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On August 14 2012 20:57 opterown wrote:guys, please relax and just ignore squeegy  game is sloppy, but that's no excuse to get distracted arguing!
TL is so stupid for not having an ignore feature. Every other msg board on the internet has it. There's no confusion because replies to troll/retard posts are quoted. Instead I have to try to skim through the usernames constantly to ignore the continuous posts by idiots every LR thread. So freaking stupid.
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2 Base Brood Lords... Am I watching a 4v4?
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On August 14 2012 21:00 BlindKill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:56 BlindKill wrote:
YGO : I was gonna base trade, but then i got high, ooooooh , I was gonna win the game, but then i got high, laaata-tata YGO : and now I went 0-2 and I know why HEH-HEY! because I got high, because I got high, because I got high. 
I think I love you for this
This game actually pains me to watch, how this game was thrown like this I genuinely can't comprehend
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On August 14 2012 21:01 Caesarion wrote:
What happened to YugiOh, I thought he was always consistently pretty good.
T.T
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Yugioh will drag this out another10mins, won't he? -.-
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Yugioh going full kespa
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On August 14 2012 20:54 Squeegy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:48 Assirra wrote:On August 14 2012 20:42 Squeegy wrote:On August 14 2012 20:38 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 20:31 Squeegy wrote:On August 14 2012 20:27 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 20:25 opterown wrote:
guys, Squeegy is the biggest pro-bw poster ever, i recommend not getting into arguments with him Earlier he posted, without irony, 'U mad??' Yeah just let him get on with it. But I explain my reasoning in my posts and I welcome anyone to disagree with the points. But nobody ever actually produces an argument. They assert and they twist. Explain a flaw in my reasoning and I will listen. Of course that "u mad" would be an exception. Because no one really cares about whatever point it actually is that you're trying to make when it's sandwiched with all the smug flame baiting. A player we all expect to be really good beat a player who seems to be slumping compared to his previous domination. The time to start shouting that the domination of the clearly superior kespa players is beginning is not now, when there's no actual evidence for that. If I were to listen to you, it would never be there. Everytime a player is slumping or playing below his standards. If that is the case, then I think the more reasonable explanation is that you're rating the GSL palyers based on their best. Not on their average. Kespa are already competetive with GSL, I think that is quite established. I don't think that many people are denying that some kespa players can indeed play on GSL lvl. However isn't it normal that people want their favorite players to be on their best and when they play lower and get defeated they say it? DRG for instance has been mentally down ever since GSL/GSTL semi finals. SC has been in the hospital for quite some time. Does that mean that the kespa players didn't outplayed them? ofc they did. And i would love if some of them qualified for the next GSL. New players in a competition is always good. Oh and just a tip, don't seriously mention that article if you want to be taken serious. It was a bunch of nonsense that was written way to early on the basis that sc2 wouldn't evolve at all. Because they are excuses. Has been mentally down? What does that really mean. How much worse is he playing? I can guarantee you that game three he played great. Effort was just better. Moreover, the validity of the claims of them playing below their standard are, well, questionable when it according to some happens every single time they lose. Note: I am not saying every time Kespa player has won, it has been the GSL player playing their best. Who are you to tell me not to mention it? That article was essentially the opinion of any BW player at the time. Including mine. And it still is. And it makes sense. People just keep misunderstanding it and building strawmen.
How much worse has he been playing? Just watch his match against creator alone. The old DRG would never attack up a ramp with his whole army when the protoss was waiting for it. in the same match next set he won but he lost so much muta's he would never have lost before. DRG hasn't won a single match since the GSL ro8.
Was Effort better? Hell yea he was better, otherwise he didn't win.
Note: i am not saying this is not for every GSL player but DRG is atm simply not playing on his standard.
What strawman arguement exactly? read the article and i quote again.
I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch.
It's not a strawman argument when its taking litterly from the article right?
and please don't start with the "it meant something different" or "read between the lines" crap.
