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ZeratuLsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada426 Posts
July 07 2012 18:57 GMT
#2801
Haha Incontrol taking potshots at zerg all weekend:
"Queens now push back stalkers, which is great"
"Now zerg just fly in with their overlords on motorbikes"

The dude is just too damn funny.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
July 07 2012 18:58 GMT
#2802
On July 08 2012 03:56 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:55 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 Whatson wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3

What?
TvT at a high level is absolutely sick, second or third best matchup hands-down.


yeah second best but still TvT is a turtle-fest 2k. I like the turtle games sure. But it's mostly just turtle and defend imo.

Dude go watch MKP vs Taeja, you have no idea. What is this, TvT 2011?

Yeah early game TvT has become so volatile and can be very action packed.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Ogww
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland224 Posts
July 07 2012 18:58 GMT
#2803
Roach to lairtech, pls

User was warned for this post
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 18:58:42
July 07 2012 18:58 GMT
#2804
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3


No.

Because TvT is an interesting match up, and MVP vs Naama is the only one we can possibly see for the rest of the tournament.

We saw all 4 players in the group play TvZ's now, it would be much more interesting to watch a TvT and a ZvZ than it would be to watch another set of TvZ's (MVP/Ret Naama/Golden).

This is all presuming that they broadcast only 2 games of each player on stream like most of the other groups.
kimchikid
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
July 07 2012 18:58 GMT
#2805
On July 08 2012 03:54 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:51 kimchikid wrote:
I guess:
1) Sase will be invited to code S next season due to well played at latest MLG and other tournaments.
2) He has a good chance to do reasonably well, similar to Naniwa.

Clearly code s material however.


Eh, it's debatable. I think he can definitely go toe-to-toe with many code S players. I'd love to see SaSe qualify for code A though and come through that route. I think he has the ability to do that (especially if he is code S material) and it would be cool to see a foreigner battle his way through code A and try to make code S without a seed.


I don't think any other foreigners has a better chance for a seed. Of course Stephano will get one if he wants, I guess he has a standing invitation.

I dont care att all for that qualify through code A talk, it just takes a lot of time and you pretty much need to stay in Korea all of the time. Few foregners can do all that. But I am not interested in that discussion, I believe they will be seeded anyway.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 07 2012 18:58 GMT
#2806
On July 08 2012 03:57 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:56 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 zezamer wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3


TvT cool MU <3


You must say that ZvZ is much better nowadays than TvT! with the Nydus play and fungals.. All the aggression.. the games we saw in TSL4 showed us that!


lol u serious ?? :D



yes i am, the TSL4 games ZvZ was impressive and the casters was absolutely blown away..
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Ounk
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 18:59:12
July 07 2012 18:58 GMT
#2807
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.

They showed every single game except for MC vs. Slivko until now. So they will show this match too.
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
July 07 2012 18:58 GMT
#2808
On July 08 2012 03:56 JayJay_90 wrote:
Ret clearly just can't compete with Naama in a long macro game so he has to rely on an allin!



i lol'd at the irony
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 07 2012 18:58 GMT
#2809
On July 08 2012 03:57 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:56 Whatson wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:55 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 Whatson wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3

What?
TvT at a high level is absolutely sick, second or third best matchup hands-down.


yeah second best but still TvT is a turtle-fest 2k. I like the turtle games sure. But it's mostly just turtle and defend imo.

Dude go watch MKP vs Taeja, you have no idea. What is this, TvT 2011?


I've seen those games but that's 2 complete superior players imo. MKP and TaEja are beasts that can provide good entertainment for the viewers. But the games VortiX played in TSL4 ZvZ was insane you must admit.

No, that's actually every single TvT, both Korean and foreign.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Stormiii
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland239 Posts
July 07 2012 18:59 GMT
#2810
On July 08 2012 03:57 Toadvine wrote:
Naama: All-ins and cheeses most of his games. ragequits after getting roach/bling busted. Karma's a bitch.

Ret: so overrated and get's completetly outplayed by guy who "allins and cheeses most of his games" all ins. hahahaha
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 07 2012 18:59 GMT
#2811
On July 08 2012 03:55 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:52 oogieogie wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:43 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:37 oogieogie wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:35 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:33 ohampatu wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:32 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:31 oogieogie wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:28 Bommes wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:25 Whatson wrote:
In all seriousness though, Golden fucked up and grouped all his BLs and corruptors together.
Probably should have tried an Ultra switch after that first battle, idk if it would work since MVP was also making marauders and tanks still.


He fucked everything up in the late game.

He had barely any Infestors at all which are the most important unit against mass air.

He had like 40-50 more supply worth of workers and a lot less army supply.

He still had a lot of Broodlords against air only.

He didn't use Nydus+Ultras at all, even when MVP had only Vikings.

HE DIDN'T MICRO AT ALL in the final engagement
.

i dont think anyone can micro the slowest unit in the game vs like a 2.8 speed projectile..best i can see is just to have the BL naturally split before it happened.


Next patch: give broodlords stim.



seen idra and a few other zergs micro hydras off creep vs banelings

tis possible, just not with all units, like ht micro is kinda lol


Ye I was just joking. I know it's a stereotype but so many zergs just can't micro, the first "bonjwa" if we get one may just be a good macro zerg with really great micro. Stephano has decent micro I suppose, so does DRG, but no one really sticks out for things like unit retention. If you watch almost any PvZ the zerg throws away dozens of units for nothing---bad rally points, bad positioning, indecision, etc.

