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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 19 2012 19:06 GMT
#101
Man, that engage from life made me so sad, because he had to take it to save his fourth but he was in such a rough spot.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
August 19 2012 19:08 GMT
#102
On August 20 2012 04:05 trias_e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 03:50 Dinotramp wrote:
On August 20 2012 03:49 SinTio wrote:
On August 20 2012 03:48 Dinotramp wrote:
Really noob question so I apologise, what do people mean when they say 15 pool or 10 pool or X pool??


Number of drones at the time the pool goes down.


So are there really major differences with a 12 pool and a 15 pool say. How does it affect the outcome of the game?


For sure. It's fairly straightforward. Someone who puts down an earlier pool needs to do damage to the later pool player who has a better economy or else they will be behind. It changes how each player needs to approach the game, at least the early game.


Thanks! That's very helpful!

Also, can someone explain how Larvae works? I'v read various articles and the wiki but I'm still confuzzled D:
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45337 Posts
August 19 2012 19:10 GMT
#103
On August 20 2012 04:06 ragz_gt wrote:
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On August 20 2012 04:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
This series just seems so boring to me, and I generally don't even mind ZvZ.


Problem is Life looks to be playing scared. He seems to be afraid to play straight against Curious and keep making weird decisions.


Yeah I think that's definitely part of it.

On August 20 2012 04:06 figq wrote:
This third game was great fun and so back and forth. I guess to non-zergs ZvZ may be boring, but to me it looks sometimes as the most entertaining matchup out of all six. So much action, so unpredictable.


There's a lot of questionable decision-making going on in this series. Like game one: Opponent is hardcore failing in an all-in, so counter and throw away all your units instead of creating defense for an auto-win? Just really really weird stuff all around.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 19:11:37
August 19 2012 19:10 GMT
#104
On August 20 2012 04:06 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 04:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
This series just seems so boring to me, and I generally don't even mind ZvZ.


Problem is Life looks to be playing scared. He seems to be afraid to play straight against Curious and keep making weird decisions.


He decided to change his strategy mid-game, and that cost him small advantages that added up to a loss.

Curious is also trying to hard-counter him by opening early roach warren and threatening pressure before lair tech.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4261 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 19:13:02
August 19 2012 19:11 GMT
#105
On August 20 2012 04:06 figq wrote:
This third game was great fun and so back and forth. I guess to non-zergs ZvZ may be boring, but to me it looks sometimes as the most entertaining matchup out of all six. So much action, so unpredictable.


ZvZ has its moments but overall I dont like spectating it that much. It was the same in BW, at least for me, and in BW I even played zerg so TT...maybe its just a personal thing (as oposed to a knowledge or "my own race" thing).
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
August 19 2012 19:12 GMT
#106
On August 20 2012 04:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
This series just seems so boring to me, and I generally don't even mind ZvZ.

ZvZzzzzz is the matchup i hate, TvZ is the best

i would have subscribed TSL+ if it had an option to send me SMS alert for when some match i want to watch start
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 19 2012 19:12 GMT
#107
On August 20 2012 04:06 figq wrote:
This third game was great fun and so back and forth. I guess to non-zergs ZvZ may be boring, but to me it looks sometimes as the most entertaining matchup out of all six. So much action, so unpredictable. Just when you think you know where the game is going, it can turn upside down in a matter of seconds.

I like watching ZvZ sometimes but I enjoy SC2 much more when I can understand what happened but when I watch ZvZ I'm often left with "Uh how did he just do that?"
Glorious SEA doto
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 19 2012 19:14 GMT
#108
On August 20 2012 04:11 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 04:06 figq wrote:
This third game was great fun and so back and forth. I guess to non-zergs ZvZ may be boring, but to me it looks sometimes as the most entertaining matchup out of all six. So much action, so unpredictable.


ZvZ has its moments but overall I dont like spectating it that much. It was the same in BW, at least for me, and in BW I even played zerg so TT...maybe its just a personal thing (as oposed to a knowledge or "my own race" thing).

