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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1121
Ah, MVP looking rich!
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1122
On August 29 2012 20:26 IshinShishi wrote:
not sad for mkp this time, he got cocky, chose not to end the game, got punished for it, rain's third was absolutely free kill, yet he let it stand, I even thought that he was saving energy for mass manner mules b4 attacking.

Why is this cocky? He made mistakes and seems to be way too nervous. That's all!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1123
How tough is Gosi[Flying]?

Well, he stops DTs in PvP.

+ Show Spoiler +
With no detection
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
superarmy
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand422 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1124
LETS GO MVP!
6NR
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1472 Posts
August 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#1125
This shuld be easy for mvp
StormIsAJoke
Profile Joined August 2012
Bangladesh5 Posts
August 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#1126
Storm allows Protoss to get back into game when he is down 2 bases and 60 supply. Such a fucking joke. And don't say "Oh, he didn't micro against it," "He A-moved into the storms" ... That's exactly how the Protoss fights with their army, such bullshit. Broken game.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
August 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#1127
On August 29 2012 20:28 Drazzzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:27 Heartland wrote:
I think it still looks relatively even between Kespa and GOM-players. It'll probably be clearer once the GSL and OSL have run for a couple of weeks what the relative skill level looks like. And then, of course, another six months or so until we can really start to comment on one group being better than the other. Most likely though is that we're simply going to see more of a merger with some OSL players being really good, most of them mid-level and some of them bad.

Six months later there will be HOTS......


You're forgetting that this is Blizzard who is going to be releasing HOTS ; )
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
August 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#1128
On August 29 2012 20:25 silent_owl wrote:
MKP dissing on Reality then losing to By.Sun.

Don't get me wrong, I love MKP but serves him right underestimating the Kespa pros.

I don't think it was underestimating the skill of Sun, it's just Korean bm the usual way, you could tell how nervous MKP was at the start and his reactions throughout the game looked like he was really trying.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
August 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#1129
On August 29 2012 20:22 mango_destroyer wrote:
sometimes its embarassing being an MKP fan rofl. T_T he just fucks up games that seem impossible to fuck up.


To be fair, its always possible to fuck up against protoss :O This game certainly showed how it looks when terran has the advantage and what happens when protoss has the advantage. I miss the MKP from winter MLG or which ever it was. I remember him having this "kill mode" in every game. He would just decide, that this is the time to go all in and kill my opponent. He could smell the wound of his opponent and go all hungry shark on him.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#1130
On August 29 2012 20:28 MCDayC wrote:
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On August 29 2012 20:27 Fusilero wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:26 Dodgin wrote:
I've seen Mvp lose a lot of TvP's on ohana to a 2 base storm/chargelot all-in

let's see if flying does that

He lost to 2 base zealot archon from oz in the dual tourney phase

He also lost to one from monchi during that... incident in Germany.

that never happened.


yeah let's go with that
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
August 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#1131
On August 29 2012 20:26 iky43210 wrote:
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On August 29 2012 20:25 NGrNecris wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:23 mostevil wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:22 Hazzyboy wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:15 tribulator wrote:
The funnest part about the korean tournaments recently is to read each excuse people come up with for every ESF player loss to a KESPA player.

Loser always plays bad - it's the law of sports, and even an underdog who plays the best game level of his career can beat anybody. Kespa makes SC II pros look bad cuz they outplay em, Rain was close to losing it but he kept coming back with nice storms and mis-storm would had ment end for him.

I dunno, suiciding all those ghosts wasn't Rains doing. He was playing solidly though.

you could say rain having good ht positioning forced mkp to get desperate with his emps


what good ht position. mkp simply rallied his entire ghost at tower, forgot about them, and they got demolished by zealots and colossus. There was no HT involved

i thought you meant during the actual engagements. mkp lost his ghosts due to not paying attention but thats attributable to the zealot harass in the main. also not much you can do when there are charging zealots on your ghosts anyways
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
August 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#1132
On August 29 2012 20:28 Salazarz wrote:
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On August 29 2012 20:25 iky43210 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:24 Salazarz wrote:
What I don't get is where are people getting "MKP completely outplayed Rain" from? He had a massive build order advantage due to Sun not seeing his third in time, that's the only reason he was ahead at any point at all. His banshees were denied perfectly, his drop attempt lost him more than it gained, and Rain outmaneuvered and outcontrolled him in every engagement throughout the game.

