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On August 26 2012 08:53 Vaftrudner wrote:
Demuslim - MKP game 2
00:00 Cloud Kingdom, Demuslim spawns top right, MKP bottom left
03:00 MKP builds CC on high ground after rax, no gas
04:00 Demuslim has built factory off of one gas and exchanges with reactored rax
04:30 Demuslim building starport, starting hellion production, still on one gas
05:30 Two hellions move into MKP's natural, sees nothing
06:00 Four hellions firing away at newly landed natural CC for MKP, MKP is on pure marine but starts stim and tank production, Demuslim building his natural behind it
07:00 Uncloaked banshee hits MKPs mineral line, gets 6 kills before being pushed back by marines
08:00 MKP's natural CC is lifted, MKP still slightly contained by hellions
08:30 MKP moves out with marines and tanks, breaking the contain, hellions retreat
09:30 The banshee returns to MKP's natural line, gets a few more kills but is taken out
10:00 MKP loads up a huge drop outside Demuslim's natural, lifting into main but is intercepted by marines and fly away
10:30 Demuslim with 39 harvesters to 30 for MKP, banshee having killed 10 workers
11:00 MKP loads up another drop, landing in Demuslim's main
11:20 vikings killing MKP's medivacs but everything unloads
11:40 Demuslim forced to pull SCVs to clean up the drop, but he does clean it up
12:20 supply equal now, both being passive
13:00 MKP building third on the low ground, moves some marines and tanks over to the xelnaga on Demuslim's side
13:40 Demuslim's banshee killing the SCV building the third
14:30 MKP having taken a worker lead now, with equal supplies
15:00 MKP on 1/1 with his third base finished, Demuslim still passive on two bases
15:30 Demuslim moves out on the map but a hidden MKP army goes into the natural
15:50 MKP moving all the way into the main, Demuslim returns home with a superior tank number
16:20 MKP forced to evacuate but taking out most marines and taking the supply lead at 130 to 110
17:50 MKP finishing up 2/2 with Demuslim just having started it
18:20 Demuslim has a central position at the xelnaga but MKP moves around it and attacks the third of Demuslim, forcing to lift
19:00 MKP in a fortified position between Demuslim's tanks on one side and marines on the other outside Demuslim's third position
19:45 MKP pulls back from Demuslim's side of the map
21:00 MKP loads up an enormous drop at the middle but it's spotted by Demuslim and MKP pulls back
22:00 So much happening, I'm sorry that I can't describe everything. Behind all the action and positioning, MKP had gone up to 5 bases with Demuslim on 4. Demuslim had a tank line outside his fourth with two packs on marine on either side, trying to lure MKP into the tank fire and then pincering him with the marines. But MKP had superior supply and dropped his marines on the tanks, taking out the marines with his own tank positioning and cleaning up Demuslim. Demuslim GGs.
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On August 26 2012 08:57 Femari wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 AgentChaos wrote:
overhype player is overhype please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa. There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times He's been much much better than Mvp.
mvp won gsl season 2 then the next tournament he went to he won, idk how u can say he is much much better than mvp
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On August 26 2012 08:57 sam05396 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:57 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 AgentChaos wrote:
overhype player is overhype please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa. There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times During those times? Yes he was. no real way to prove that
Mvp wasnt doing really well until his latest tournament win. Remember him at HSC?
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On August 26 2012 08:58 sam05396 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:57 Femari wrote:On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 AgentChaos wrote:
overhype player is overhype please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa. There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times He's been much much better than Mvp. mvp won gsl season 2 then the next tournament he went to he won, idk how u can say he is much much better than mvp
Oh, how he beat MVP in GSL? And it's not like Taeja hasn't won tournaments 
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On August 26 2012 08:57 aviator116 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 AgentChaos wrote:
overhype player is overhype please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa. There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times Considering he beat both MVP and Seed I'm not sure where your logic comes from
and seed beats taeja
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On August 26 2012 08:59 Roggay wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:57 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 AgentChaos wrote:
overhype player is overhype please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa. There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times During those times? Yes he was. no real way to prove that Mvp wasnt doing really well until his latest tournament win. Remember him at HSC?
