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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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coloursheep
China497 Posts
On August 29 2012 11:57 WigglingSquid wrote: I really don't like BO1 in SC2. It felt acceptable in BW, but the sequel just feels much more volatile to me.  There is no good reason to have BO1, less games for viewers, easier chance of the best player not advancing, worse games and storyline because players can't react to what happened in previous games. Even if a game was 100% balanced BO1 is still no acceptable especially for a tournament that is supposed to be the most prestigious | ||
opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On August 29 2012 16:10 NoGasfOu wrote: Since Kespa player've had a winning percentage vs esf so far, I'll put my money on Kespa players. really? i'm pretty sure ESF is still ahead h2h kespa o.O hrmm. maybe i should go check my numbers, lol On August 29 2012 16:10 coloursheep wrote: There is no good reason to have BO1, less games for viewers, easier chance of the best player not advancing, worse games and storyline because players can't react to what happened in previous games. Even if a game was 100% balanced BO1 is still no acceptable especially for a tournament that is supposed to be the most prestigious tv airtime, they're not going to dedicate a 4+hr program to sc2 multiple times per week. think of our local tv channels, most shows are 1hr, 2hr max for specials like season finales | ||
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coloursheep
China497 Posts
On August 29 2012 16:13 opterown wrote: really? i'm pretty sure ESF is still ahead h2h kespa o.O hrmm. maybe i should go check my numbers, lol tv airtime, they're not going to dedicate a 4+hr program to sc2 multiple times per week. think of your local tv channels, most shows are 2hr max ish Comparing it to television programs is not an accurate comparison, the correct comparison is to sports, and if that was the case then tennis matches would only be one set, golf 5 holes and one round etc etc. | ||
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zerino
Denmark253 Posts
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
On August 29 2012 16:17 coloursheep wrote: Comparing it to television programs is not an accurate comparison, the correct comparison is to sports, and if that was the case then tennis matches would only be one set, golf 5 holes and one round etc etc. Remember OGN still have proleague matches to broadcast at the same time. So it is practically every day. Tennis matches are not on everyday, they only broadcast grand slam everyday. Golf also not all the time, and they are on multiple TV stations also. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
Great TvP vs mediocre PvT Oz < Last Last is actually pretty good at TvP. Not sure about Oz's PvT Mvp > Flying MVP is the Flash of SC2. Best game-sense and game-psychology around, I don't see him losing to anyone, really BeSt < MC PvP in SC2 is so so soooo different from BW that I think Best will just suck hard. That, and Best has gone 0-7 in his recent SC2 matches. | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
On August 29 2012 16:17 coloursheep wrote: Comparing it to television programs is not an accurate comparison, the correct comparison is to sports, and if that was the case then tennis matches would only be one set, golf 5 holes and one round etc etc. One tennis set*4 matches? | ||
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
OZ MVP MC PLEASE WIN! | ||
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coloursheep
China497 Posts
I don't know how you got there, my point was that if time was a concern for sports then why are they not all best of one's, eg tennis matches being one set instead of 5. Also OGN is a dedicated channel and OSL is supposed to be a huge deal for them, so you would think they would be able to devoted enough time to have BO3's. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On August 29 2012 16:17 coloursheep wrote: Comparing it to television programs is not an accurate comparison, the correct comparison is to sports, and if that was the case then tennis matches would only be one set, golf 5 holes and one round etc etc. That is true in a way. However, we have to remember that for something like tennis, not all matches are shown. Maybe just the semis and finals (earlier matches are basically just picking the interesting ones). For the other matches, you pretty have to join a really specialised tennis channel to see them. I think only the hardcore would be able to sit through 4+ hours of SC each Tuesday/Wednesday. | ||
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On August 29 2012 16:31 vthree wrote: That is true in a way. However, we have to remember that for something like tennis, not all matches are shown. Maybe just the semis and finals (earlier matches are basically just picking the interesting ones). For the other matches, you pretty have to join a really specialised tennis channel to see them. I think only the hardcore would be able to sit through 4+ hours of SC each Tuesday/Wednesday. yeah i suppose GOM being the 'really specialised sc2' channel makes sense that shows all the games and has 4+hr broadcasts, while OGN is more like, the average cable channel which shows not only sc2, but LoL, gaming shows and stuff stuff too OGN will be bo5 after group stages anyhow, so that makes better sense | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On August 29 2012 16:13 opterown wrote: really? i'm pretty sure ESF is still ahead h2h kespa o.O hrmm. maybe i should go check my numbers, lol It depends if you count the WCS qualifiers and the WCG qualifiers (and the special event GOM had with ESF vs Kespa). If you just count WCS Korea and OSL, then Kespa is ahead. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 29 2012 16:31 vthree wrote: That is true in a way. However, we have to remember that for something like tennis, not all matches are shown. Maybe just the semis and finals (earlier matches are basically just picking the interesting ones). For the other matches, you pretty have to join a really specialised tennis channel to see them. I think only the hardcore would be able to sit through 4+ hours of SC each Tuesday/Wednesday. When there are multiple leagues running concurrently I watch about 8-10 hours of BW/SC2 a day (IPL TAC/NASL/some other NA leagues -> Proleague or rebroadcasts -> GSL). Does that make me hardcorexxxxxxx? | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On August 29 2012 16:44 lichter wrote: When there are multiple leagues running concurrently I watch about 8-10 hours of BW/SC2 a day (IPL TAC/NASL/some other NA leagues -> Proleague or rebroadcasts -> GSL). Does that make me hardcorexxxxxxx? lol, if you do anything 8-10 hours (besides sleep and your job), it is hardcore. | ||
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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
Mvp in worst matchup but should be able to comfortably edge out flying. Could be a big upset. MC in a matchup all about knowing a counter and quickly setting it up, but he's been fooled in PvPs before. Still don't see him losing. On paper it's 4-0 for ESF (although Oz and MC aren't strictly ESF), but I'm 90% sure it isn't going to end up that way... | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
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vanhio
Niue1017 Posts
All hail The King ! | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On August 29 2012 16:10 coloursheep wrote: There is no good reason to have BO1, less games for viewers, easier chance of the best player not advancing, worse games and storyline because players can't react to what happened in previous games. Even if a game was 100% balanced BO1 is still no acceptable especially for a tournament that is supposed to be the most prestigious same like gsl up and downs ... hope today sound is no total tinitus attack | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
MarineKing vs. By.Rain: By.Rain is IMO the best KeSPA player so far. He's been the best in PL easily and had a very very strong WCS showing as well. MarineKing is struggling a bit and i think he'll lose. Oz vs. Last: Last did decently in PL but not extraordinarily good. Oz isn't a that good player either imo. But i think Oz will win given the recent Protoss success. Maybe this OSL can be another Protoss vs Protoss party in the end! ^^ Mvp vs. Flying: Hard to guess. I don't like Mvp vs Protoss and Flying had pretty good PL stats. I still go with Mvp as he's a champion. BeSt vs. MC: Well, this is a Protoss mirror and everything can happen. I still hope for a Bosstoss success and predict it to happen. | ||
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