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On September 04 2012 02:26 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 01:44 antifan wrote:On September 04 2012 00:32 DrPandaPhD wrote:On September 04 2012 00:11 antifan wrote:
Games like the final set makes me wish GSL had extended series for certain people. Parting is clearly the superior player but got cheeses out and/choked. Oh well. At least seed made it out. Hopefully Leenock loses in round of 16. Parting got outplayed the first map in the first series and proceed to 2base immortal all in and 2base blink stalker nexus cancel all in. How is that any different to what Leenock did? The bias here.. The immortal allin and blink allin were just parting playing more intelligent than Leenock. The "macro games" was just parting being nervous on stage and making mistake after mistake after mistake so it was 100% parting's loss. Leenock has played longer so it only makes sense that he doesn't get stage fright as easily. Parting is a newer player so he got nervous like any new player. Overall, parting is the better player but has a case of nerves unlike Leenock who has been playing since forever and still hasn't won a GSL. You really just sound like a very bitter PartinG fan, there's not much logic in your arguments tbh.
I am not a parting fan what so ever. I am a fan of good games and the first set between them where parting won were good games but the second set where leenock won were God awful. People thought neatea vs Inca was bad? They haven't seen set two of parting vs Leenock in gsl 4 2012 ro32 group a. That set is one of the worst sets in gsl history. Even worse than mvp vs leenock in November or any other games where Leenock wins. I'm not anti Leenock fan, just objectively looking for good games with no bias thoughts. I just think Leenock is too overrated. People treat him like he's jaedong in his bw prime
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On September 04 2012 01:44 antifan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 00:32 DrPandaPhD wrote:On September 04 2012 00:11 antifan wrote:
Games like the final set makes me wish GSL had extended series for certain people. Parting is clearly the superior player but got cheeses out and/choked. Oh well. At least seed made it out. Hopefully Leenock loses in round of 16. Parting got outplayed the first map in the first series and proceed to 2base immortal all in and 2base blink stalker nexus cancel all in. How is that any different to what Leenock did? The bias here.. The immortal allin and blink allin were just parting playing more intelligent than Leenock. The "macro games" was just parting being nervous on stage and making mistake after mistake after mistake so it was 100% parting's loss. Leenock has played longer so it only makes sense that he doesn't get stage fright as easily. Parting is a newer player so he got nervous like any new player. Overall, parting is the better player but has a case of nerves unlike Leenock who has been playing since forever and still hasn't won a GSL.
yea i agree with you...parting has like 10000 times more skill than leenock will ever wish he has. leenock just uses cheesy and gimicky play to win games. oh well a wins a win i guess. being a psychology major i can tell that parting is just being cocky just to hide that hes nervous. well he was not nervous when drg and mvp beat him but he was the most nervous person ever when leenock beat him. after watching the games i agree with you that it was purely partings mistakes that lost him that game. parting lost that game, leenock didnt win it
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The games weren't the best considering how good all the players were, but still a good night of starcraft! My biggest complaint is PvZ and 2 base allins. Balance or whatever aside, I feel that even if the zerg sees a 7 gate immortal allin coming, it all just comes down to whoever micros better and one small slip-up from either side will cost them the game. I'm not saying that this was completely reflective of today's games, but the fact that the matchup is so dominated by 2 base allins speaks for itself. It just takes away from the quality of the games and I wish that there'd be a way to fix this.
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So...
