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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
August 13 2012 09:42 GMT
#201
Squritle wins already. ^^ If you lose even one phoenix in pheonix mirrors this early, you just lose.
Moderator
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
August 13 2012 09:43 GMT
#202
never thought I'd hear nice micro for phoenixes moving with phoenixes
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 13 2012 09:43 GMT
#203
On August 13 2012 18:41 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 18:39 Yello wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:38 Yello wrote:
Game 2: Shakuras Plateau (for the first time in WCS Korea!)
Genius spawns as the red Protoss in the position top right.
Squirtle spawns as the blue Protoss in the position bottom left.


Nice Squirtle Fangirls ^_^

4:00min
Both players going for the normal Gate-Gas-Core
Genius takes his 2nd Gas earlier this time though.


6:00min
Both players are going for Zealot and then Sentry.
Both players go for Stargate on similar timings!

Mirror builds so far, both players with the same unit count as well.


8:00min
First real deviation: Squirtle adds a third Gate while Genius stays on 2. Genius moves out with his first 2 Phoenix and finally both players realize they played mirror build
Squirtle engages with 3 Phoenix against Genius 2 and kills both of them
Genius goes for a Robo and a 3rd Gate now while Squirtle decides to expand.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
August 13 2012 09:43 GMT
#204
Remember, the counter to Pheonix is Hatchery! I mean Nexus...
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 13 2012 09:43 GMT
#205
On August 13 2012 18:41 NrGmonk wrote:
Stargate vs stargate, especially from stargates of similar timing, will be fun! First time in a pro-game outside of proleague I think.

Husky casted a LiquidHerovP game where it became Phoenix vs. Phoenix (Even with range upgrade). I don't remember from what the game came from though
EZ4ENCE
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 13 2012 09:44 GMT
#206
On August 13 2012 18:39 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 18:38 Shock710 wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:35 FataLe wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:31 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:31 Shock710 wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:23 Fionn wrote:
I still want to know what the WCS Global Finals prize pool is. I wonder if Blizzard will look at Riot's World Championship and try to make a new record for biggest prize pool in SC2.



It's gonna be big. My guess would be around 100,000$ for first, but that's just a guess.

it kinda seems to have the smallest prize pool out of the big games, like LoL and dota2


But the tournaments are more frequent, far more frequent.

Also Riot and Valve are the main sponsors for the prize pools of the tournaments.

GSL, MLG, Dreamhack, etc. All of those obtain their own funding via sponsors Blizzard hasn't been directly supporting them.

So the prize pool numbers are a bit deceiving, and the question must be asked of what would those two games' esports scene look like without the direct funding from Riot and Valve.

also moba are team games lol (no pun).

the prize has to be split amongst the team.


Also a very good point.

The famous 1,000,000 dollar DOTA2 tournament worked out to 200,000 per player which is still a lot, but that's not that much more than what some of the higher end SC2 tournaments go for.

isnt 200,000 more than the GSL and OSL prizepools?

Wasnt that tourney a big marketing thing and one time? But yah highest SC2 one was the 100k super tourney to Polt

Well the international dota2 tourny happening now is 1.5 mil
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
August 13 2012 09:44 GMT
#207
On August 13 2012 18:43 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 18:41 NrGmonk wrote:
Stargate vs stargate, especially from stargates of similar timing, will be fun! First time in a pro-game outside of proleague I think.

Husky casted a LiquidHerovP game where it became Phoenix vs. Phoenix (Even with range upgrade). I don't remember from what the game came from though


That was Hero vs Inori. I did a cast of it too.

Was a very entertaining game. Phoenix vs Phoenix is so funny.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 13 2012 09:44 GMT
#208
On August 13 2012 18:43 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 18:41 Yello wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:39 Yello wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:38 Yello wrote:
Game 2: Shakuras Plateau (for the first time in WCS Korea!)
Genius spawns as the red Protoss in the position top right.
Squirtle spawns as the blue Protoss in the position bottom left.


Nice Squirtle Fangirls ^_^

4:00min
Both players going for the normal Gate-Gas-Core
Genius takes his 2nd Gas earlier this time though.


6:00min
Both players are going for Zealot and then Sentry.
Both players go for Stargate on similar timings!

Mirror builds so far, both players with the same unit count as well.


8:00min
First real deviation: Squirtle adds a third Gate while Genius stays on 2. Genius moves out with his first 2 Phoenix and finally both players realize they played mirror build
Squirtle engages with 3 Phoenix against Genius 2 and kills both of them
Genius goes for a Robo and a 3rd Gate now while Squirtle decides to expand.


10:00min
Genius expands now too, Both players have 7 Phoenix now, Squirtle goes for Blink
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
August 13 2012 09:45 GMT
#209
On August 13 2012 18:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 18:38 Shock710 wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:35 FataLe wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:31 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:31 Shock710 wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:23 Fionn wrote:
I still want to know what the WCS Global Finals prize pool is. I wonder if Blizzard will look at Riot's World Championship and try to make a new record for biggest prize pool in SC2.



It's gonna be big. My guess would be around 100,000$ for first, but that's just a guess.

it kinda seems to have the smallest prize pool out of the big games, like LoL and dota2


But the tournaments are more frequent, far more frequent.