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On August 14 2012 21:01 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 20:57 Squeegy wrote:On August 14 2012 20:53 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 20:42 Squeegy wrote:On August 14 2012 20:38 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 20:31 Squeegy wrote:On August 14 2012 20:27 The KY wrote:On August 14 2012 20:25 opterown wrote:
guys, Squeegy is the biggest pro-bw poster ever, i recommend not getting into arguments with him Earlier he posted, without irony, 'U mad??' Yeah just let him get on with it. But I explain my reasoning in my posts and I welcome anyone to disagree with the points. But nobody ever actually produces an argument. They assert and they twist. Explain a flaw in my reasoning and I will listen. Of course that "u mad" would be an exception. Because no one really cares about whatever point it actually is that you're trying to make when it's sandwiched with all the smug flame baiting. A player we all expect to be really good beat a player who seems to be slumping compared to his previous domination. The time to start shouting that the domination of the clearly superior kespa players is beginning is not now, when there's no actual evidence for that. If I were to listen to you, it would never be there. Everytime a player is slumping or playing below his standards. If that is the case, then I think the more reasonable explanation is that you're rating the GSL palyers based on their best. Not on their average. Kespa are already competetive with GSL, I think that is quite established. Yeah I saw this argument coming...come on man, DRG is slumping. He was the fucking final boss of the GSTL, he carried his team to the finals pretty much single handedly. For quite a while he was the undisputed best zerg in the world. This is clearly no longer the case. He is worse now, on average/at his best, whatever, than he was 6 months ago. No one is arguing that Kespa is not competitive with GSL, like I said it's what we all expect. Earlier on you posted that 'first it was Kespa players can't beat GSL players, then they can't beat Code S players, now it's MVP and Oz...soon MVP and Oz will lose as well.' No shit dude. You appear to be having an argument with imaginary people that think that Kespa players will never reach the level of GSL Code S stalwarts; no one thinks that. No one. It's almost self evident, in fact. However what we do disagree with is the idea that Kespa players are going to dominate completely. There's really nothing except fanboyism to indicate that they will. I should hope that we are all happy that Kespa players are beginning (key word beginning) to be competitive with GSL players. But when people jump into LR threads shouting about that fucking elephant then yeah, people get a little defensive. Do you want me to find quotes, because I can assure you, it is not imaginary people. Actually, there are many rational reasons to believe that Kespa will dominate. It certainly is not just fanboyism. I am not saying 100% of GSL players will become insignificant, of course not. But yes, I find it puzzling that some think Kespa will not dominate. And you will see that they will. By all means find me the people who think that it's impossible for BW pros who practiced Starcraft for years to catch up to GSL players and we can all laugh at them together. But that's not the people I've seen you arguing with in this thread.
Don't bother. He's being obtuse and you won't change his overblown opinion.
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Poll: Worst series?This (18) 51% hyun vs Forzen (12) 34% Min vs Thebest (5) 14% 35 total votes Your vote: Worst series? (Vote): Min vs Thebest
(Vote): hyun vs Forzen
(Vote): This
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It actually takes a lot of talent to make the number of consecutive mistakes that Yugioh is making
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yugioh playing so horribly but haha kespa going 3/3, so sick and awesome
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On August 14 2012 21:01 Orek wrote:
Can we now stop this Kespa vs non Kespa?
Who cares if you are right about future prediction on if Kespa players will rule or not?
Do you win money or something if you are right?
Well funny you should mention that as I do have a £5 bet on with a friend that no Kespa player will win GSL in the next 8 months...
But yeah you're right.
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It takes real skill to lose a game where you had over 20 mutas against 5 stalkers. I applaud you Yugioh.
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On August 14 2012 21:03 bo1b wrote:Poll: Worst series?This (18) 51% hyun vs Forzen (12) 34% Min vs Thebest (5) 14% 35 total votes Your vote: Worst series? (Vote): Min vs Thebest
(Vote): hyun vs Forzen
(Vote): This
No love for Happy-ToD?
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On August 14 2012 21:03 Pandemona wrote:Man when did YuGiOh get this bad xD oh well Can u make IEM thread already Op town, u slacking 
nope. It's been up
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Just gg already for my sake!!!
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Please lose already Yugioh. Im tired of this match.
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EPT
