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Iamyournoob
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany595 Posts
July 07 2012 18:51 GMT
#2761
Stream keeps dying here... Anybody else?
kimchikid
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
July 07 2012 18:51 GMT
#2762
I guess:
1) Sase will be invited to code S next season due to well played at latest MLG and other tournaments.
2) He has a good chance to do reasonably well, similar to Naniwa.

Clearly code s material however.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
July 07 2012 18:51 GMT
#2763
On July 08 2012 03:50 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:49 Ammoth wrote:
Sase is making Sweden proud!

GLSnute .

I don't understand?
I have no quote!
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
July 07 2012 18:52 GMT
#2764
On July 08 2012 03:50 Roynalf wrote:
ffs show the game not the casters

Chill guys
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
July 07 2012 18:52 GMT
#2765
On July 08 2012 03:51 najreteip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:50 Fyzar wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:49 Ammoth wrote:
Sase is making Sweden proud!

GLSnute .

I don't understand?


He just missclicked what post he wants to quote :D
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
July 07 2012 18:52 GMT
#2766
On July 08 2012 03:51 Iamyournoob wrote:
Stream keeps dying here... Anybody else?

Nope
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
July 07 2012 18:52 GMT
#2767
Hasu, Idra and Incontrol is such a good combination of players that actually like to talk and discuss strategy nonstop, really why I love HSC so much.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 07 2012 18:52 GMT
#2768
On July 08 2012 03:52 CruiseR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:51 najreteip wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:50 Fyzar wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:49 Ammoth wrote:
Sase is making Sweden proud!

GLSnute .

I don't understand?


He just missclicked what post he wants to quote :D

Zzz, sorry about that ^^.
It appears I have been chosen.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 07 2012 18:52 GMT
#2769
On July 08 2012 03:43 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:37 oogieogie wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:35 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:33 ohampatu wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:32 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:31 oogieogie wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:28 Bommes wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:25 Whatson wrote:
In all seriousness though, Golden fucked up and grouped all his BLs and corruptors together.
Probably should have tried an Ultra switch after that first battle, idk if it would work since MVP was also making marauders and tanks still.


He fucked everything up in the late game.

He had barely any Infestors at all which are the most important unit against mass air.

He had like 40-50 more supply worth of workers and a lot less army supply.

He still had a lot of Broodlords against air only.

He didn't use Nydus+Ultras at all, even when MVP had only Vikings.

HE DIDN'T MICRO AT ALL in the final engagement
.

i dont think anyone can micro the slowest unit in the game vs like a 2.8 speed projectile..best i can see is just to have the BL naturally split before it happened.


Next patch: give broodlords stim.



seen idra and a few other zergs micro hydras off creep vs banelings

tis possible, just not with all units, like ht micro is kinda lol


Ye I was just joking. I know it's a stereotype but so many zergs just can't micro, the first "bonjwa" if we get one may just be a good macro zerg with really great micro. Stephano has decent micro I suppose, so does DRG, but no one really sticks out for things like unit retention. If you watch almost any PvZ the zerg throws away dozens of units for nothing---bad rally points, bad positioning, indecision, etc.

Zergs throw away zerglings, and roachs which are like nothing to them. I doubt zergs try to do just lose BL/infestors on purpose. Also infestors are kind of slow also so they get picked off when zergs try to retreat with them.


That's a silly mentality though. Those 15 roaches lost for literally nothing could've been another almost fully saturated base, which is a big thing at the highest level. Or infestor tech. It may seem like nothing but it could still give a good advantage.

I doubt there is any time where zerg try to lose just 15 roachs, but instead a FF just sections some off so they get destroyed or they try to snipe a expo etc.They try to at least do something with them. Also there is no way that zergs dont even try to protect their tech, but maybe like 4 dts or a bunch of zealots just snipe off the greater spire or spawning pool or infestation pit really fast.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 07 2012 18:53 GMT
#2770
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
July 07 2012 18:53 GMT
#2771
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3


TvT cool MU <3
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 07 2012 18:53 GMT
#2772
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3


best mirror among numerous polls, and it'll be the only one
Zest fanboy.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 18:54:32
July 07 2012 18:53 GMT
#2773
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3

What?
TvT at a high level is absolutely sick, second or third best matchup hands-down.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
July 07 2012 18:54 GMT
#2774
On July 08 2012 03:52 CruiseR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:51 najreteip wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:50 Fyzar wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:49 Ammoth wrote:
Sase is making Sweden proud!

GLSnute .

I don't understand?


