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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
July 29 2012 14:12 GMT
#1661
On July 29 2012 18:24 Zackeva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 15:40 WindWolf wrote:
On July 29 2012 09:12 Zackeva wrote:
I think double elimination would be pretty fine if the final was just a straight up Bo7. The losing player already is punished by having to face more opponents; there is no need to start off the final series on uneven footing. : / I feel like this is merely a trick to create suspense for the viewers and a situation in which one player has to fight ALL THE ODDS and OVERCOME THE DIFFICULTIES in order to win. Be fair instead and give both players who have deserved their place in the finals the same chances....

Why should everyone except the upper bracket winner be able to drop one series before being eliminated? It's called double-elimination for a reason, that everyone, including the upper bracket winner, is able to drop one series before being eliminated


Like I said, that extra life would be traded for having to play less opponents. The fewer opponents you face, the lesser chance of you dropping out anyways. Every player would still have an extra life, but if it isn't used up it should be erased in the finals in favor of fairness. : )

I still don't see how it's fair that the upper bracket winner cannot lose one series while everyone else, including upper bracket final loser, could.
EZ4ENCE
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
July 29 2012 15:47 GMT
#1662
On July 29 2012 18:24 Zackeva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 15:40 WindWolf wrote:
On July 29 2012 09:12 Zackeva wrote:
I think double elimination would be pretty fine if the final was just a straight up Bo7. The losing player already is punished by having to face more opponents; there is no need to start off the final series on uneven footing. : / I feel like this is merely a trick to create suspense for the viewers and a situation in which one player has to fight ALL THE ODDS and OVERCOME THE DIFFICULTIES in order to win. Be fair instead and give both players who have deserved their place in the finals the same chances....

Why should everyone except the upper bracket winner be able to drop one series before being eliminated? It's called double-elimination for a reason, that everyone, including the upper bracket winner, is able to drop one series before being eliminated


Like I said, that extra life would be traded for having to play less opponents. The fewer opponents you face, the lesser chance of you dropping out anyways. Every player would still have an extra life, but if it isn't used up it should be erased in the finals in favor of fairness. : )


Your logic is entirely backwards, you could make a case that the finals should be Bo7 to provide the best possible spectacle and entertainment for the fans, but it would be at the expense of fairness, not to promote it.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 29 2012 16:33 GMT
#1663
Naniwa still sucks vs Zerg then?
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
July 29 2012 20:15 GMT
#1664
On July 29 2012 23:12 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 18:24 Zackeva wrote:
On July 29 2012 15:40 WindWolf wrote:
On July 29 2012 09:12 Zackeva wrote:
I think double elimination would be pretty fine if the final was just a straight up Bo7. The losing player already is punished by having to face more opponents; there is no need to start off the final series on uneven footing. : / I feel like this is merely a trick to create suspense for the viewers and a situation in which one player has to fight ALL THE ODDS and OVERCOME THE DIFFICULTIES in order to win. Be fair instead and give both players who have deserved their place in the finals the same chances....

Why should everyone except the upper bracket winner be able to drop one series before being eliminated? It's called double-elimination for a reason, that everyone, including the upper bracket winner, is able to drop one series before being eliminated


Like I said, that extra life would be traded for having to play less opponents. The fewer opponents you face, the lesser chance of you dropping out anyways. Every player would still have an extra life, but if it isn't used up it should be erased in the finals in favor of fairness. : )

I still don't see how it's fair that the upper bracket winner cannot lose one series while everyone else, including upper bracket final loser, could.


That person can too, but then he/she has to play more games... it would still reward the player not losing when it's time for the finals. Playing through a lower bracket, facing more opponents and always risking elimination should earn you even footing in the finals imo.
Cogito, ergo toss.
BeaSteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden328 Posts
July 29 2012 20:46 GMT
#1665
Anyone know where to find more information about the European finals? When and where to get tickets?
Also why did some countries get direct seeds into the world finals? Heard that Stephano already is qualified, does that mean he wont contend in Stockholm in September?
Greed is good
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
July 29 2012 21:01 GMT
#1666
On July 30 2012 05:46 BeaSteR wrote:
Anyone know where to find more information about the European finals? When and where to get tickets?
Also why did some countries get direct seeds into the world finals? Heard that Stephano already is qualified, does that mean he wont contend in Stockholm in September?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/6676236
not sure about tickets yet. And yes stephano will be there
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
July 31 2012 08:57 GMT
#1667
On July 30 2012 05:46 BeaSteR wrote:
Anyone know where to find more information about the European finals? When and where to get tickets?
Also why did some countries get direct seeds into the world finals? Heard that Stephano already is qualified, does that mean he wont contend in Stockholm in September?

http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs12/2012/07/30/tickets-to-wcs-europe-finals-now-released/
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 31 2012 10:52 GMT
#1668
On July 30 2012 01:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Naniwa still sucks vs Zerg then?


He doesn't suck but it's his worse matchup i think.
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 31 2012 12:06 GMT
#1669
On July 31 2012 19:52 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 01:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Naniwa still sucks vs Zerg then?


He doesn't suck but it's his worse matchup i think.

apparently he tweeted a few days ago that PvT was?
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