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lol I have seen that immortal/warp prism push/all-in over 9000 times in Ohana in PvZ ...
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On September 03 2012 20:04 Girondelle wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:03 MorroW wrote:On September 03 2012 20:00 Waxangel wrote:
yet another zerg falls to the "knew it was coming but jesus fucking christ, are you serious?" Startale immoratl all-in yes seriously wtf parting played that perfectly o.o leenock had all the timings locked down and perfect amount of units to backstab with that push is quite deadly when they hit you at just the right time and place Is there any way you have found to stop it?
everything leenock does is the way you stop it, what he did is the exact text book style to stop this kind of push
both of them just played ridiculously good, i almost never see such perfect games
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On September 03 2012 20:01 RPR_Tempest wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:00 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:58 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:56 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:54 FeyFey wrote:On September 03 2012 19:52 Jetaap wrote:On September 03 2012 19:51 Waxangel wrote:
Neat, CJ just acquired one of LG-IM's coaches Wow coaches are getting poached by Kespa teams at an alarming rate  . yeah should have included coaches into the no player transfer. Incredible though what a sc2 coach does to kespa teams in terms of strength (well its boxer afterall), so its understandable for them to try and grab them. I've been thinking NesTea should just go to coaching now... he's behind the skill curve now and wont catch up Nestea got top 8 in the last GSL... I'm a huge NesTea fanboy, but he hasnt really done shit in the last year except come 2nd in Blizzcon GSL round of 8 is not exactly a big deal for a 3 time champion. Ro8 is still better than what 24 other players could achieve.
Agreed. That is like saying Flash was in decline in BW because he lost in PL and ONLY got to the semis in OSL (Not a big deal for a 3 time OSL and MSL winner).
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On September 03 2012 20:04 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:03 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 20:00 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:58 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:56 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:54 FeyFey wrote:On September 03 2012 19:52 Jetaap wrote:On September 03 2012 19:51 Waxangel wrote:
Neat, CJ just acquired one of LG-IM's coaches Wow coaches are getting poached by Kespa teams at an alarming rate . yeah should have included coaches into the no player transfer. Incredible though what a sc2 coach does to kespa teams in terms of strength (well its boxer afterall), so its understandable for them to try and grab them. I've been thinking NesTea should just go to coaching now... he's behind the skill curve now and wont catch up Nestea got top 8 in the last GSL... I'm a huge NesTea fanboy, but he hasnt really done shit in the last year except come 2nd in Blizzcon GSL round of 8 is not exactly a big deal for a 3 time champion. Uhh he also got 3rd at IPL4 (where in overall record he was tied with both the finalists) and 3rd at Iron Squid. Yes all these things are disappointing to the standard that Nestea set last year but to say he is falling behind the skill curve is idiotic. He is still without a doubt a top 20 player in the world and a top 5 zerg. A top 5 zerg that can't even break out of IEM open bracket. I'd say Leenock, Stephano, DRG, Symbol and Violet are better
top 5 zerg should be leenock, nestea, symbol, stephano, DRG
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from what I seen of nestea, he has beat that build twice..rushing mutas and one with fungals.
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On September 03 2012 20:03 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:00 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:58 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:56 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:54 FeyFey wrote:On September 03 2012 19:52 Jetaap wrote:On September 03 2012 19:51 Waxangel wrote:
Neat, CJ just acquired one of LG-IM's coaches Wow coaches are getting poached by Kespa teams at an alarming rate . yeah should have included coaches into the no player transfer. Incredible though what a sc2 coach does to kespa teams in terms of strength (well its boxer afterall), so its understandable for them to try and grab them. I've been thinking NesTea should just go to coaching now... he's behind the skill curve now and wont catch up Nestea got top 8 in the last GSL... I'm a huge NesTea fanboy, but he hasnt really done shit in the last year except come 2nd in Blizzcon GSL round of 8 is not exactly a big deal for a 3 time champion. Uhh he also got 3rd at IPL4 (where in overall record he was tied with both the finalists) and 3rd at Iron Squid. Yes all these things are disappointing to the standard that Nestea set last year but to say he is falling behind the skill curve is idiotic. He is still without a doubt a top 20 player in the world and a top 5 zerg.
I'll never stop cheering for him, but I'll eat my own ass if he ever wins another GSL
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On September 03 2012 20:04 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:00 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:58 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:56 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:54 FeyFey wrote:On September 03 2012 19:52 Jetaap wrote:On September 03 2012 19:51 Waxangel wrote:
Neat, CJ just acquired one of LG-IM's coaches Wow coaches are getting poached by Kespa teams at an alarming rate . yeah should have included coaches into the no player transfer. Incredible though what a sc2 coach does to kespa teams in terms of strength (well its boxer afterall), so its understandable for them to try and grab them. I've been thinking NesTea should just go to coaching now... he's behind the skill curve now and wont catch up Nestea got top 8 in the last GSL... I'm a huge NesTea fanboy, but he hasnt really done shit in the last year except come 2nd in Blizzcon GSL round of 8 is not exactly a big deal for a 3 time champion. Rofl are you serious ? It makes me think of Federer reaching every fucking semi final/final at every Grand Slam but somehow people say he doesn't do shit because he doesn't win every one. LOL.
