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SeggsyLori
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany80 Posts
August 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4041
On August 26 2012 09:08 Supercilium wrote:
What happened to Thorzain and JYP, walk-over??


They got fired by EG because EG needs the money for Stephano.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4042
On August 26 2012 09:07 SayGen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 09:07 mongmong wrote:
taeja so good.

go taeja you can do this

Hope he can make a comeback.

I think he is TLs last hope.


Hero is waiting in the winner bracket finals of that group, definitely not the last hope of TL.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4043
On August 26 2012 09:08 teddyoojo wrote:
btw what happens if 2 guys meet for a third time? is it like extended extended series? bo11 then?

extended series only applies independently to each phase of the tournament. it is impossible to meet 3 times in the same phase
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 00:09:27
August 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4044
On August 26 2012 09:03 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 09:02 Zane wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:59 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:58 sam05396 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:57 Femari wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:
[quote]
please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa.

There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons.


Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists.

Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence?

no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times

He's been much much better than Mvp.

mvp won gsl season 2 then the next tournament he went to he won, idk how u can say he is much much better than mvp

Oh, how he beat MVP in GSL? And it's not like Taeja hasn't won tournaments

So one series decides who's the better player? Come on. It's not the first time this happens. A player wins a couple of foreign torunaments and suddenly he's the best player in the world.

All I'm saying is that Taeja was better than MVP for a period of time. You actually can't disagree with that
HINT: Remember HSCV?


Hint: remember IPL finals? Seed crushed Taeja.

Hint: remember TSL4. IMFirst crushed Taeja.

Hint: remember earlier today. Crank crushed Taeja.

All I am saying is that Taeja isn't the best player in the world. And he has NEVER EVER been better than MVP.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4045
On August 26 2012 09:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 09:07 opterown wrote:
fml is mkp really up vs sheth? don't they reseed players?

fuck he always loses to losira and he's in his bracket

exactly, devs
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4046
AHAHAHAHAH, Taeja Real Talk.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4047
Wtf this movie commercial is like 2 minutes long
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4048
Scarlett always looking like she's high.
Off-season = best season
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4049
I think in terms of playing style, TaeJa is actually doing quiet some mistakes or very risky moves. Not taking away any credit from his brilliant mechanics but I feel he's playing a constant gamble. His information when playing is as much as you can get really, but the way he puts aggression on the Protoss is basically nothing but him being in the head of his opponent.

Are 5 marines going to post a threat to a nexus first Protoss? Not really, no. You should be afraid he is not going to chronoboost his 2 gateways or even worse, going to go 4 or 5 gate p ressure after his initial nexus. I really feel against some Protoss on the ladder this style would just not work out as good. Ofcourse his superior mechanics would carry him, but as you could see in for example TSL against Bischu on Metropolis, sometimes a gamble really doesn't pay off.

I feel like TaeJa basically already won the game because he is TaeJa. He worked hard for this psychological advantage, but there is absolutely no reason to be afraid in the early game more than against another Terran. Ofcourse his execution of builds is better, but even TaeJa can't make 5 marines worth 20. Also in the bigger battles, I think he's winning by excellent control. Its absolutely amazing how he focus fires and moves parts of his army, knowing absolutely how units will react and fire by heart, absolute beautiful to watch.

CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4050
On August 26 2012 09:07 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 09:04 setzer wrote:
On August 26 2012 09:02 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 09:00 setzer wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:57 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:
[quote]
please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa.

There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons.


Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists.

Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence?

no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times

Considering he beat both MVP and Seed I'm not sure where your logic comes from


How about Seed being the most recent GSL champion

How about Creator being the best player since he just won WCS KR


I'll take a GSL victory and top5 WCS+IPL TAC winner over Creator's WCS win

lol WCS Finals were last night
Creator is better right now.

well in sc2 u cant just say he is better he won, their are 3 matchups
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4051
Taeja: u bm
Crank: so sorry
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
August 26 2012 00:10 GMT
#4052
On August 26 2012 09:07 opterown wrote:
fml is mkp really up vs sheth? don't they reseed players?


