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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45732 Posts
August 19 2012 20:41 GMT
#381
On August 20 2012 05:39 Hypemeup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Hahahaha dApollo's cheer for his teammate...


Funny enough Apollo is not really showing any big bias when casting, digging it.


dApollo's one of my favorite commentators, and I think one of the best casters objectively as well. Great understanding of the game, great passion and enthusiasm, and makes me giggle when he occasionally says "cheeky".
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 20:42:24
August 19 2012 20:41 GMT
#382
On August 20 2012 05:38 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:35 blade55555 wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:34 Yagami wrote:
Patchzergs fighting!


Totally who knew that losing 12 bfh's and doing 0 damage took a patch to deal with!


Here's a thought: Maybe bio isn't actually that viable.

Here's a rundown of most TvZs lately:

Did Terran go bio?

Yup.

Did Zerg Win?

Probably

Did Terran go mech?

Yeah man.

Did Zerg Win?

Nope. Not easily at the very least.


MVP went bio in 2 of his 3 wins vs Nerchio today and 2 of his 3 wins vs Vortix.

He pretty much uses mech more than anyone, but he still doesn't do it more than 50% of TvZ games
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 20:43:21
August 19 2012 20:42 GMT
#383
On August 20 2012 05:38 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:35 blade55555 wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:34 Yagami wrote:
Patchzergs fighting!


Totally who knew that losing 12 bfh's and doing 0 damage took a patch to deal with!


Here's a thought: Maybe bio isn't actually that viable.

Here's a rundown of most TvZs lately:

Did Terran go bio?

Yup.

Did Zerg Win?

Probably

Did Terran go mech?

Yeah man.

Did Zerg Win?

Nope. Not easily at the very least.


I still see terrans go bio and win alot lol. That game Keen was very, very behind all game long. Had he gone mech he would have still lost badly, probably more bad then had he gone bio.

Also post above me ^_^. I didn't watch IEM so didn't know that there were bio games there to of mvp winning with it and probably supernova to. .
When I think of something else, something will go here
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
August 19 2012 20:43 GMT
#384
MorroW timing with the Spine Crawler.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 20:44:10
August 19 2012 20:43 GMT
#385
On August 20 2012 05:42 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:38 ZeromuS wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:35 blade55555 wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:34 Yagami wrote:
Patchzergs fighting!


Totally who knew that losing 12 bfh's and doing 0 damage took a patch to deal with!


Here's a thought: Maybe bio isn't actually that viable.

Here's a rundown of most TvZs lately:

Did Terran go bio?

Yup.

Did Zerg Win?

Probably

Did Terran go mech?

Yeah man.

Did Zerg Win?

Nope. Not easily at the very least.


I still see terrans go bio and win alot lol. That game Keen was very, very behind all game long. Had he gone mech he would have still lost badly, probably more bad then had he gone bio.

Also post above me ^_^. I didn't watch IEM so didn't know .

watch g2 and g3 of the finals, they were absolutely epic
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
August 19 2012 20:43 GMT
#386
On August 20 2012 05:37 Hypemeup wrote:
Antiga shipyard.

Oh boy I wonder if we will see a all-in from the zerg!


Anyone who thinks this is T-favored is misinformed.
Never make a hydralisk.
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
August 19 2012 20:44 GMT
#387
Those hellions doin some damage
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
August 19 2012 20:44 GMT
#388
On August 20 2012 05:43 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:42 blade55555 wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:38 ZeromuS wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:35 blade55555 wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:34 Yagami wrote:
Patchzergs fighting!


Totally who knew that losing 12 bfh's and doing 0 damage took a patch to deal with!


Here's a thought: Maybe bio isn't actually that viable.

Here's a rundown of most TvZs lately:

Did Terran go bio?

Yup.

Did Zerg Win?

Probably

Did Terran go mech?

Yeah man.

Did Zerg Win?

Nope. Not easily at the very least.


I still see terrans go bio and win alot lol. That game Keen was very, very behind all game long. Had he gone mech he would have still lost badly, probably more bad then had he gone bio.

Also post above me ^_^. I didn't watch IEM so didn't know .

watch g2 and g3 of the finals, they were absolutely epi


IEM was fantastic this year for one reason. Seeing a Zerg build a CC and become so so lose to dropping MULE's :D
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 20:45:12
August 19 2012 20:44 GMT
#389
On August 20 2012 05:42 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:38 ZeromuS wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:35 blade55555 wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:34 Yagami wrote:
Patchzergs fighting!


Totally who knew that losing 12 bfh's and doing 0 damage took a patch to deal with!


Here's a thought: Maybe bio isn't actually that viable.

Here's a rundown of most TvZs lately:

Did Terran go bio?

Yup.

Did Zerg Win?

Probably

Did Terran go mech?

Yeah man.

Did Zerg Win?

Nope. Not easily at the very least.


I still see terrans go bio and win alot lol. That game Keen was very, very behind all game long. Had he gone mech he would have still lost badly, probably more bad then had he gone bio.

Also post above me ^_^. I didn't watch IEM so didn't know .


I should probably have spoiler tagged that ><

Games are worth watching though, MVP played probably the nicest I've seen from him since he won GSL this year and both Zergs had some great moments.

(What's your thoughts on mass speed reaper medivac on Daybreak? =p)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 19 2012 20:44 GMT
#390
On August 20 2012 05:43 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:37 Hypemeup wrote:
Antiga shipyard.

Oh boy I wonder if we will see a all-in from the zerg!


Anyone who thinks this is T-favored is misinformed.