Leenock vs PartinG Game 1 on Cloud Kingdom - Leenock wins in macro game with BL infestor
Leenock vs PartinG Game 2 on Ohana - PartinG wins with sentry-immortal timing
Leenock vs PartinG Game 3 on Daybreak - PartinG wins with blink stalker timing
Leenock vs PartinG Game 4 on Whirlwind - Leenock wins in macro game with mutalisks
Leenock vs PartinG Game 5 on Cloud Kingdom - Leenock wins with roach-ling all-in
On September 04 2012 06:35 starception wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 01:44 antifan wrote:On September 04 2012 00:32 DrPandaPhD wrote:On September 04 2012 00:11 antifan wrote:
Games like the final set makes me wish GSL had extended series for certain people. Parting is clearly the superior player but got cheeses out and/choked. Oh well. At least seed made it out. Hopefully Leenock loses in round of 16. Parting got outplayed the first map in the first series and proceed to 2base immortal all in and 2base blink stalker nexus cancel all in. How is that any different to what Leenock did? The bias here.. The immortal allin and blink allin were just parting playing more intelligent than Leenock. The "macro games" was just parting being nervous on stage and making mistake after mistake after mistake so it was 100% parting's loss. Leenock has played longer so it only makes sense that he doesn't get stage fright as easily. Parting is a newer player so he got nervous like any new player. Overall, parting is the better player but has a case of nerves unlike Leenock who has been playing since forever and still hasn't won a GSL. parting has like 10000 times more skill than leenock will ever wish he has. leenock just uses cheesy and gimicky play to win games.
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Once again PartinG talks big, and once again he loses. Love it.
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On September 04 2012 06:44 Whatson wrote:So... Leenock vs PartinG Game 1 on Cloud Kingdom - Leenock wins in macro game with BL infestor Leenock vs PartinG Game 2 on Ohana - PartinG wins with sentry-immortal timing Leenock vs PartinG Game 3 on Daybreak - PartinG wins with blink stalker timing Leenock vs PartinG Game 4 on Whirlwind - Leenock wins in macro game with mutalisks Leenock vs PartinG Game 5 on Cloud Kingdom - Leenock wins with roach-ling all-inShow nested quote +On September 04 2012 06:35 starception wrote:On September 04 2012 01:44 antifan wrote:On September 04 2012 00:32 DrPandaPhD wrote:On September 04 2012 00:11 antifan wrote:
Games like the final set makes me wish GSL had extended series for certain people. Parting is clearly the superior player but got cheeses out and/choked. Oh well. At least seed made it out. Hopefully Leenock loses in round of 16. Parting got outplayed the first map in the first series and proceed to 2base immortal all in and 2base blink stalker nexus cancel all in. How is that any different to what Leenock did? The bias here.. The immortal allin and blink allin were just parting playing more intelligent than Leenock. The "macro games" was just parting being nervous on stage and making mistake after mistake after mistake so it was 100% parting's loss. Leenock has played longer so it only makes sense that he doesn't get stage fright as easily. Parting is a newer player so he got nervous like any new player. Overall, parting is the better player but has a case of nerves unlike Leenock who has been playing since forever and still hasn't won a GSL. parting has like 10000 times more skill than leenock will ever wish he has. leenock just uses cheesy and gimicky play to win games.
There you go thanks for proving my point. Parting is the better player but people lose sometimes oh well.
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On September 04 2012 06:48 antifan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 06:44 Whatson wrote:So... Leenock vs PartinG Game 1 on Cloud Kingdom - Leenock wins in macro game with BL infestor Leenock vs PartinG Game 2 on Ohana - PartinG wins with sentry-immortal timing Leenock vs PartinG Game 3 on Daybreak - PartinG wins with blink stalker timing Leenock vs PartinG Game 4 on Whirlwind - Leenock wins in macro game with mutalisks Leenock vs PartinG Game 5 on Cloud Kingdom - Leenock wins with roach-ling all-inOn September 04 2012 06:35 starception wrote:On September 04 2012 01:44 antifan wrote:On September 04 2012 00:32 DrPandaPhD wrote:On September 04 2012 00:11 antifan wrote:
Games like the final set makes me wish GSL had extended series for certain people. Parting is clearly the superior player but got cheeses out and/choked. Oh well. At least seed made it out. Hopefully Leenock loses in round of 16. Parting got outplayed the first map in the first series and proceed to 2base immortal all in and 2base blink stalker nexus cancel all in. How is that any different to what Leenock did? The bias here.. The immortal allin and blink allin were just parting playing more intelligent than Leenock. The "macro games" was just parting being nervous on stage and making mistake after mistake after mistake so it was 100% parting's loss. Leenock has played longer so it only makes sense that he doesn't get stage fright as easily. Parting is a newer player so he got nervous like any new player. Overall, parting is the better player but has a case of nerves unlike Leenock who has been playing since forever and still hasn't won a GSL. parting has like 10000 times more skill than leenock will ever wish he has. leenock just uses cheesy and gimicky play to win games. There you go thanks for proving my point. Parting is the better player but people lose sometimes oh well.