At least I understood what was going on in BW ZvZs. I can never seem to call an engagement in Roach Infestor fights
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 19 2012 19:15 GMT
#109
I never get the term "Take your cake and eat it" what the hell else do you want me to do with my cake? Admire it.
Glorious SEA doto
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 19 2012 19:15 GMT
#110
Curious is probably the best zerg in Korea right now.
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 19:16:00
August 19 2012 19:15 GMT
#111
Please find a roach speed +1 timing Life ><
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45337 Posts
August 19 2012 19:16 GMT
#112
Really good decision-making there by Curious, keeping his lings at home to defend his own third and moving his roaches out to kill Life's third.

But now he might die lol
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 19 2012 19:16 GMT
#113
Curious may have the base advantage but life will have an infestor count before curious does.
Glorious SEA doto
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45337 Posts
August 19 2012 19:17 GMT
#114
On August 20 2012 04:15 stuchiu wrote:
Curious is probably the best zerg in Korea right now.


You're saying that after watching this series? Seriously?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 19 2012 19:18 GMT
#115
(Z)Curious vs. (Z)Life Game 4

On Antiga Shipyard
Curious spawns 11
Life spawns 5

2:00
Both players going hatch first.

2:40
Curious delaying gas to get more drones out.

4:00
Life starts his speed. Curious' speed is 30 seconds behind.

5:00
Curious gets a roach warren, Life getting a baneling nest.

6:00
Life making a lot of lings. Curious making 7 roaches for defense..

7:00
Life doesn't do much damage. Making spines.

7:50
Curious attacks with his roaches. Life cancels two spines and stops the push.

8:30
Both players getting a third, Curious' is faster.

9:00
Life attacks Curious' third which is deflected. Curious sending a ton of roaches to Life's third.

10:50
Curious kills Life's third and trades fairly evenly with the roaches.

11:30
Life attacking with a lot of roaches, Curious gets another cancel on the third.

12:50
Curious holds off the attack but has lost a lot of drones. Life attacking again.

14:00
Curious holds off the attack but Life now has the drone lead.
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mijellin
Profile Joined November 2008
China740 Posts
August 19 2012 19:18 GMT
#116
I wish TSL had food count in top center as well as top right, like many other tournaments
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 19 2012 19:20 GMT
#117
On August 20 2012 04:15 stuchiu wrote:
Curious is probably the best zerg in Korea right now.


How can you come into that conclusion?

Even when DRG is derping he is derping at a higher lvl than Curious' peak.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 19 2012 19:21 GMT
#118
On August 20 2012 04:18 imallinson wrote:
(Z)Curious vs. (Z)Life Game 4

On Antiga Shipyard
Curious spawns 11
Life spawns 5

2:00
Both players going hatch first.

2:40
Curious delaying gas to get more drones out.

4:00
Life starts his speed. Curious' speed is 30 seconds behind.

5:00
Curious gets a roach warren, Life getting a baneling nest.

6:00
Life making a lot of lings. Curious making 7 roaches for defense..

7:00
Life doesn't do much damage. Making spines.

7:50
Curious attacks with his roaches. Life cancels two spines and stops the push.

8:30
Both players getting a third, Curious' is faster.

9:00
Life attacks Curious' third which is deflected. Curious sending a ton of roaches to Life's third.

10:50
Curious kills Life's third and trades fairly evenly with the roaches.

11:30
Life attacking with a lot of roaches, Curious gets another cancel on the third.

12:50
Curious holds off the attack but has lost a lot of drones. Life attacking again.

14:00
Curious holds off the attack but Life now has the drone lead.


15:00
Life loses a mis-rallied infestor but still has four wheras Curious doesn't have an infestation pit yet.

16:30
Curious only now getting his infestation pit.

17:00
Life moving out with a +2 timing. Curious doesn't have any infestors.

18:00
Curious has less oraches and no infestors and his army gets crushed. Curious ggs.

Life wins.
Curious 2-2 Life
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Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
August 19 2012 19:21 GMT
#119
WHAT IS THE SONG PLAYING DURING TSL4+ BREAKS?
wat.
Niflheim
Profile Joined February 2012
United States313 Posts
August 19 2012 19:21 GMT
#120
curious seems to always tech to infestors so late.. he did the same thing in the last game and took a big supply dip in one of the fights but life didn't press his advantage like he did that time
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