yeah Mvp went into a slump after winning GSLs2 and just came back, Taeja was definitely playing better at the time. But that really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
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On August 26 2012 08:58 Vaftrudner wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:53 Vaftrudner wrote:
Demuslim - MKP game 2
00:00 Cloud Kingdom, Demuslim spawns top right, MKP bottom left
03:00 MKP builds CC on high ground after rax, no gas
04:00 Demuslim has built factory off of one gas and exchanges with reactored rax
04:30 Demuslim building starport, starting hellion production, still on one gas
05:30 Two hellions move into MKP's natural, sees nothing
06:00 Four hellions firing away at newly landed natural CC for MKP, MKP is on pure marine but starts stim and tank production, Demuslim building his natural behind it
07:00 Uncloaked banshee hits MKPs mineral line, gets 6 kills before being pushed back by marines
08:00 MKP's natural CC is lifted, MKP still slightly contained by hellions
08:30 MKP moves out with marines and tanks, breaking the contain, hellions retreat
09:30 The banshee returns to MKP's natural line, gets a few more kills but is taken out
10:00 MKP loads up a huge drop outside Demuslim's natural, lifting into main but is intercepted by marines and fly away
10:30 Demuslim with 39 harvesters to 30 for MKP, banshee having killed 10 workers
11:00 MKP loads up another drop, landing in Demuslim's main
11:20 vikings killing MKP's medivacs but everything unloads
11:40 Demuslim forced to pull SCVs to clean up the drop, but he does clean it up
12:20 supply equal now, both being passive
13:00 MKP building third on the low ground, moves some marines and tanks over to the xelnaga on Demuslim's side
13:40 Demuslim's banshee killing the SCV building the third
14:30 MKP having taken a worker lead now, with equal supplies
15:00 MKP on 1/1 with his third base finished, Demuslim still passive on two bases
15:30 Demuslim moves out on the map but a hidden MKP army goes into the natural
15:50 MKP moving all the way into the main, Demuslim returns home with a superior tank number
16:20 MKP forced to evacuate but taking out most marines and taking the supply lead at 130 to 110 17:50 MKP finishing up 2/2 with Demuslim just having started it 18:20 Demuslim has a central position at the xelnaga but MKP moves around it and attacks the third of Demuslim, forcing to lift 19:00 MKP in a fortified position between Demuslim's tanks on one side and marines on the other outside Demuslim's third position 19:45 MKP pulls back from Demuslim's side of the map 21:00 MKP loads up an enormous drop at the middle but it's spotted by Demuslim and MKP pulls back 22:00 So much happening, I'm sorry that I can't describe everything. Behind all the action and positioning, MKP had gone up to 5 bases with Demuslim on 4. Demuslim had a tank line outside his fourth with two packs on marine on either side, trying to lure MKP into the tank fire and then pincering him with the marines. But MKP had superior supply and dropped his marines on the tanks, taking out the marines with his own tank positioning and cleaning up Demuslim. Demuslim GGs.
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On August 26 2012 08:59 Roggay wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:57 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 AgentChaos wrote:
overhype player is overhype please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa. There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times During those times? Yes he was. no real way to prove that Mvp wasnt doing really well until his latest tournament win. Remember him at HSC?
isnt that the tournament he had to go to the hospital during? and hes only been in one other tournament and he won it
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can someone explain to me how there is still an extended series rule?
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"15:30 Demuslim moves out on the map but a hidden MKP army goes into the natural"
Like a visible MKP army isn't scary enough, thanks for the report once again. Epic work!
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On August 26 2012 08:57 Dodgin wrote:
the thing with taeja is he's having an insane short burst of success right now
but there are lots of us who have been around long enough to know that this happens to many players, they have a short burst of success and become the new overhyped " best player in the world " for a month or a couple months and then someone else replaces them. It just gets old. I really like Taeja but the standards people set for him are way too high, fans put so much pressure on him that as soon as he starts losing a series or two someone else becomes the new " best player in the world "
Tis true, and I always tell myself to wait a couple of months before building up hope, but they sometimes look so good when they play, it's hard to start rooting for them...
I think Taeja is so solid and well-rounded, he might be in for the long run ... but that's what I always tell myseld, but oh well, I believe in Taeja (and Seed). He is championship calibre!
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didn't they both leave slayers? lol
yes they both did. one of them gave notice to Jessica and left on good terms, the other
lied to her and tried to join a foreig team. If you look at conversation on twitter between taeja and jessica,
she is really proud that taeja is doing well.
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On August 26 2012 09:00 sam05396 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:59 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 AgentChaos wrote:
overhype player is overhype please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa. There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times During those times? Yes he was. no real way to prove that Mvp wasnt doing really well until his latest tournament win. Remember him at HSC? isnt that the tournament he had to go to the hospital during? and hes only been in one other tournament and he won it
So Taeja was still better than him during that HSCV period.
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United States97276 Posts
Hwangsin 2-1 Hendralisk
MKP 2-0 Demuslim to come out of the losers bracket so far
Select up 1-0 on GosuIllusion/IceCream (not sure which ID he is using atm but bracket says IceCream)
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On August 26 2012 08:57 aviator116 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 AgentChaos wrote:
overhype player is overhype please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa. There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times Considering he beat both MVP and Seed I'm not sure where your logic comes from
How about Seed being the most recent GSL champion
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where can i watch Demuslim vs MKP????
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On August 26 2012 08:37 Wafflelisk wrote:
Demu clutching defeat from the jaws of victory ;/
That had nothing to do with Demuslim throwing the game. MKP outplayed Demuslim. He recognized he was slightly behind so did a drop in Demus base he knew wouldnt be able to be cleaned up cost effectively. He held the watch tower, with his army waiting at Demuslims 3rd to counter attack as soon as Demuslim moved out and he had the upgrade advantage the whole game.
His money was always lower and his supply was always higher.
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On August 26 2012 09:01 derb2k2 wrote:
where can i watch Demuslim vs MKP????
It's over
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On August 26 2012 09:00 sam05396 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:59 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 AgentChaos wrote:
overhype player is overhype please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa. There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times During those times? Yes he was. no real way to prove that Mvp wasnt doing really well until his latest tournament win. Remember him at HSC? isnt that the tournament he had to go to the hospital during? and hes only been in one other tournament and he won it
Hospital or not, Taeja was better during this time, which is what I was arguing against in your post.
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On August 26 2012 08:59 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 08:59 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 AgentChaos wrote:
overhype player is overhype please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa. There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times During those times? Yes he was. no real way to prove that Mvp wasnt doing really well until his latest tournament win. Remember him at HSC? yeah Mvp went into a slump after winning GSLs2 and just came back, Taeja was definitely playing better at the time. But that really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
He was in a slump all year until GSLs2 and then was in a slump after GSLs2 lol
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