Literally the only reason MKP had an advantage was due to being up on bases because of Sun's observer getting picked off and Sun likely lacking experience to guess that there was indeed a third / misjudging the timing for taking his own expansions.

MKP made plenty of mistakes in that game, no denying that - but give Sun some credit, too. Barring a few judgement mistakes in early-midgame, his play was amazing.


MKP have a 50 supply lead over sun at one point, and with a game ending army at his 4th that could destroyed sun's 3rd no contest.

Instead, he retreat to let sun get a couple bases and templars, then proceed to throw away almost all his ghosts because he doesn't pay attention.

Land exactly 0 emp on templar, eat storms like candies

Its MKP game to throw


MKP couldn't have possibly known how much of a supply lead he has, or whether Sun has storm ready or not. It was a mistake on his part - but it's not like move-commanded his army into colossus or something.

By that logic, Sun should have won because after the initial failure of banshee harass he had a pretty big window where he could have easily punished MKP's greedy expansions.

I don't know if you were watching the game, but the ghost throw-away happened because Sun had TWO groups of Zealots harassing MKP at the same time, one at his 4th, the other in his main - MKP pulled back most of his army to deal with that, and Sun moved in at the middle hoping to snipe the expo, but ran into ghosts instead. Again, it's a mistake by MKP - sure, but it's a mistake Sun has forced him to make with good multitasking and timing. Give credit where it's due, man.


he scanned, saw protoss entire army. He should know how big of a lead he has, and he knows because he double expand after it.

But that was completely unnecessary when sun was dead right there and then
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
August 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#1133
I would be really astonished if MVP would lose this. I simply hope he plays better than at HSC
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
August 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#1134
Wow... I took a shower after MKP got a 50 supply lead... and comeback... he LOST?!?!?!

Somewhere... IdrA is smiling down deep
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 29 2012 11:29 GMT
#1135
MvP and Flying. I don't particularly feel like rooting for anybody.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 11:30:15
August 29 2012 11:30 GMT
#1136
On August 29 2012 20:25 mikedebo wrote:
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On August 29 2012 20:25 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote:
btw is there any other english caster lined up for ogn or is it gonna be solo cast moletrap all the way? i vaguely remember either torch or doa wanting to cast this.


Doa is officially in but sick... some talks of having Grubby come in too. I hope Torch gets a shot, love that guy

I thought that Torch had moved to LoL for good? It would be awesome to have him back to SC2 at least part-time.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 29 2012 11:30 GMT
#1137
On August 29 2012 20:24 Salazarz wrote:
He had a massive build order advantage due to Sun not seeing his third in time, that's the only reason he was ahead at any point at all. His banshees were denied perfectly, his drop attempt lost him more than it gained, and Rain outmaneuvered and outcontrolled him in every engagement throughout the game.

We weren't watching the same game then, buddy. His banshees did a ton of dmg (killing 3 sentries, a Stalker and a handful of probes) and he hunted down several observers with the Raven to deny scouting. That wasn't luck or build order win, that was just playing better. The failed drop was his first major fuck-up though, that's right.
Get off my lawn, young punks
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
August 29 2012 11:30 GMT
#1138
On August 29 2012 20:27 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
MVP just won a huge championship with those wrists, you can't use them as an excuse.
GOGO Think of another one ^^

Or you could look at said tournament and see he fought a grand total of a single protoss.
He can get by with mech but not in this match-up.
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
August 29 2012 11:30 GMT
#1139
MVP better smack down this KESPA nerd...
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 29 2012 11:30 GMT
#1140
On August 29 2012 20:28 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:27 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
MVP just won a huge championship with those wrists, you can't use them as an excuse.
GOGO Think of another one ^^

it does cut down on his performance

He was still better than everyone at IEM Cologne.
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