of Squirtle and Seed.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
September 11 2012 12:21 GMT
#473
On September 11 2012 21:18 ChoiSulli wrote:
I thought for sure Flash was dead during MC's attack, sick hold.



I just noticed your sig. haha



On September 11 2012 21:20 Evangelist wrote:
That macro's pretty normal for a 3 base terran with proper saturation and 9 rax. No surprise MC couldn't hold it after his failed 3-4 colossus push. Was an excellent hold by Flash though - did anyone identify how he did it? Was it MC's micro that fucked everything up or was it Flash building bunkers?



He let his Colossi get sniped.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
September 11 2012 12:21 GMT
#474
Please don't turn this into Kespa vs GOM wars, or say that MC lost instead of Flash winning. Flash identified what MC was doing and he defended it with ease, showing great macro and map presence the entire game. And this against arguably the best protoss in the world. Give credit where credit is due, don't hate.
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
September 11 2012 12:21 GMT
#475
.....and they said Kespa players would get raped.
So Flash 3-0 his group, MC 2-1, both advances.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
September 11 2012 12:21 GMT
#476
[image loading]
Honor for Flash just because thread got closed too soon...

User was warned for this post
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 11 2012 12:22 GMT
#477
On September 11 2012 21:20 Evangelist wrote:
That macro's pretty normal for a 3 base terran with proper saturation and 9 rax. No surprise MC couldn't hold it after his failed 3-4 colossus push. Was an excellent hold by Flash though - did anyone identify how he did it? Was it MC's micro that fucked everything up or was it Flash building bunkers?


I would say both. Nothing in the line + poor control of the collosus/stalker + nice defense by Flash.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
September 11 2012 12:22 GMT
#478
flash hold that with more units than any T player i've ever seen, still needs good micro tho
GoingGoingGone
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Slovakia529 Posts
September 11 2012 12:22 GMT
#479
Get him Oz, I believe in you!!
Busy night, but there's always room for another... unless the servers are down.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
September 11 2012 12:23 GMT
#480
On September 11 2012 21:20 Evangelist wrote:
That macro's pretty normal for a 3 base terran with proper saturation and 9 rax. No surprise MC couldn't hold it after his failed 3-4 colossus push. Was an excellent hold by Flash though - did anyone identify how he did it? Was it MC's micro that fucked everything up or was it Flash building bunkers?

kind of both. mc's first set of forcefields wasn't optimal, then he failed to snipe the vikings with his stalkers, which led to the loss of the colossi. flash's bunkers helped him a lot, he then moved on to kill the push with a superior concave. mc's zealot positioning wasn't optimal, too.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
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