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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
July 04 2012 10:26 GMT
#1161
keen taking a gigantic lead, looks like 2:0 for byun
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 10:27:48
July 04 2012 10:26 GMT
#1162
What are you people even arguing about? They are both right in certain instances... You cant fit a single "rule" like that to every situation in an RTS game..

Obviously pressuring to buy an opportunity to safely expand is beneficial. Just the same, obviously losing your army while trying to buy an opportunity to safely expand is detrimental. It's all about execution and the specific situations.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
July 04 2012 10:26 GMT
#1163
Banshee wars SO FUNNY xD
Surely Keen will win this one.....
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 04 2012 10:26 GMT
#1164
On July 04 2012 19:24 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 19:23 SharkStarcraft wrote:
What if i told you that sc2 is not about rules that always count?
If you produce mostly tanks and you got no map vision you obviously do not move out while expanding....

What if I told you that pvp is about luck ?


But Oz told me it's all about skill!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 04 2012 10:26 GMT
#1165
These 1 hp bashees... It is GSL tradition.
I had a good night of sleep.
Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
July 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#1166
Byun is dead.
BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
July 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#1167
Keen with a huge lead again. I won't count out Byun again though..
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#1168
On July 04 2012 19:25 Toadvine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 19:19 Fragile51 wrote:
On July 04 2012 19:17 Yaki wrote:
On July 04 2012 19:17 Havik_ wrote:
On July 04 2012 19:14 Newbistic wrote:
Wait what? Day9 always says attack and expand behind the attack lol.





Day9 says one thing, Tasteless says the opposite...


MY MIND IS FUCKED.

To be fair they both don't know the game very well. day9 used to


That advice day9 gave was back in the time when people werent good at spending their money yet. In higher levels expanding while attacking is dumb. In lower levels where macro is not even close to decent yet it doesn't really hurt you that much.


Meh, I always feel like people who say things like these don't really play the game much, and pay way too much attention to random stuff casters say to fill up air time. You expand and attack based on you and your opponent's builds and timings. In some situations, for instance, it's perfectly fine to attack a 1 base player while expanding in PvP. Unless you're using "attack" as a synonym of "all-in", that rule is simply not true in general.


When i mean attack i mean commiting to some sort of timing in order to do damage, not pressuring the opponent to buy time.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
July 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#1169
On July 04 2012 19:26 Tsubbi wrote:
keen taking a gigantic lead, looks like 2:0 for byun

haha you are so good
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#1170
I'm really hoping Byun takes this game. I really don't want an hour long TvT series.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
July 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#1171
On July 04 2012 19:27 Walitgon wrote:
Byun is dead.

Watch him resurrect himself with sick multitask
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
July 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#1172
On July 04 2012 19:23 Akhee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 19:21 Waxangel wrote:
What if I told you that Starcraft II is more complex than convenient axioms?


you sir

closed the topic

Indeed. Day9 isnt necessarily wrong, but taking his suggestions as some absolute truth of what you should do is to way oversimplify things. And yes, he says a lot of wrong things too, people trust him way too blindly. Theres far more knowledgable casters out there, not to mention players.
Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
July 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#1173
On July 04 2012 19:27 Walitgon wrote:
Byun is dead.


Had I not seen game 1, I'd agree with this statement right now, but...
"It's like you were running away from bears, except that the bears have the power to make forcefields." - QxC
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
July 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#1174
Keen ahead again early game. Let's see if Byun can rise from byund the grave a second time.
Logic is Overrated
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
July 04 2012 10:28 GMT
#1175
so dead
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 04 2012 10:28 GMT
#1176
On July 04 2012 19:26 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 19:24 Yaki wrote:
On July 04 2012 19:23 SharkStarcraft wrote:
What if i told you that sc2 is not about rules that always count?
If you produce mostly tanks and you got no map vision you obviously do not move out while expanding....

What if I told you that pvp is about luck ?


But Oz told me it's all about skill!


He's not completely wrong. It is super skill based unless you get a build order loss.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 04 2012 10:28 GMT
#1177
On July 04 2012 19:23 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 19:22 Drazerk wrote:
Game two on metropolis

In the top right is Byun

In the bottom right is Keen

3:40

Factories for both players along with their second gasses

5:00

Starports done for both players but Byun has got out an early hellion and scouts the reactor on Keen's barracks

Both players making banshees but Byun is the only one getting cloak

Keen gets into the main of Byun and scouts everything.


7:10

Raven out for Keen but both banshees are doing huge damage

Byun loses his banshee to a marine while Keen loses his to a viking


10:00

Keen has two vikings and a raven patrolling his base while pushing with marines and three tanks
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
July 04 2012 10:28 GMT
#1178
Come on, Keen, you got this!
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
July 04 2012 10:28 GMT
#1179
On July 04 2012 19:26 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 19:24 Yaki wrote:
On July 04 2012 19:23 SharkStarcraft wrote:
What if i told you that sc2 is not about rules that always count?
If you produce mostly tanks and you got no map vision you obviously do not move out while expanding....

What if I told you that pvp is about luck ?


But Oz told me it's all about skill!

What if I told you that after Oz said that he started going for nexus first and having a huge losing streak in pvp ?
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
July 04 2012 10:28 GMT
#1180
On July 04 2012 19:27 Walitgon wrote:
Byun is dead.


You obviously didnt watch that last game
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