Nestea and Mvp set standard too high for themself.
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On September 03 2012 20:04 Girondelle wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:03 MorroW wrote:On September 03 2012 20:00 Waxangel wrote:
yet another zerg falls to the "knew it was coming but jesus fucking christ, are you serious?" Startale immoratl all-in yes seriously wtf parting played that perfectly o.o leenock had all the timings locked down and perfect amount of units to backstab with that push is quite deadly when they hit you at just the right time and place Is there any way you have found to stop it?
theorycrafting but i'd say stay 2 base and force them to drop forcefields with lings. like has lings on 3 control groups, hit from 3 sides. sentry energy is all that matters
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On September 03 2012 20:05 MorroW wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:04 Girondelle wrote:On September 03 2012 20:03 MorroW wrote:On September 03 2012 20:00 Waxangel wrote:
yet another zerg falls to the "knew it was coming but jesus fucking christ, are you serious?" Startale immoratl all-in yes seriously wtf parting played that perfectly o.o leenock had all the timings locked down and perfect amount of units to backstab with that push is quite deadly when they hit you at just the right time and place Is there any way you have found to stop it? everything leenock does is the way you stop it, what he did is the exact text book style to stop this kind of push both of them just played ridiculously good, i almost never see such perfect games
Then what was his mistake(s)?
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On September 03 2012 20:06 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:03 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 20:00 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:58 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:56 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:54 FeyFey wrote:On September 03 2012 19:52 Jetaap wrote:On September 03 2012 19:51 Waxangel wrote:
Neat, CJ just acquired one of LG-IM's coaches Wow coaches are getting poached by Kespa teams at an alarming rate . yeah should have included coaches into the no player transfer. Incredible though what a sc2 coach does to kespa teams in terms of strength (well its boxer afterall), so its understandable for them to try and grab them. I've been thinking NesTea should just go to coaching now... he's behind the skill curve now and wont catch up Nestea got top 8 in the last GSL... I'm a huge NesTea fanboy, but he hasnt really done shit in the last year except come 2nd in Blizzcon GSL round of 8 is not exactly a big deal for a 3 time champion. Uhh he also got 3rd at IPL4 (where in overall record he was tied with both the finalists) and 3rd at Iron Squid. Yes all these things are disappointing to the standard that Nestea set last year but to say he is falling behind the skill curve is idiotic. He is still without a doubt a top 20 player in the world and a top 5 zerg. I'll never stop cheering for him, but I'll eat my own ass if he ever wins another GSL
that's what they said about mvp too with his wrists :p
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On September 03 2012 20:04 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:03 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 20:00 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:58 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:56 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:54 FeyFey wrote:On September 03 2012 19:52 Jetaap wrote:On September 03 2012 19:51 Waxangel wrote:
Neat, CJ just acquired one of LG-IM's coaches Wow coaches are getting poached by Kespa teams at an alarming rate . yeah should have included coaches into the no player transfer. Incredible though what a sc2 coach does to kespa teams in terms of strength (well its boxer afterall), so its understandable for them to try and grab them. I've been thinking NesTea should just go to coaching now... he's behind the skill curve now and wont catch up Nestea got top 8 in the last GSL... I'm a huge NesTea fanboy, but he hasnt really done shit in the last year except come 2nd in Blizzcon GSL round of 8 is not exactly a big deal for a 3 time champion. Uhh he also got 3rd at IPL4 (where in overall record he was tied with both the finalists) and 3rd at Iron Squid. Yes all these things are disappointing to the standard that Nestea set last year but to say he is falling behind the skill curve is idiotic. He is still without a doubt a top 20 player in the world and a top 5 zerg. A top 5 zerg that can't even break out of IEM open bracket. I'd say Leenock, Stephano, DRG, Symbol and Violet are better
He got out of the open bracket. He lost in group stages. He only lost to MVP and Kas in that tournament. Losing to Kas obviously is a poor result but upsets aren't that uncommon and MVP won the tournament.
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GSL now using (almost) standard daybreak?? Bet we won't hear from the people who claimed Blizzard 'ruined' the map by doing the same thing...
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Artosis speaking the truth, listen kids.
Squirtle teaches all.