It's a god awful map so hard to get a fourth. The only reason zergs were doing extremely well on it lately was because terrans had to change their styles vs the new 6 queen style of play.

When I think of something else, something will go here
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
August 19 2012 20:44 GMT
#391
On August 20 2012 05:43 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:37 Hypemeup wrote:
Antiga shipyard.

Oh boy I wonder if we will see a all-in from the zerg!


Anyone who thinks this is T-favored is misinformed.


Yeah, but zergs do all-in a shit-ton on this map. Just like protoss players love blink all-ins vs T on this map as well.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 19 2012 20:45 GMT
#392
On August 20 2012 05:44 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:43 MCDayC wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:42 blade55555 wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:38 ZeromuS wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:35 blade55555 wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:34 Yagami wrote:
Patchzergs fighting!


Totally who knew that losing 12 bfh's and doing 0 damage took a patch to deal with!


Here's a thought: Maybe bio isn't actually that viable.

Here's a rundown of most TvZs lately:

Did Terran go bio?

Yup.

Did Zerg Win?

Probably

Did Terran go mech?

Yeah man.

Did Zerg Win?

Nope. Not easily at the very least.


I still see terrans go bio and win alot lol. That game Keen was very, very behind all game long. Had he gone mech he would have still lost badly, probably more bad then had he gone bio.

Also post above me ^_^. I didn't watch IEM so didn't know .

watch g2 and g3 of the finals, they were absolutely epi


IEM was fantastic this year for one reason. Seeing a Zerg build a CC and become so so lose to dropping MULE's :D

All due to King MVP generosity, truly he is a benevolent dictator.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 19 2012 20:45 GMT
#393
On August 20 2012 05:39 Hypemeup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Hahahaha dApollo's cheer for his teammate...


Funny enough Apollo is not really showing any big bias when casting, digging it.

Well he plays random afterall.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
August 19 2012 20:45 GMT
#394
On August 20 2012 05:41 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:38 ZeromuS wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:35 blade55555 wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:34 Yagami wrote:
Patchzergs fighting!


Totally who knew that losing 12 bfh's and doing 0 damage took a patch to deal with!


Here's a thought: Maybe bio isn't actually that viable.

Here's a rundown of most TvZs lately:

Did Terran go bio?

Yup.

Did Zerg Win?

Probably

Did Terran go mech?

Yeah man.

Did Zerg Win?

Nope. Not easily at the very least.


MVP went bio in 2 of his 3 wins vs Nerchio today and 2 of his 3 wins vs Vortix.

He pretty much uses mech more than anyone, but he still doesn't do it more than 50% of TvZ games


But he always used a strong transition to a skymech style.

I don't want to say you can't play bio but in the end MVP won because he was using tanks at the core to defend, some PFs to help out. On top of this the transition to anti broodlord raven compositions with vikings that still survived against ultralisk switches thanks to banshees was impressive and won most games.

I think MVP played a not bio focused throughout the whole game style really well.

I guess what I am trying to say is that focusing on bio into the lategame is terrible and that transitioning to a more mech army is better.

Most of the time bio wins it isn't in the lategame not without a transition away from MMM as the core units.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 19 2012 20:46 GMT
#395
On August 20 2012 05:44 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 05:42 blade55555 wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:38 ZeromuS wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:35 blade55555 wrote:
On August 20 2012 05:34 Yagami wrote:
Patchzergs fighting!


Totally who knew that losing 12 bfh's and doing 0 damage took a patch to deal with!


Here's a thought: Maybe bio isn't actually that viable.

Here's a rundown of most TvZs lately:

Did Terran go bio?

Yup.

Did Zerg Win?

Probably

Did Terran go mech?

Yeah man.

Did Zerg Win?

Nope. Not easily at the very least.


I still see terrans go bio and win alot lol. That game Keen was very, very behind all game long. Had he gone mech he would have still lost badly, probably more bad then had he gone bio.

Also post above me ^_^. I didn't watch IEM so didn't know .


I should probably have spoiler tagged that ><

Games are worth watching though, MVP played probably the nicest I've seen from him since he won GSL this year and both Zergs had some great moments.

(What's your thoughts on mass speed reaper medivac on Daybreak? =p)


I actually faced mass speed reaper/medivac vs byun on MKP's account. I beat it easily and don't think it's that good if other player goes roaches (which I did ).
When I think of something else, something will go here
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 19 2012 20:46 GMT
#396
(T)KeeN vs. (Z)JonnyREcco Game 2

On Antiga Shipyard
KeeN spawns 2
JonnyREcco spawns 8

2:00
JR going hatch first. Keen going for gas after his rax.

3:30
Keen starts his factory and going for hellions. JR not getting gas going for queens and a spine.

5:00
Keen builds a cc at his natural. Building a tech lab on his rax.

6:40
JR stops the hellions going into his main but attacks the hellions with his drones and loses 10 drones.

8:00
Keen runs more hellions in and gets more drone kills now up to 17. JR still doesn't have ling speed. Keen getting his third cc.

9:00
JR moving across the map with slow roaches. Keen scouts it and has a bunker and tank at his front.

10:00
JR takes his third and going double upgrades and finally starts ling speed. Keen getting a second engie bay.

11:30
Keen moving out with marines and tanks. Takes down the rocks to the third.
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 19 2012 20:46 GMT
#397
What is Keen doing, why didn't he micro his marines at all
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
August 19 2012 20:46 GMT
#398
Nice split, Keen.
Join the Liquipedia Zerg Project ! PM me for more information :).
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#399
GODDAMN IT KEEN
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#400
Keen playing so off this series, its weird to see.
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