Also Riot and Valve are the main sponsors for the prize pools of the tournaments.

GSL, MLG, Dreamhack, etc. All of those obtain their own funding via sponsors Blizzard hasn't been directly supporting them.

So the prize pool numbers are a bit deceiving, and the question must be asked of what would those two games' esports scene look like without the direct funding from Riot and Valve.

also moba are team games lol (no pun).

the prize has to be split amongst the team.


Also a very good point.

The famous 1,000,000 dollar DOTA2 tournament worked out to 200,000 per player which is still a lot, but that's not that much more than what some of the higher end SC2 tournaments go for.

isnt 200,000 more than the GSL and OSL prizepools?


Yes, but my point is it only happened once. Valve funded that prize pool hoping the enormous amount of money being offered would give them the publicity they needed to start competing with League of Legends.

That's a very different concept from the SC2 tournaments that are self-sufficient being paid for by third party sponsors as well as the fanbase.

One model has long term viability, the other does not.


Pretty much this. The fact that you see almost 5 million dollars over 500 or so tournaments means there's a lot of tournaments with a goodly amount of prize money going out. If you had that 5 million and only like 10 tournaments, that'd be bad, because in the pro scene if you didn't get money off of one of those tournaments you'd probably be completely out of luck. With so many tournaments, though, it gives a chance for smaller scenes to grow, because you're not going to have MKP, MC et al flying out to Kekderp, Idaho to play in a tournament offering 5k to the winner, but 5k isn't bad for someone trying to get started.
"It's like you were running away from bears, except that the bears have the power to make forcefields." - QxC
Trogdor
Profile Joined August 2009
United States158 Posts
August 13 2012 09:45 GMT
#210
Why is the stream down for me?!?!
I may not have the collectors edition, but my copy of sc2 is signed by Jaedong :D UPDATE: also by MC
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#211
Poll: Recommend Genius vs. Squirtle Game 2?

Yes (7)
 
54%

No (5)
 
38%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Genius vs. Squirtle Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Genius vs. Squirtle Game 3?

No (4)
 
57%

Yes (2)
 
29%

If you have time (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Genius vs. Squirtle Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#212
gg
IM & EG supporter
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
August 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#213
On August 13 2012 18:43 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 18:41 NrGmonk wrote:
Stargate vs stargate, especially from stargates of similar timing, will be fun! First time in a pro-game outside of proleague I think.

Husky casted a LiquidHerovP game where it became Phoenix vs. Phoenix (Even with range upgrade). I don't remember from what the game came from though

What tournament is that from and where's the vod?
Moderator
Thobrik
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1120 Posts
August 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#214
That was a genius game, from Squirtle. Such smart play.
"Philosophy is questions that may never be answered, Religion is answers that may never be questioned."
tylerf
Profile Joined March 2012
739 Posts
August 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#215
Yeah Squirtle!
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#216
Called the 2-0... nice
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4557 Posts
August 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#217
fuck squirtles micro and decision making is so crisp. damn.
hi. big fan.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#218
yay, squirtle, admittedly its pvp that won him the game tho lol
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#219
On August 13 2012 18:47 NrGmonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 18:43 WindWolf wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:41 NrGmonk wrote:
Stargate vs stargate, especially from stargates of similar timing, will be fun! First time in a pro-game outside of proleague I think.

Husky casted a LiquidHerovP game where it became Phoenix vs. Phoenix (Even with range upgrade). I don't remember from what the game came from though

What tournament is that from and where's the vod?

Husky's SC2 youtube channel?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 13 2012 09:48 GMT
#220
On August 13 2012 18:44 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 18:43 Yello wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:41 Yello wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:39 Yello wrote:
On August 13 2012 18:38 Yello wrote:
Game 2: Shakuras Plateau (for the first time in WCS Korea!)
Genius spawns as the red Protoss in the position top right.
Squirtle spawns as the blue Protoss in the position bottom left.


Nice Squirtle Fangirls ^_^

4:00min
Both players going for the normal Gate-Gas-Core
Genius takes his 2nd Gas earlier this time though.


6:00min
Both players are going for Zealot and then Sentry.
Both players go for Stargate on similar timings!

Mirror builds so far, both players with the same unit count as well.


8:00min
First real deviation: Squirtle adds a third Gate while Genius stays on 2. Genius moves out with his first 2 Phoenix and finally both players realize they played mirror build
Squirtle engages with 3 Phoenix against Genius 2 and kills both of them
Genius goes for a Robo and a 3rd Gate now while Squirtle decides to expand.


10:00min
Genius expands now too, Both players have 7 Phoenix now, Squirtle goes for Blink


12:00min
Squirtle adds more Gateways while Genius still builds Phoenix. Genius has almost now Stalkers and Sentries because of investing that much Gas into Phoenix.
It's 11 Phoenix for Genius now against 7 for Squirtle, Genius kept his Phoenix count hidden.

Huge fight at Genius natural! Genius wins the air battle convincingly but Squirtle takes the ground battle. It's Phoenix vs Stalker now. With good focus fire Squirtle snipes one Phoenix after another and takes a huge lead. Genius tries to hold with Stalker warpins and his last few Phoenix but Squirtle is too far ahead now.
Squirtle does the offensive Blink and takes the game and therefore the series with a score of 2-0!
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
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