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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 29 2012 11:26 GMT
#1101
wtf was that?
This paint-thing was sooo unprofessional...
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
August 29 2012 11:26 GMT
#1102
On August 29 2012 20:25 NGrNecris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:23 mostevil wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:22 Hazzyboy wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:15 tribulator wrote:
The funnest part about the korean tournaments recently is to read each excuse people come up with for every ESF player loss to a KESPA player.

Loser always plays bad - it's the law of sports, and even an underdog who plays the best game level of his career can beat anybody. Kespa makes SC II pros look bad cuz they outplay em, Rain was close to losing it but he kept coming back with nice storms and mis-storm would had ment end for him.

I dunno, suiciding all those ghosts wasn't Rains doing. He was playing solidly though.

you could say rain having good ht positioning forced mkp to get desperate with his emps


what good ht position. mkp simply rallied his entire ghost at tower, forgot about them, and they got demolished by zealots and colossus. There was no HT involved
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
August 29 2012 11:26 GMT
#1103
On August 29 2012 20:12 playnice wrote:
MKP macro was always ahead but he just couldn't get a good engagement

Rain wouldn't let him. I was very impressed by Rain's retreats.
My strategy is to fork people.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46282 Posts
August 29 2012 11:26 GMT
#1104
On August 29 2012 20:24 Stuv wrote:
Micky Mouse, ah yes, good comparison?!?!


Mickey Mouse has won countless GRLs... Global Rodent League championships.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 29 2012 11:26 GMT
#1105
not sad for mkp this time, he got cocky, chose not to end the game, got punished for it, rain's third was absolutely free kill, yet he let it stand, I even thought that he was saving energy for mass manner mules b4 attacking.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 29 2012 11:27 GMT
#1106
On August 29 2012 20:26 Dodgin wrote:
I've seen Mvp lose a lot of TvP's on ohana to a 2 base storm/chargelot all-in

let's see if flying does that

He lost to 2 base zealot archon from oz in the dual tourney phase
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 29 2012 11:27 GMT
#1107
I think it still looks relatively even between Kespa and GOM-players. It'll probably be clearer once the GSL and OSL have run for a couple of weeks what the relative skill level looks like. And then, of course, another six months or so until we can really start to comment on one group being better than the other. Most likely though is that we're simply going to see more of a merger with some OSL players being really good, most of them mid-level and some of them bad.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 29 2012 11:27 GMT
#1108
They're teaching them what those things Mvp will drop at the end of the game are.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 29 2012 11:27 GMT
#1109
MVP just won a huge championship with those wrists, you can't use them as an excuse.
GOGO Think of another one ^^
This is our town, scrub
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2012 11:27 GMT
#1110
On August 29 2012 20:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:26 Dodgin wrote:
I've seen Mvp lose a lot of TvP's on ohana to a 2 base storm/chargelot all-in

let's see if flying does that

He lost to 2 base zealot archon from oz in the dual tourney phase

He also lost to one from monchi during that... incident in Germany.
Glorious SEA doto
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 29 2012 11:27 GMT
#1111
OGN preparing the viewers for the manner mules
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1112
Why is Moletrap dressed like a drunk uncle at Christmas?
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1113
I would love to understand them explaining the MULE.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1114
On August 29 2012 20:27 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
MVP just won a huge championship with those wrists, you can't use them as an excuse.
GOGO Think of another one ^^

it does cut down on his performance
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1115
On August 29 2012 20:25 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:24 oneofthem wrote:
mvp is better than flying in bw probably. but his wrists


Mvp peak BW ELO - 2072
Flying peak BW ELO - 2069.

Seems true...

Hahaha, peak ELO seals it.
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1116
On August 29 2012 20:27 Heartland wrote:
I think it still looks relatively even between Kespa and GOM-players. It'll probably be clearer once the GSL and OSL have run for a couple of weeks what the relative skill level looks like. And then, of course, another six months or so until we can really start to comment on one group being better than the other. Most likely though is that we're simply going to see more of a merger with some OSL players being really good, most of them mid-level and some of them bad.

Six months later there will be HOTS......
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1117
On August 29 2012 20:25 iky43210 wrote:
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On August 29 2012 20:24 Salazarz wrote:
What I don't get is where are people getting "MKP completely outplayed Rain" from? He had a massive build order advantage due to Sun not seeing his third in time, that's the only reason he was ahead at any point at all. His banshees were denied perfectly, his drop attempt lost him more than it gained, and Rain outmaneuvered and outcontrolled him in every engagement throughout the game.

Literally the only reason MKP had an advantage was due to being up on bases because of Sun's observer getting picked off and Sun likely lacking experience to guess that there was indeed a third / misjudging the timing for taking his own expansions.

MKP made plenty of mistakes in that game, no denying that - but give Sun some credit, too. Barring a few judgement mistakes in early-midgame, his play was amazing.


MKP have a 50 supply lead over sun at one point, and with a game ending army at his 4th that could destroyed sun's 3rd no contest.

Instead, he retreat to let sun get a couple bases and templars, then proceed to throw away almost all his ghosts because he doesn't pay attention.

Land exactly 0 emp on templar, eat storms like candies

Its MKP game to throw


MKP couldn't have possibly known how much of a supply lead he has, or whether Sun has storm ready or not. It was a mistake on his part - but it's not like move-commanded his army into colossus or something.

By that logic, Sun should have won because after the initial failure of banshee harass he had a pretty big window where he could have easily punished MKP's greedy expansions.

I don't know if you were watching the game, but the ghost throw-away happened because Sun had TWO groups of Zealots harassing MKP at the same time, one at his 4th, the other in his main - MKP pulled back most of his army to deal with that, and Sun moved in at the middle hoping to snipe the expo, but ran into ghosts instead. Again, it's a mistake by MKP - sure, but it's a mistake Sun has forced him to make with good multitasking and timing. Give credit where it's due, man.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1118
On August 29 2012 20:26 Big J wrote:
wtf was that?
This paint-thing was sooo unprofessional...


Analyzing the map. They do that "paint-thing" all the time during sports games for specific analysis of plays, moves, etc.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1119
Moletrap does not know mules are rocket powered?

He lost his passion ...

Let's see if MVP is able to make it at the OSL stage.

Nice to see a full crowd
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#1120
On August 29 2012 20:27 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:26 Dodgin wrote:
I've seen Mvp lose a lot of TvP's on ohana to a 2 base storm/chargelot all-in

let's see if flying does that

He lost to 2 base zealot archon from oz in the dual tourney phase

He also lost to one from monchi during that... incident in Germany.

that never happened.
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