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On September 03 2012 20:04 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:00 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:58 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:56 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:54 FeyFey wrote:On September 03 2012 19:52 Jetaap wrote:On September 03 2012 19:51 Waxangel wrote:
Neat, CJ just acquired one of LG-IM's coaches Wow coaches are getting poached by Kespa teams at an alarming rate . yeah should have included coaches into the no player transfer. Incredible though what a sc2 coach does to kespa teams in terms of strength (well its boxer afterall), so its understandable for them to try and grab them. I've been thinking NesTea should just go to coaching now... he's behind the skill curve now and wont catch up Nestea got top 8 in the last GSL... I'm a huge NesTea fanboy, but he hasnt really done shit in the last year except come 2nd in Blizzcon GSL round of 8 is not exactly a big deal for a 3 time champion. Rofl are you serious ? It makes me think of Federer reaching every fucking semi final/final at every Grand Slam but somehow people say he doesn't do shit because he doesn't win every one. LOL.
Except NesTea doesn't make every semi-final and final... good wun
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the reason ppl say nestea is in a slump, becuz he is no where NEAR as dominant, losing in the open bracket of IEM, losing terribly to Fantasy which had fairly meh macro compared to other top terrans, losing terribly 3-0 in the quarterfinals.
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On September 03 2012 20:06 GreggSauce wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:04 Girondelle wrote:On September 03 2012 20:03 MorroW wrote:On September 03 2012 20:00 Waxangel wrote:
yet another zerg falls to the "knew it was coming but jesus fucking christ, are you serious?" Startale immoratl all-in yes seriously wtf parting played that perfectly o.o leenock had all the timings locked down and perfect amount of units to backstab with that push is quite deadly when they hit you at just the right time and place Is there any way you have found to stop it? theorycrafting but i'd say stay 2 base and force them to drop forcefields with lings. like has lings on 3 control groups, hit from 3 sides. sentry energy is all that matters
That's just silly staying 2 base vs a 2base protoss is suicide if you don't do allinish stuff like Suhosin.
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Squirtle put the "Part" in Parting. LOL!
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On September 03 2012 20:07 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:06 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 20:03 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 20:00 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:58 JJH777 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:56 liberate71 wrote:On September 03 2012 19:54 FeyFey wrote:On September 03 2012 19:52 Jetaap wrote:On September 03 2012 19:51 Waxangel wrote:
Neat, CJ just acquired one of LG-IM's coaches Wow coaches are getting poached by Kespa teams at an alarming rate . yeah should have included coaches into the no player transfer. Incredible though what a sc2 coach does to kespa teams in terms of strength (well its boxer afterall), so its understandable for them to try and grab them. I've been thinking NesTea should just go to coaching now... he's behind the skill curve now and wont catch up Nestea got top 8 in the last GSL... I'm a huge NesTea fanboy, but he hasnt really done shit in the last year except come 2nd in Blizzcon GSL round of 8 is not exactly a big deal for a 3 time champion. Uhh he also got 3rd at IPL4 (where in overall record he was tied with both the finalists) and 3rd at Iron Squid. Yes all these things are disappointing to the standard that Nestea set last year but to say he is falling behind the skill curve is idiotic. He is still without a doubt a top 20 player in the world and a top 5 zerg. I'll never stop cheering for him, but I'll eat my own ass if he ever wins another GSL that's what they said about mvp too with his wrists :p
Mvp is a winner, he just wins when he shouldn't
I'm not sure nestea is the same way, he won back to back gsl in his prime by owning everybody and barely won open season 2 vs mkp.
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On September 03 2012 20:06 Girondelle wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 20:05 MorroW wrote:On September 03 2012 20:04 Girondelle wrote:On September 03 2012 20:03 MorroW wrote:On September 03 2012 20:00 Waxangel wrote:
yet another zerg falls to the "knew it was coming but jesus fucking christ, are you serious?" Startale immoratl all-in yes seriously wtf parting played that perfectly o.o leenock had all the timings locked down and perfect amount of units to backstab with that push is quite deadly when they hit you at just the right time and place Is there any way you have found to stop it? everything leenock does is the way you stop it, what he did is the exact text book style to stop this kind of push both of them just played ridiculously good, i almost never see such perfect games Then what was his mistake(s)?
there were no clear mistakes thats why it was so beautiful. i guess it just comes down to the absolute small things that we dont see on camera. hitting every inject perfectly and every drone on 50 minerals, things like this. basically execution for perfection. no game is perfect when you start looking into these kind of things
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On September 03 2012 20:07 X3GoldDot wrote:
the reason ppl say nestea is in a slump, becuz he is no where NEAR as dominant, losing in the open bracket of IEM, losing terribly to Fantasy which had fairly meh macro compared to other top terrans, losing terribly 3-0 in the quarterfinals.
He didn't lose in the Open Bracket at IEM... but the rest is true.
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