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Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
August 12 2012 01:59 GMT
#8201
On August 12 2012 10:58 Moka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
pvp anything can happen.

Feels like Russian Roulette. Either Liquid dies or IM is down to their last man. TENSE


Russian Roulette with 5 bullets/6

So it is like chatroulette with bullets instead of dicks?
SC2, rip in pepperinos
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
August 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#8202
What is this map ?
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
August 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#8203
On August 12 2012 10:58 SeeKeR wrote:
Poll: If Seed falls, IM will send

Mvp shows up out of nowhere (30)
 
60%

NesTea (12)
 
24%

YoDa (6)
 
12%

Happy (2)
 
4%

50 total votes

Your vote: If Seed falls, IM will send

(Vote): YoDa
(Vote): NesTea
(Vote): Happy
(Vote): Mvp shows up out of nowhere



Fenix. I believe in foreign power :D
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
August 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#8204
On August 12 2012 10:53 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:51 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:49 Pandain wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:49 Fionn wrote:
Those ghosts.

Those ghosts, man.

Also Seed shows why he is GSL champion. Time for Hero.


I don't think Hero is going out, not with Hero being so weak PvP and Seed so strong in it.

I think TLO or haypro, as funny as that sounds.


You better send HerO in a bit weaker and coinflippy match up... but sending out TLO or HayprO against Code-S Champion seed with insane PvZ, you gotta be kidding us.

It would be a great stomp, and way to show how dependent TL is on their koreans.



LOL you've been on about this for over how many thread pages?
with a negative attitude like yours, betting on underdogs is what makes it that much more exciting for me.

remember that post earlier that exposed so many others posters who 'knew' that taeja was dead, dead dead (against yonghwa?
then how taeja miraculous pulled it off?

yeah, that moment was sweet too.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
August 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#8205
On August 12 2012 10:58 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:57 below66 wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:54 Scrandom wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:53 below66 wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:51 blacksheepwall wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:50 Looms wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:50 below66 wrote:
Why does TL have to win 2 BO9's and IM only one BO9?


Loser's bracket

To elaborate slightly, it's because Liquid was the loser's bracket winner in a Double Elimination tournament, and IM hasn't lost a match yet, whereas, Liquid had, therefore, Liquid needed to win 1 Bo9 to reset it for the Grand Finals. Stupid format, imho.



Ummm... yes, that's a pretty dumb format.


Why is that dumb? Liquid has already lost a series, IM hadn't


Past series should have no relevance in the next upcoming series or the finals. In major sports, all that happens is you get 1 extra home court game or something that really doesn't make much of a difference, what if every sport had 2 grand finals because one team had a near undefeated run and the other didn't? it wouldnt be accepted.

Most sports don't have a double elimination bracket. Your analogy fails. This has been the standard in essentially every double elim. tournament ever. It's either this or extended series. Guess which one is better.


Ah I see.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 02:01:11
August 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#8206
PvP, oh baby. Doesn't quite all come down to this, but it's match point. Come on Hero, get the two-in-a-row!! :D
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
BigBossX
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom357 Posts
August 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#8207
On August 12 2012 10:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:55 BigBossX wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:50 oogieogie wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:50 Plansix wrote:
IM coach: I knew if Teaja played enough games he would get tired. My plans have worked.

more like eventually protoss will kill him at end game.


Taeja was ahead the entire late game. If he had forced a direct engagement he would have roflstomped Seed.

Taeja threw it away by getting all his units trapped in Seed's base, not because "Protoss OP late game".


How is being on 1 mining base vs 2/3 being ahead? In what fucking universe ...


Taeja was constantly up 20-30 supply and had a bank lol


A bank that would run out in 1 production cycle, yeah fucking fantastic. And being up on supply a little bit with a much weaker army, vs tosses mass colossi archon ht and zealot, yeah also fucking fantastic lol .... but you still don't address how 1 base > 3 base .... lol ....
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#8208
Does anyone know if ANYONE has ever actually won a finals from the loser bracket in this kind of tournament?

I mean ever, any esport game, shit even real sports. Is it even possible to beat the person who probably beat you earlier...twice in a row?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 02:00:51
August 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#8209
Suddenly, Teamliquid 4-3.

Edit: ninja edited!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
August 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#8210
On August 12 2012 11:00 SpiZe wrote:
What is this map ?


Sanshorn Mists. I believe its an IPL map
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
August 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#8211
On August 12 2012 10:57 below66 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:54 Scrandom wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:53 below66 wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:51 blacksheepwall wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:50 Looms wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:50 below66 wrote:
Why does TL have to win 2 BO9's and IM only one BO9?