He just missclicked what post he wants to quote :D

I understand now :p
thank you
I have no quote!
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
July 07 2012 18:54 GMT
#2775
On July 08 2012 03:53 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3


TvT cool MU <3


any terran matchups would be nice, terrans are once again a rarity in a tournament
savior did nothing wrong
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 07 2012 18:54 GMT
#2776
On July 08 2012 03:51 kimchikid wrote:
I guess:
1) Sase will be invited to code S next season due to well played at latest MLG and other tournaments.
2) He has a good chance to do reasonably well, similar to Naniwa.

Clearly code s material however.


Eh, it's debatable. I think he can definitely go toe-to-toe with many code S players. I'd love to see SaSe qualify for code A though and come through that route. I think he has the ability to do that (especially if he is code S material) and it would be cool to see a foreigner battle his way through code A and try to make code S without a seed.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
July 07 2012 18:55 GMT
#2777
On July 08 2012 03:52 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:43 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:37 oogieogie wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:35 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:33 ohampatu wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:32 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:31 oogieogie wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:28 Bommes wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:25 Whatson wrote:
In all seriousness though, Golden fucked up and grouped all his BLs and corruptors together.
Probably should have tried an Ultra switch after that first battle, idk if it would work since MVP was also making marauders and tanks still.


He fucked everything up in the late game.

He had barely any Infestors at all which are the most important unit against mass air.

He had like 40-50 more supply worth of workers and a lot less army supply.

He still had a lot of Broodlords against air only.

He didn't use Nydus+Ultras at all, even when MVP had only Vikings.

HE DIDN'T MICRO AT ALL in the final engagement
.

i dont think anyone can micro the slowest unit in the game vs like a 2.8 speed projectile..best i can see is just to have the BL naturally split before it happened.


Next patch: give broodlords stim.



seen idra and a few other zergs micro hydras off creep vs banelings

tis possible, just not with all units, like ht micro is kinda lol


Ye I was just joking. I know it's a stereotype but so many zergs just can't micro, the first "bonjwa" if we get one may just be a good macro zerg with really great micro. Stephano has decent micro I suppose, so does DRG, but no one really sticks out for things like unit retention. If you watch almost any PvZ the zerg throws away dozens of units for nothing---bad rally points, bad positioning, indecision, etc.

Zergs throw away zerglings, and roachs which are like nothing to them. I doubt zergs try to do just lose BL/infestors on purpose. Also infestors are kind of slow also so they get picked off when zergs try to retreat with them.


That's a silly mentality though. Those 15 roaches lost for literally nothing could've been another almost fully saturated base, which is a big thing at the highest level. Or infestor tech. It may seem like nothing but it could still give a good advantage.

I doubt there is any time where zerg try to lose just 15 roachs, but instead a FF just sections some off so they get destroyed or they try to snipe a expo etc.They try to at least do something with them. Also there is no way that zergs dont even try to protect their tech, but maybe like 4 dts or a bunch of zealots just snipe off the greater spire or spawning pool or infestation pit really fast.


You'd be surprised. I remember Stephano just wandering roaches in the middle of the map versus MC, literally doing nothing with them, and he just kept picking them off with phoenix. He wasn't trying to snipe some probes or anything, just was throwing away units. A lot of (at least seemingly) random posturing from zerg often leads to things just getting sniped off with blink and things like that.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 07 2012 18:55 GMT
#2778
On July 08 2012 03:53 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:53 SilSol wrote:
On July 08 2012 03:51 Asha` wrote:
I hope so much they show Naama vs MVP so we can see at least one TvT this weekend, rather than have that be the game that gets played off stream.


aww just because ur a terran player yeh? ;-) <3


best mirror among numerous polls, and it'll be the only one


Best mirror right now is def ZvZ imo! PvP is just ridicoulus. ZvZ with the nydus play and all these fungals is quite nice to see. Especially watching TSL4 ... (tournament play)
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
July 07 2012 18:55 GMT
#2779
On July 08 2012 03:54 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 03:51 kimchikid wrote:
I guess:
1) Sase will be invited to code S next season due to well played at latest MLG and other tournaments.
2) He has a good chance to do reasonably well, similar to Naniwa.

Clearly code s material however.


Eh, it's debatable. I think he can definitely go toe-to-toe with many code S players. I'd love to see SaSe qualify for code A though and come through that route. I think he has the ability to do that (especially if he is code S material) and it would be cool to see a foreigner battle his way through code A and try to make code S without a seed.


i think sase is better then naniwa would love to see him in code s
savior did nothing wrong
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
July 07 2012 18:55 GMT
#2780
Naama is SOOOO dead
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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