LOL
Leenock won games 1 and 4 with macro. How did PartinG win? Sentry Immortal and blink stalker. Both 2-base all-ins. Sorry. .
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On September 04 2012 06:44 Whatson wrote:So... Leenock vs PartinG Game 1 on Cloud Kingdom - Leenock wins in macro game with BL infestor Leenock vs PartinG Game 2 on Ohana - PartinG wins with sentry-immortal timing Leenock vs PartinG Game 3 on Daybreak - PartinG wins with blink stalker timing Leenock vs PartinG Game 4 on Whirlwind - Leenock wins in macro game with mutalisks Leenock vs PartinG Game 5 on Cloud Kingdom - Leenock wins with roach-ling all-in Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 06:35 starception wrote:On September 04 2012 01:44 antifan wrote:On September 04 2012 00:32 DrPandaPhD wrote:On September 04 2012 00:11 antifan wrote:
Games like the final set makes me wish GSL had extended series for certain people. Parting is clearly the superior player but got cheeses out and/choked. Oh well. At least seed made it out. Hopefully Leenock loses in round of 16. Parting got outplayed the first map in the first series and proceed to 2base immortal all in and 2base blink stalker nexus cancel all in. How is that any different to what Leenock did? The bias here.. The immortal allin and blink allin were just parting playing more intelligent than Leenock. The "macro games" was just parting being nervous on stage and making mistake after mistake after mistake so it was 100% parting's loss. Leenock has played longer so it only makes sense that he doesn't get stage fright as easily. Parting is a newer player so he got nervous like any new player. Overall, parting is the better player but has a case of nerves unlike Leenock who has been playing since forever and still hasn't won a GSL. parting has like 10000 times more skill than leenock will ever wish he has. leenock just uses cheesy and gimicky play to win games.
Never feed troll - it´s dangerous!
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I wish people would stop this needless debating/fighting. It's clear that leenock was the better player than parting today. It seemed that he only had builds for the first bo3 against him and that he clearly couldn't keep up with leenock's aggressive and solid macro style.
I don't know why you're bitter about the roach allin either; two of the games were allins from parting lol
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On September 04 2012 06:51 aviator116 wrote:
Leenock won games 1 and 4 with macro. How did PartinG win? Sentry Immortal and blink stalker. Both 2-base all-ins. Sorry. .
Well most of PvZ wins are 2 or 3 base timings. Protoss have such a huge disadvantage in late game PvZ. There is nothing that deals well with spines BL infestor. Your only hope is good vortex, but when zerg spreads his army, it is really difficult to do anything. And if you somehow lose your mothership there is no way you gonna win if zerg doesnt mess up big time. There is just nothing that deals well with broodlords infestor.
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Nooooo Parting. One game away vs seed and then dropping out T_T
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I hope Taeja or Squirtle wins this and Parting takes OSL. He was my prediction to win that one.
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cya. be careful departing.