Loser's bracket

To elaborate slightly, it's because Liquid was the loser's bracket winner in a Double Elimination tournament, and IM hasn't lost a match yet, whereas, Liquid had, therefore, Liquid needed to win 1 Bo9 to reset it for the Grand Finals. Stupid format, imho.



Ummm... yes, that's a pretty dumb format.


Why is that dumb? Liquid has already lost a series, IM hadn't


Past series should have no relevance in the next upcoming series or the finals. In major sports, all that happens is you get 1 extra home court game or something that really doesn't make much of a difference, what if every sport had 2 grand finals because one team had a near undefeated run and the other didn't? it wouldnt be accepted.

Edit: I might be understanding it wrong.


Lol, I would bet everything I have you would not be making this post if the team roles were reversed.
norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
August 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#8212
Seed has this. I hope with all my heart that hero can win cause I love the guy, but seed is super strong.
kekeke
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
August 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#8213
On August 12 2012 10:55 AgentChaos wrote:
lol you guys are like 'omg taeja threw it' but in reality seed played that game like a champion

There is a reason that Seed is the current GSL champion and TaeJa is not :D.
Even though he lost in the first bo9, it's the 2nd one that really counts.
WriterMaru
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
August 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#8214
On August 12 2012 10:53 JWD wrote:
very cool to see DT used more by P. Seed showed a bit of how powerful they can be here...maybe we'll see them more in GSL!

somewhere, Artosis is crying

Squirtle also uses them in lategame PvT in the exact same way Seed did. They are extremely powerful, and Terrans don't seem to have learned how to react properly as of now.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#8215
Song Hyeon Deok gogo!
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Torra
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway469 Posts
August 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#8216
On August 12 2012 10:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:55 BigBossX wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:50 oogieogie wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:50 Plansix wrote:
IM coach: I knew if Teaja played enough games he would get tired. My plans have worked.

more like eventually protoss will kill him at end game.


Taeja was ahead the entire late game. If he had forced a direct engagement he would have roflstomped Seed.

Taeja threw it away by getting all his units trapped in Seed's base, not because "Protoss OP late game".


How is being on 1 mining base vs 2/3 being ahead? In what fucking universe ...


Taeja was constantly up 20-30 supply and had a bank lol

Ye, I feel like he shoulda just forced an engagement much earlier, it was maxed vs 150 supply at one point.
Lozos
Profile Joined February 2012
United States36 Posts
August 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#8217
Doa is driving me fucking nuts with his "Who are they gonna send out next?" and "Hero isn't know for his good PvP, but here's why it was a good choice to send Hero out." Uh, who else are they going to send out? Nony? No, just shut up you idiot.

User was warned for this post
Keith > Piglet
Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
August 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#8218
awesome job taeja =] gogogogogo hero oneeeeeeee time
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#8219
On August 12 2012 11:00 below66 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:58 Shiori wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:57 below66 wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:54 Scrandom wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:53 below66 wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:51 blacksheepwall wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:50 Looms wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:50 below66 wrote:
Why does TL have to win 2 BO9's and IM only one BO9?


Loser's bracket

To elaborate slightly, it's because Liquid was the loser's bracket winner in a Double Elimination tournament, and IM hasn't lost a match yet, whereas, Liquid had, therefore, Liquid needed to win 1 Bo9 to reset it for the Grand Finals. Stupid format, imho.



Ummm... yes, that's a pretty dumb format.


Why is that dumb? Liquid has already lost a series, IM hadn't


Past series should have no relevance in the next upcoming series or the finals. In major sports, all that happens is you get 1 extra home court game or something that really doesn't make much of a difference, what if every sport had 2 grand finals because one team had a near undefeated run and the other didn't? it wouldnt be accepted.

Most sports don't have a double elimination bracket. Your analogy fails. This has been the standard in essentially every double elim. tournament ever. It's either this or extended series. Guess which one is better.


Ah I see.
Worth pointing out that the only double elim tournament that I know of that didn't have two bo5s (or some kind of advantage for the WB player) was the MSL in BW.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 02:01:57
August 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#8220
On August 12 2012 11:00 Herry wrote:
Does anyone know if ANYONE has ever actually won a finals from the loser bracket in this kind of tournament?

I mean ever, any esport game, shit even real sports. Is it even possible to beat the person who probably beat you earlier...twice in a row?


Leenock did it at MLG.
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