Zergs throw away zerglings, and roachs which are like nothing to them. I doubt zergs try to do just lose BL/infestors on purpose. Also infestors are kind of slow also so they get picked off when zergs try to retreat with them.


That's a silly mentality though. Those 15 roaches lost for literally nothing could've been another almost fully saturated base, which is a big thing at the highest level. Or infestor tech. It may seem like nothing but it could still give a good advantage.

I doubt there is any time where zerg try to lose just 15 roachs, but instead a FF just sections some off so they get destroyed or they try to snipe a expo etc.They try to at least do something with them. Also there is no way that zergs dont even try to protect their tech, but maybe like 4 dts or a bunch of zealots just snipe off the greater spire or spawning pool or infestation pit really fast.


You'd be surprised. I remember Stephano just wandering roaches in the middle of the map versus MC, literally doing nothing with them, and he just kept picking them off with phoenix. He wasn't trying to snipe some probes or anything, just was throwing away units. A lot of (at least seemingly) random posturing from zerg often leads to things just getting sniped off with blink and things like that.

sounds like he was trying to keep map control. Also what should a zerg do when just roachs are running away from blink stalkers, and the stalkers just keep picking off the roachs with blink? All you can do is just retreat or have infestors out already to stop it. Stephano could have tried to end the game with the reinforcement roachs with his like 14 min roach max or something..i forgot the time the max is.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
July 07 2012 18:59 GMT
#2812
On July 08 2012 03:56 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:53 zezamer wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3


TvT cool MU <3


You must say that ZvZ is much better nowadays than TvT! with the Nydus play and fungals.. All the aggression.. the games we saw in TSL4 showed us that!

Everytime someone says ZvZ has become so great the next couple of series ends in roach vs roach...
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
July 07 2012 18:59 GMT
#2813
On July 08 2012 03:57 Toadvine wrote:
Naama: All-ins and cheeses most of his games. ragequits after getting roach/bling busted. Karma's a bitch.

Tbh after that game 2 it's kinda understandable that he's dissapointed
I have no quote!
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
July 07 2012 18:59 GMT
#2814
On July 08 2012 03:57 Toadvine wrote:
Naama: All-ins and cheeses most of his games. ragequits after getting roach/bling busted. Karma's a bitch.

He dont need to say gg in game as Ret sits like right next to him, he most likely just said gg to him irl
(V) (;,,;) (V) Woopwoopwoopwoop
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
July 07 2012 18:59 GMT
#2815
On July 08 2012 03:58 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:57 zezamer wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:56 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 zezamer wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3


TvT cool MU <3


You must say that ZvZ is much better nowadays than TvT! with the Nydus play and fungals.. All the aggression.. the games we saw in TSL4 showed us that!


lol u serious ?? :D



yes i am, the TSL4 games ZvZ was impressive and the casters was absolutely blown away..


Don't all ZvZ games go like this:
-pool hatch
-roaches
-infestors
-roach infestor ball vs roach infestor ball
-other guy gg:s

??
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
July 07 2012 18:59 GMT
#2816
indiana jones, the guy with a raccoon on his head lol
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
July 07 2012 18:59 GMT
#2817
SaSe should archon drop ontop of banelings, then pick up and recharge shields.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 07 2012 19:00 GMT
#2818
On July 08 2012 03:57 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:56 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 zezamer wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3


TvT cool MU <3


You must say that ZvZ is much better nowadays than TvT! with the Nydus play and fungals.. All the aggression.. the games we saw in TSL4 showed us that!

..okay you don't know what you're talking about.
If you actually bothered to watch TvT, you would see the aggression.


I've seen plenty of TvT's these couple of weeks yes it's aggressive but i find ZvZ more agressive than TvT. It's my opinion right? And the TSL4 games with all these zergs qualifying showed us insane aggrressive play.
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 07 2012 19:00 GMT
#2819
On July 08 2012 03:59 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:58 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:57 zezamer wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:56 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 zezamer wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3


TvT cool MU <3


You must say that ZvZ is much better nowadays than TvT! with the Nydus play and fungals.. All the aggression.. the games we saw in TSL4 showed us that!


lol u serious ?? :D



yes i am, the TSL4 games ZvZ was impressive and the casters was absolutely blown away..


Don't all ZvZ games go like this:
-pool hatch
-roaches
-infestors
-roach infestor ball vs roach infestor ball
-other guy gg:s

??


you missed the 6mutas one guy did XD
Zest fanboy.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 07 2012 19:00 GMT
#2820
On July 08 2012 03:59 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:58 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:57 zezamer wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:56 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 zezamer wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3


TvT cool MU <3


You must say that ZvZ is much better nowadays than TvT! with the Nydus play and fungals.. All the aggression.. the games we saw in TSL4 showed us that!


lol u serious ?? :D



yes i am, the TSL4 games ZvZ was impressive and the casters was absolutely blown away..


Don't all ZvZ games go like this:
-pool hatch
-roaches
-infestors
-roach infestor ball vs roach infestor ball
-other guy gg:s

??

lol that's pretty much it...
sometimes a guy like Freaky will go pure infestor, and maybe theres a muta tech switch, but in the end whoever wins the roach-infestor battle wins.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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