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On July 29 2012 07:22 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 07:20 Type|NarutO wrote:
I dont want to break down a balance discussion but you could see in that game how much better ThorZaIN is. He blew it quiet hard but with a lot better multitasking and control he even made a game out of it. Not really.. I just think sortof wanted to end it fast. He could have obviously waited and capitalized on his 30 scv kills before attacking again, but instead he kept attacking and in the end it worked out well.
Attacking usually is the only option that allows Terran to win in such a game. Sitting back and having the defensive tech advantage and leaving Terran without a timing would be the right choice, even if it worked out for SortOf.
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On July 29 2012 07:20 iAmJeffReY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 07:18 pepe08 wrote:On July 29 2012 07:16 iAmJeffReY wrote:On July 29 2012 07:14 pepe08 wrote:On July 29 2012 07:13 IshinShishi wrote:
Thorzain is quite ahead for now. ???? are we watching the same game? sure its antiga but huh? I just don't get why/how antiga is good for terran. Long flat ground between nat and third for easy creep spread. Easy third to be taken. These busts that I always see (roach ling, roach bane, roach ling bane, ling bane infestor, ling bane etc) are so strong on this map with the giant ramp to wall off. Not to mention, as seen here, 3rd OC style means late tanks or late stim/cs/siege. its good for teran because it is very hard for zerg to get more than 3 bases but in this game it never get to that stage Please explain this, though. Get 3 bases and infestors or mutas gives you solid map control, and lings can cover the map to stop drops on other bases. I never seem to see zerg struggle to stick to 3 base on that map anymore. Still thinking antiga isn't such a great T map, as it was once.
I see Zerg struggle to get a 4th alot on that map. Terran get 4 easy bases, with a good planetary position at the fourth. The middle is important area to control, and terran controls terrain easiest with siege tanks. Zergs get lots of open terrain though. I don't think its very T favored, but its still pretty good for them.
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On July 29 2012 07:22 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 07:20 Type|NarutO wrote:
I dont want to break down a balance discussion but you could see in that game how much better ThorZaIN is. He blew it quiet hard but with a lot better multitasking and control he even made a game out of it. Not really.. I just think sortof wanted to end it fast. He could have obviously waited and capitalized on his 30 scv kills before attacking again, but instead he kept attacking and in the end it worked out well.
On the contrary, I felt like SortOf tried to make sure he wins in the end by extending his lead. I disagree with the initial argument of superior multitasking, diamond terrans can do double-prong drops np.
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Oh nice, the stream died.
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Fuck, should have gone to Stockholm ...
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why is stream sudden so laggy after restart
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I don't think T will hold this.
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On July 29 2012 07:09 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 07:06 Maitolasi wrote:On July 29 2012 07:03 Crushinator wrote:On July 29 2012 07:02 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Holy fuck, adebisi goes everywhere to be an OB. I knew that guy since like season 2, and he kind of fucking blew up in popularity O_O Seems crazy to fly in someone from NA just to do the observing. Surely there are qualified people in Sweden, can't be that difficult to do. "Just to do the observing" I'd say it's pretty damn important to have a good observer since he controls 90% of what the audience sees. My point isn't that good observing isn't important, but rather that good observing isn't that hard to do if that is all you do.
You would be surprised.
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The stream is lagging a lot
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Yeah, stream died it seems  .
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What an insane supply block. He need 4 depots but he only has 60 minerals. Oh Damnnnn
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Sick hold, lesser Terrans would have GG'ed sooner.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Stream worked for me after a small restart stutter. Thorzain holds without much loss.
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Thought i was the only one getting lag. This seems to be a theme in the WCS'. Hard to enjoy Master Jane whilst it's lagging.
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On July 29 2012 07:24 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 07:20 iAmJeffReY wrote:On July 29 2012 07:18 pepe08 wrote:On July 29 2012 07:16 iAmJeffReY wrote:On July 29 2012 07:14 pepe08 wrote:On July 29 2012 07:13 IshinShishi wrote:
Thorzain is quite ahead for now. ???? are we watching the same game? sure its antiga but huh? I just don't get why/how antiga is good for terran. Long flat ground between nat and third for easy creep spread. Easy third to be taken. These busts that I always see (roach ling, roach bane, roach ling bane, ling bane infestor, ling bane etc) are so strong on this map with the giant ramp to wall off. Not to mention, as seen here, 3rd OC style means late tanks or late stim/cs/siege. its good for teran because it is very hard for zerg to get more than 3 bases but in this game it never get to that stage Please explain this, though. Get 3 bases and infestors or mutas gives you solid map control, and lings can cover the map to stop drops on other bases. I never seem to see zerg struggle to stick to 3 base on that map anymore. Still thinking antiga isn't such a great T map, as it was once. I see Zerg struggle to get a 4th alot on that map. Terran get 4 easy bases, with a good planetary position at the fourth. The middle is important area to control, and terran controls terrain easiest with siege tanks. Zergs get lots of open terrain though. I don't think its very T favored, but its still pretty good for them.
...but the main ground has two entrances, easily flanked with nice creep spread, 4ths aren't that easy to hold as terran, as it's so far away from other bases to defend run bys from main, third, and the potential 4th. PFs don't really hold all too well to certain attacks, like anything with ultras, anything with infested terrans, anything with 3/3 crack lings etc.
From my personal experience, if I get a 4th on antiga, I'm way ahead, or about to die to broodlords in the middle raining down on my 4th and getting flanked on all sides.
I'm firm in my belief that antiga is not a terran map. Especially with forced cross spawns and recent 4-6-8 queen builds.
Anywhere I can find map stats from like last ~2 months of overall win rates on antiga shipyard, both international and KR?
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On July 29 2012 07:09 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 07:06 Maitolasi wrote:On July 29 2012 07:03 Crushinator wrote:On July 29 2012 07:02 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Holy fuck, adebisi goes everywhere to be an OB. I knew that guy since like season 2, and he kind of fucking blew up in popularity O_O Seems crazy to fly in someone from NA just to do the observing. Surely there are qualified people in Sweden, can't be that difficult to do. "Just to do the observing" I'd say it's pretty damn important to have a good observer since he controls 90% of what the audience sees. My point isn't that good observing isn't important, but rather that good observing isn't that hard to do if that is all you do.
Good obs is just as important as good casting imo. Bad observing can't be muted and it makes the game unwatchable, and yeah it happens...
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
That was a sick hold
Also, 60fps is amazing
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EPT
