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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 13:43:52
August 22 2012 19:11 GMT
#1
Why would a tournament completely fail at marketing themselves? Excellent question. Let's discuss this tournament anyway.

[image loading]

(Wiki)Campus Party Europe

Where? Berlin, Germany
When? August 22nd to August 25th
What? Sixteen man tournament with 25k prize pool

How?
Campus Party Official
EmpireTV (RU)
MoriCup (DE)


Finals

kr mTw.SuperNoVa vs no GLSnute

$7k on the line!





Bracket

no GLSnute vs nl Liquid`Ret

kr MǂforGG vs kr mTw.SuperNoVa

de mouz.HasuObs vs [image loading] FnaticRC.NightEnD

dk FXOBabyKnight vs ua FXOStrelok





Group Stage

Group A
no GLSnute
de aTn.Socke
ua FXOStrelok
de iRa

Results:
+ Show Spoiler +
no GLSnute < Antiga Shipyard > ua FXOStrelok
no GLSnute < Cloud Kingdom > ua FXOStrelok

de aTn.Socke < Antiga Shipyard > de iRa
de aTn.Socke < Cloud Kingdom > de iRa

no GLSnute < Shakuras Plateau > de aTn.Socke
no GLSnute < Daybreak > de aTn.Socke

de iRa < Antiga Shipyard > ua FXOStrelok
de iRa < Cloud Kingdom > ua FXOStrelok

de aTn.Socke < Daybreak > ua FXOStrelok
de aTn.Socke < Cloud Kingdom > ua FXOStrelok

no GLSnute < Daybreak > de iRa
no GLSnute < Ohana > de iRa

Tiebreakers:
de aTn.Socke < Cloud Kingdom > ua FXOStrelok

no GLSnute < Ohana > de aTn.Socke

no GLSnute < Cloud Kingdom > ua FXOStrelok

Group Results:
#1: no GLSnute — 2-1 (4-2, 2-0)
#2: ua FXOStrelok — 2-1 (4-2, 1-1)
#3: de aTn.Socke — 2-1 (4-2, 0-2)
#4: de iRa — 0-3 (0-6)




Group B

fi ROGǂelfi
kr MǂforGG
es Karont3ǂLoLvsxD
[image loading] FnaticRC.NightEnD

Results:
+ Show Spoiler +
fi ROGǂelfi < Antiga Shipyard > [image loading] FnaticRC.NightEnD
fi ROGǂelfi < Cloud Kingdom > [image loading] FnaticRC.NightEnD

kr MǂforGG < Ohana > es Karont3ǂLoLvsxD
kr MǂforGG < Antiga Shipyard > es Karont3ǂLoLvsxD

fi ROGǂelfi < Ohana > kr MǂforGG
fi ROGǂelfi < Cloud Kingdom > kr MǂforGG
fi ROGǂelfi < Antiga Shipyard > kr MǂforGG

es Karont3ǂLoLvsxD < Daybreak > [image loading] FnaticRC.NightEnD
es Karont3ǂLoLvsxD < Entombed Valley > [image loading] FnaticRC.NightEnD

fi ROGǂelfi < Daybreak > es Karont3ǂLoLvsxD
fi ROGǂelfi < Ohana > es Karont3ǂLoLvsxD

kr MǂforGG < Entombed Valley > < Ohana > [image loading] FnaticRC.NightEnD
kr MǂforGG < Entombed Valley > < Entombed Valley > [image loading] FnaticRC.NightEnD
kr MǂforGG < Cloud Kingdom > < Entombed Valley > [image loading] FnaticRC.NightEnD


Group Results:
#1: kr MǂforGG — 3-0 (6-2)
#2: [image loading] FnaticRC.NightEnD — 2-1 (5-2)
#3: fi ROGǂelfi — 1-2 (3-4)
#4: es Karont3ǂLoLvsxD — 0-3 (0-6)