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hahaha lol @ the trolling; antifan/starception are huge trolls
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On September 04 2012 08:24 opterown wrote:
hahaha lol @ the trolling; antifan/starception are huge trolls
no way starception is the master of predictions. he only went 1/2 for this group but im confident in his picks for group b
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On September 04 2012 04:45 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 02:09 neckgripper wrote:On September 04 2012 01:44 antifan wrote:On September 04 2012 00:32 DrPandaPhD wrote:On September 04 2012 00:11 antifan wrote:
Games like the final set makes me wish GSL had extended series for certain people. Parting is clearly the superior player but got cheeses out and/choked. Oh well. At least seed made it out. Hopefully Leenock loses in round of 16. Parting got outplayed the first map in the first series and proceed to 2base immortal all in and 2base blink stalker nexus cancel all in. How is that any different to what Leenock did? The bias here.. The immortal allin and blink allin were just parting playing more intelligent than Leenock. The "macro games" was just parting being nervous on stage and making mistake after mistake after mistake so it was 100% parting's loss. Leenock has played longer so it only makes sense that he doesn't get stage fright as easily. Parting is a newer player so he got nervous like any new player. Overall, parting is the better player but has a case of nerves unlike Leenock who has been playing since forever and still hasn't won a GSL. If parting was the better player, he wouldn't resort to all-ins. He lost during macro games cause leenocks macro games are very good. I doubt parting's nerves were the only issues he lost those games. Parting has been in gsl 4 times already, he's been in MLG and has attended many other tourneys in korea. To call him a new player is an overstatement. He's just not as much of a veteran as leenock. Anyways, you need to give leenock more credit, his zvp is improving and he's practicing harder than before. Most Protoss resort to all ins versus Zergs.
Even still, there are some protoss that are willing to go for the late game most of the time, like IM_first and SKT_rain. There are others, but those protoss are confident in their ability to handle late game zerg and will do so.
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*walks into thread.......quickly runs out*
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On September 04 2012 10:22 neckgripper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 04:45 mrtomjones wrote:On September 04 2012 02:09 neckgripper wrote:On September 04 2012 01:44 antifan wrote:On September 04 2012 00:32 DrPandaPhD wrote:On September 04 2012 00:11 antifan wrote:
Games like the final set makes me wish GSL had extended series for certain people. Parting is clearly the superior player but got cheeses out and/choked. Oh well. At least seed made it out. Hopefully Leenock loses in round of 16. Parting got outplayed the first map in the first series and proceed to 2base immortal all in and 2base blink stalker nexus cancel all in. How is that any different to what Leenock did? The bias here.. The immortal allin and blink allin were just parting playing more intelligent than Leenock. The "macro games" was just parting being nervous on stage and making mistake after mistake after mistake so it was 100% parting's loss. Leenock has played longer so it only makes sense that he doesn't get stage fright as easily. Parting is a newer player so he got nervous like any new player. Overall, parting is the better player but has a case of nerves unlike Leenock who has been playing since forever and still hasn't won a GSL. If parting was the better player, he wouldn't resort to all-ins. He lost during macro games cause leenocks macro games are very good. I doubt parting's nerves were the only issues he lost those games. Parting has been in gsl 4 times already, he's been in MLG and has attended many other tourneys in korea. To call him a new player is an overstatement. He's just not as much of a veteran as leenock. Anyways, you need to give leenock more credit, his zvp is improving and he's practicing harder than before. Most Protoss resort to all ins versus Zergs. Even still, there are some protoss that are willing to go for the late game most of the time, like IM_first and SKT_rain. There are others, but those protoss are confident in their ability to handle late game zerg and will do so.
didnt first lose to leenock. lmao...that just simply proves that protoss needs to 2 base all in
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I just want to say that as I'm watching the VODs I'm thoroughly impressed by Suhoshin in his ZvP. I mean, he could be the weakest Code S player, but geez for a part time player I really enjoyed watching his play and thought it was pretty skilled.
I actually hope he returns to Code S again.
EDIT: Oh and starception, I love your predictions and arguments man  Antifan tries a bit too hard I think by comparison.
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On September 04 2012 11:45 bittman wrote:I just want to say that as I'm watching the VODs I'm thoroughly impressed by Suhoshin in his ZvP. I mean, he could be the weakest Code S player, but geez for a part time player I really enjoyed watching his play and thought it was pretty skilled. I actually hope he returns to Code S again. EDIT: Oh and starception, I love your predictions and arguments man Antifan tries a bit too hard I think by comparison.
I try too hard? lol have you ever seen brokenLoL?
edit: his profile http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=brokenLoL&gb=date
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