On August 27 2012 06:32 askmc70 wrote:
how many games does leenock have to win?
how many games does leenock have to win?
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
August 26 2012 21:32 GMT
#3541
On August 27 2012 06:32 askmc70 wrote: how many games does leenock have to win? 3 | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
August 26 2012 21:33 GMT
#3542
On August 27 2012 06:30 Hier wrote: Wait, why is it extended series, again? It's just standard double elimination finals. Leenock was in the winners bracket so they go to a second series. oh wait they are actually extending it and not just doing another bo3 weird... | ||
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n0ave
180 Posts
August 26 2012 21:33 GMT
#3543
On August 27 2012 06:30 ACrow wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2012 06:28 SupLilSon wrote: On August 27 2012 06:26 Femari wrote: On August 27 2012 06:25 ACrow wrote: On August 27 2012 06:24 n0ise wrote: why don't people upgrade flyer armor vs mass thors... T.T Because mech is not very well explored in TvZ, wait one or two months and you'll start seeing it if it actually is worth it. It is pretty well explored, just not v BLs. You only really see mech vs Ultras. Making 20 mutas when there are 6-9 thors in the Terran mech ball is not cost effective. If he had spent those resources differently the rest of the game might have gone his way. I thought if you magic box them perfectly, mass mutas are actually cost effective against mass Thor when on equal upgrades? He could have magic box the mutas better, and he would have clean that army easy after. | ||
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GregMandel
France822 Posts
August 26 2012 21:33 GMT
#3544
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
August 26 2012 21:33 GMT
#3545
On August 27 2012 06:32 askmc70 wrote: how many games does leenock have to win? Its a Bo7 with STC leading 2-1 | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 26 2012 21:34 GMT
#3546
On August 27 2012 06:33 Dodgin wrote: It's just standard double elimination finals. Leenock was in the winners bracket so they go to a second series. Double elim means both players just play another bo3. Extended means, score is carried over so it is different. In this case, Leenock needs 3 more wins. | ||
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Mask DeMasque
United States415 Posts
August 26 2012 21:34 GMT
#3547
On August 27 2012 06:31 Aerisky wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2012 06:30 xrapture wrote: On August 27 2012 06:24 n0ise wrote: why don't people upgrade flyer armor vs mass thors... T.T same reason zergs refuse to build spines at their expansions, burrow their drones, micro their queens, or make overseers vs 5 cloaked banshees Because they forget to, because T can scan, because he was but just had a few slipups, or because his overseers were already there but were just killed off too early, and because he was just flat-out tired? Shame, but hope Leenock learned from that game and realized his mistakes. gogo~ this is leenock's fourth game of the day... while it's STC's twelfth | ||
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MangoMountain
Norway2044 Posts
August 26 2012 21:34 GMT
#3548
On August 27 2012 06:32 n0ise wrote: explored or not, if you're going air vs mass thors, it's -4dmg/shot for each upgrade, not even counting splash... doesn't seem much of a discussion if it's worth it or not :S It's definitely worth it, you kinda have to get it in order to make the corruptors not vaporize against thor shots | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
August 26 2012 21:34 GMT
#3549
On August 27 2012 06:31 Qwerty85 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2012 06:28 ACrow wrote: On August 27 2012 06:26 Femari wrote: On August 27 2012 06:25 ACrow wrote: On August 27 2012 06:24 n0ise wrote: why don't people upgrade flyer armor vs mass thors... T.T Because mech is not very well explored in TvZ, wait one or two months and you'll start seeing it if it actually is worth it. It is pretty well explored, just not v BLs. You only really see mech vs Ultras. How is it well explored it if it is not explored against the most prevalent style? ![]() Well Mvp is one of the few that played mech way before the current trend. Remember his games vs Leenock at MLG? He has a lot of experience with TvZ mech and this new&improved one is actually viable even when BL's are out, at least it seems that way so far. Before it was more like push before hive. I'm not arguing against that, I'm loving it and think it is one of MVP's genius strokes ![]() But I also think that Z is still looking to find the best way to deal with it, hence why I originally said that it is not very well explored. | ||