Group C

es x6.AlaStOr
be MǂFeast
de mouz.HasuObs
kr mTw.SuperNoVa

Results:
+ Show Spoiler +
es x6.AlaStOr < Daybreak > be MǂFeast
es x6.AlaStOr < Cloud Kingdom > be MǂFeast

de mouz.HasuObs < Ohana > kr mTw.SuperNoVa
de mouz.HasuObs < Entombed Valley > kr mTw.SuperNoVa
de mouz.HasuObs < Cloud Kingdom > kr mTw.SuperNoVa

es x6.AlaStOr < Antiga Shipyard > kr mTw.SuperNoVa
es x6.AlaStOr < Entombed Valley > kr mTw.SuperNoVa

be MǂFeast < Antiga Shipyard > de mouz.HasuObs
be MǂFeast < Entombed Valley > de mouz.HasuObs
be MǂFeast < Cloud Kingdom > de mouz.HasuObs

be MǂFeast < Daybreak > kr mTw.SuperNoVa
be MǂFeast < Ohana > kr mTw.SuperNoVa
be MǂFeast < Entombed Valley > kr mTw.SuperNoVa

es x6.AlaStOr < Daybreak > de mouz.HasuObs
es x6.AlaStOr < Ohana > de mouz.HasuObs

Group Results:
#1: de mouz.HasuObs — 3-0 (6-2)
#2: kr mTw.SuperNoVa — 2-1 (5-3)
#3: be MǂFeast — 1-2 (4-4)
#4: es x6.AlaStOr — 0-3 (0-6)




Group D

dk FXOBabyKnight
fi FnaticRC.Naama
nl Liquid`Ret
se viPro

Results:
+ Show Spoiler +
fi FnaticRC.Naama < Ohana > nl Liquid`Ret
fi FnaticRC.Naama < Entombed Valley > nl Liquid`Ret

dk FXOBabyKnight < Ohana > se viPro
dk FXOBabyKnight < Antiga Shipyard > se viPro

dk FXOBabyKnight < Antiga Shipyard > nl Liquid`Ret
dk FXOBabyKnight < Daybreak > nl Liquid`Ret

fi FnaticRC.Naama < Antiga Shipyard > se viPro
fi FnaticRC.Naama < Daybreak > se viPro
fi FnaticRC.Naama < Ohana > se viPro

fi FnaticRC.Naama < ??? > dk FXOBabyKnight
fi FnaticRC.Naama < ??? > dk FXOBabyKnight
fi FnaticRC.Naama < ??? > dk FXOBabyKnight

nl Liquid`Ret < Ohana > se viPro
nl Liquid`Ret < Shakuras Plateau > se viPro

Group Results:
#1: dk FXOBabyKnight — 2-1 (5-2)
#2: nl Liquid`Ret — 2-1 (4-2)
#3: fi FnaticRC.Naama — 1-2 (3-5)
#4: se viPro — 1-2 (2-5)





ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
August 22 2012 20:03 GMT
#2
$25,000 and i've never heard of it lolol. What?! Come on now tournaments! It's not that hard to throw up a post on TL and/or reddit!
Wahaha
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
August 22 2012 20:04 GMT
#3
Is this being casted by Kaelaris?
eSports or die tryin'
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
August 22 2012 20:04 GMT
#4
Wow I really wish I knew this was happening I would have loved to watch some of this T_T
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
August 22 2012 20:07 GMT
#5
wtf i would i watched this if i knew about it.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
August 22 2012 20:08 GMT
#6
Worst advertised tournament ever. 25000$ down the toilet.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 22 2012 20:13 GMT
#7
my problem is OK it's a new esport event that was attached to an otherwise large convention. But if you are going to invite these excellent players, give a great prizepool you have a responsibility to YOURSELF to try and salvage some ROI by advertising on the internet FOR FREE. Literally, asking the players to tweet about it.. making a thread with nice graphics on TL.. and you know what? If you don't know HOW to do this.. shave off 1k$ from your budget and find someone who DOES know how to do it. Literally the easiest part about a tourney is advertising. You can suck at it or be ok at it and some are great but to NOT DO IT AT ALL.. horribly irresponsible.

I want so bad for eSports to get big and go mainstream and reach everyone yadayada but when shit like this goes down it reminds me just how far we have to go.
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
August 22 2012 20:14 GMT
#8
Original link to tournament here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=356931

Why wasn't this pushed on TL? It just... disappeared?
eSports or die tryin'
brainox
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany292 Posts
August 22 2012 20:14 GMT
#9
So basically Campus party takes place in berlin. Eventhough i live in berlin i didnt saw, hear anything from it. Even the Campus party itself was poorly advertised. Then the 10000 tickets you could get are already sold out and I am pretty sure that none of them bought it to watch the esport tournament...
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
August 22 2012 20:14 GMT
#10
ForGG is 3-0 in his group...ForGG beat Nightend 2-1 while Nightend 2-0 both Elfi and that spanish zerg.
Just so you know and update!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 22 2012 20:19 GMT
#11
Wow, I'm actually impressed by how badly this was promoted. $25k prizepool too.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 22 2012 20:24 GMT
#12
On August 23 2012 05:14 Bedrock wrote:
Original link to tournament here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=356931

Why wasn't this pushed on TL? It just... disappeared?