where you see that?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 26 2012 00:10 GMT
#4053
On August 26 2012 09:08 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 09:06 mango_destroyer wrote:
On August 26 2012 09:03 Dodgin wrote:
On August 26 2012 09:01 TommyP wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:59 Dodgin wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:59 Roggay wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:57 sam05396 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:57 Roggay wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:
[quote]
Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence?

no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times

During those times? Yes he was.

no real way to prove that

Mvp wasnt doing really well until his latest tournament win. Remember him at HSC?


yeah Mvp went into a slump after winning GSLs2 and just came back, Taeja was definitely playing better at the time. But that really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

He was in a slump all year until GSLs2 and then was in a slump after GSLs2 lol


It really doesn't matter, 99% of pros would kill to have the success Mvp has during his " slumps " the fact that he keeps coming back to win tournaments after people count him out is what is amazing.

I mean the guy has been winning GSL's since January 2011 and he's still winning premier tournament as of a week ago.


you are absolutely right. In the end it is about winning big tournaments and MVP has that edge over everyone. He just finds ways to get it done.

That is true and I have neaver really understood why.

Simply from looking at the play, especially the unit control, for example MKP and MMA have always looked more impressive to me than MVP.


It just proves that there is much more to starcraft 2 than unit control.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 00:10:32
August 26 2012 00:10 GMT
#4054
On August 26 2012 09:07 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 09:04 setzer wrote:
On August 26 2012 09:02 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 09:00 setzer wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:57 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:
[quote]
please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa.

There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons.


Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists.

Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence?

no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times

Considering he beat both MVP and Seed I'm not sure where your logic comes from


How about Seed being the most recent GSL champion

How about Creator being the best player since he just won WCS KR


I'll take a GSL victory and top5 WCS+IPL TAC winner over Creator's WCS win

lol WCS Finals were last night
Creator is better right now.


Only if you have the memory of Dory the Regal tang
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
August 26 2012 00:10 GMT
#4055
They really need the mic the crowd. I think it's not nearly as bad as it sounds.
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
August 26 2012 00:10 GMT
#4056
Go on Crank 4-gate imba Taeja!
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
August 26 2012 00:10 GMT
#4057
On August 26 2012 09:08 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 09:06 Femari wrote:
On August 26 2012 09:02 Zane wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:59 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:58 sam05396 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:57 Femari wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:
[quote]
There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons.


Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists.

Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence?

no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times

He's been much much better than Mvp.

mvp won gsl season 2 then the next tournament he went to he won, idk how u can say he is much much better than mvp

Oh, how he beat MVP in GSL? And it's not like Taeja hasn't won tournaments

So one series decides who's the better player? Come on. It's not the first time this happens. A player wins a couple of foreign torunaments and suddenly he's the best player in the world.


Um that's how you determine who is best at a given point. If Andy Murray is entering all these non Slam tournies and smashing Djoker and Fed and Nadal 6-2 6-3 6-2 constantly, winning most things, would he not be considered the best in the world? Is he not playing the best in the world? Point to a player that would be doing better than him, if you can't that person is the best player in the world at that given moment. That's how it works.

Starleagues determine legends, but they do not determine who is playing the best in the world at every given second.

So is Crank better than Taeja?


Today, yes.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 00:11:06
August 26 2012 00:10 GMT
#4058
On August 26 2012 09:06 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 09:02 Femari wrote:
On August 26 2012 09:00 setzer wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:57 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:
On August 26 2012 08:48 AgentChaos wrote:
overhype player is overhype

please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa.

There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons.


Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists.

Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence?

no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times

Considering he beat both MVP and Seed I'm not sure where your logic comes from


How about Seed being the most recent GSL champion

Reigning GSL champion =/= playing the best at this point in time


Unless you can show me every single practice game of every single player arguing who is actually playing the best is waste of time. What matters is results, and Seed has more of them.


Seed's Results:
+ Show Spoiler +
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Taeja's Results:
+ Show Spoiler +
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Seed has more?
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 26 2012 00:10 GMT
#4059
Maker 2-1 TT1
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
August 26 2012 00:10 GMT
#4060
I love how in Creator's post WCS interview, he said the only player outside KR he fears, is Scarlett ;D
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
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