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aesopiate
United States8 Posts
August 26 2012 21:34 GMT
#3550
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
August 26 2012 21:34 GMT
#3551
On August 27 2012 06:33 Dodgin wrote: It's just standard double elimination finals. Leenock was in the winners bracket so they go to a second series. Can you really call it "standard" when MLG seems to be the only tournament ever to use this type of format? ![]() | ||
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xNSwarm
155 Posts
August 26 2012 21:34 GMT
#3552
On August 27 2012 06:30 ACrow wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2012 06:28 SupLilSon wrote: On August 27 2012 06:26 Femari wrote: On August 27 2012 06:25 ACrow wrote: On August 27 2012 06:24 n0ise wrote: why don't people upgrade flyer armor vs mass thors... T.T Because mech is not very well explored in TvZ, wait one or two months and you'll start seeing it if it actually is worth it. It is pretty well explored, just not v BLs. You only really see mech vs Ultras. Making 20 mutas when there are 6-9 thors in the Terran mech ball is not cost effective. If he had spent those resources differently the rest of the game might have gone his way. I thought if you magic box them perfectly, mass mutas are actually cost effective against mass Thor when on equal upgrades? nope. For mutas to be cost effective 2.5 mutas would have to be able to beat a thor, which isn't the case. However mutas aren't meant for straight up fights anyway. They are much more mobile than thors, so it makes sense why they would lose to thors when you don't take advantage of their biggest strength. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
August 26 2012 21:35 GMT
#3553
On August 27 2012 06:34 Dosey wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2012 06:33 Dodgin wrote: On August 27 2012 06:30 Hier wrote: Wait, why is it extended series, again? It's just standard double elimination finals. Leenock was in the winners bracket so they go to a second series. Can you really call it "standard" when MLG seems to be the only tournament ever to use this type of format? ![]() yeah, yeah. I was wrong. I thought they were playing another bo3 with the score reset. apparently not. | ||
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6NR
United States1472 Posts
August 26 2012 21:35 GMT
#3554
On August 27 2012 06:33 JoeCool wrote: Its a Bo7 with STC leading 2-1 Oh, My understanding is that Leenock has only to win 3 games to advance. | ||
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
August 26 2012 21:35 GMT
#3555
On August 27 2012 06:33 GregMandel wrote: is it just me or it's totally retarded and unfair for the thestc ? because Leenock can win 2-0 but thestc cannot because he comes from the LB, that's retarded to me. So your tournament with a WB/LB structure would have what advantage for the player in the WB? Put a patch on one eye for the guy coming from LB? It's not retarded, it's fair. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
August 26 2012 21:35 GMT
#3556
On August 27 2012 06:33 GregMandel wrote: is it just me or it's totally retarded and unfair for the thestc ? because Leenock can win 2-0 but thestc cannot because he comes from the LB, that's retarded to me. The extended series is unfair, the fact that a player who comes from the LB has to win more games than his opponent isn't. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
August 26 2012 21:35 GMT
#3557
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Roachu
Sweden692 Posts
August 26 2012 21:35 GMT
#3558
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SoraLimit
Canada747 Posts
August 26 2012 21:36 GMT
#3559
On August 27 2012 06:34 aesopiate wrote: Honest question, how do you magic box "better" or worse? Better location for the hold position over the Thors? There was a thread awhile ago, showing that you can still focus fire thors while in the Magic Box position. The one Leenock did was the standard one where you click past them, and stop right above. | ||
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Azhrak
Finland1198 Posts
August 26 2012 21:36 GMT
#3560
On August 27 2012 06:33 GregMandel wrote: is it just me or it's totally retarded and unfair for the thestc ? because Leenock can win 2-0 but thestc cannot because he comes from the LB, that's retarded to me. Keep in mind that Leenock haven't lost a series before the semi-finals, and TheStC has lost two series. It would be unfair for Leenock to get knocked out by losing just a single series. | ||
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