Not our responsibility.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 20:37:56
August 22 2012 20:32 GMT
#13
I don´t know what the snute vs strelok seed situation ended up with - we played a game for the seed (edit: hosted and supervised by admins), so I don´t know if it matters that I got 2-0d by Strelok in the groupstages in this tournament or not. Maybe it turns out that playing for the seed was wrong. Admins will have to update on this tomorrow, but: the groupstage results were discounted for a fresh start (for now at least)..
Team Liquid
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 20:39:19
August 22 2012 20:35 GMT
#14
On August 23 2012 05:24 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 05:14 Bedrock wrote:
Original link to tournament here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=356931

Why wasn't this pushed on TL? It just... disappeared?

Not our responsibility.

Cmon, you really think it didn't get deserved to get featured under community news? I agree the tournament dropped the ball big time in terms of promotion across the board, but I really think any tournament with a 25k prize pool should be featured when it is announced.... Seems unfair that the RB event which isn't even really a competitive tournament is listed, and whenever MLG or any other major announces a commentary line-up, not even tournament details, its featured, but not this type of tournament.

edit: Ok, you featured it, good job guys :D... now Treehugger don't you have a TLpro article to write on Ret attending? :D
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
August 22 2012 20:35 GMT
#15
On August 23 2012 05:24 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 05:14 Bedrock wrote:
Original link to tournament here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=356931

Why wasn't this pushed on TL? It just... disappeared?

Not our responsibility.


I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. I want to know the priorities of this tournament and if the marketer/promoter dropped the ball by missing out on some viewership.

What do their sponsors want?

Something is amiss..

eSports or die tryin'
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 22 2012 20:39 GMT
#16
On August 23 2012 05:32 Snute wrote:
I don´t know what the snute vs strelok seed situation ended up with - we played a game for the seed, so I don´t know if it matters that I got 2-0d by Strelok in the groupstages in this tournament or not. Maybe it turns out that playing for the seed was wrong. Admins will have to update on this tomorrow, but afaik, the groupstage results were discounted for a fresh start. Idk if it is common practice or not. We will see.

Liquidpedia didn't list that game, so I simply assumed. I'm not better informed than you, don't worry.

On August 23 2012 05:35 Adebisi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 05:24 tree.hugger wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:14 Bedrock wrote:
Original link to tournament here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=356931

Why wasn't this pushed on TL? It just... disappeared?

Not our responsibility.

Cmon, you really think it didn't get deserved to get featured under community news? I agree the tournament dropped the ball big time in terms of promotion across the board, but I really think any tournament with a 25k prize pool should be featured when it is announced.... Seems unfair that the RB event which isn't even really a competitive tournament is listed, and whenever MLG or any other major announces a commentary line-up, not even tournament details, its featured, but not this type of tournament.
Well, it's been added there now at any rate. A few things. First off, this tournament doesn't really make our frontpage news, but community news is an appropriate place for it. Ultimately, if you want your tournament to be covered, you need to badger people about it, because if it's not well known, someone is going to forget, especially if the announcement post was almost a month ago.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
August 22 2012 20:40 GMT
#17
Shame.. such a great line up and huge prizepool.. luckily there are vods out there..
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 21:11:48
August 22 2012 21:05 GMT
#18
I was really shocked when I tuned in and it had 200 viewers.... 500 an hour later then finally the stream got listed. But really poor Kaelaris, he was the only one who tweeted about it and gave his best no matter what. I really hope this gets more attention tomorrow.

Edit: Huge probs to tree.hugger for doing this btw!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 21:16:02
August 22 2012 21:10 GMT
#19
To be honest it's just plain stupid to not have a LR thread for a tournament this huge. The thread in the sc2 forums OBVIOUSLY got washed away, because it's not as easily viewable. Even a non-updated-OP LR thread would've been better than what we had before this thread opened (thanks tree.hugger!).

Anyway, gogo SuperNova and good job ForGG so far. Socke failed once more, too bad


edit: also i think there are just a lot of tournaments, else i bet that TL would've written a "Ret to Campus Party" Liquid team news or something else. Ah well, it's definitely not TL's fault that this tournament did have a bad viewercount on day 1.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
August 22 2012 21:17 GMT
#20
So who will make an LR thread for Day 2 tomorrow? I can't, I will be at work.

opterown to the rescue? Or will it be too late for Aussies?
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