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wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 23:37:16
August 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#6541
Zerg are lazy. Banking on fungals to hold in place armies while bl do the work. Can't do that if you over extend and keep spawning infested terrans, you won't build up the energy.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
August 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#6542
what the fuck just happened -.-
<3 Kim Taeyeon
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
August 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#6543
Sleeping guy in the background... xD
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#6544
In defeat no player looks worse than ret.
Glorious SEA doto
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
August 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#6545
unleash the beast
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#6546
3-1 IM....getting close there.

Oh snap, taeja out. Perfect scenario for me would be if Taeja loses and hero sweeps IM from there, but I have a feeling Taeja's going to pwn. Hope IM has something prepared.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#6547
On August 12 2012 08:34 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:31 Herry wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:28 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:25 oogieogie wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:21 Sent. wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:16 Herry wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:14 Sent. wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are negative about vortex in pvz. It would be stupid if every single match up looked like tvz. I'm not saying vortex is the most intresting thing in starcraft but it's clearly not boring, at least not for me. Just think about kiwikaki vs stephano game, I can't be the only one who's enjoying watching late game pvz.

It was interesting when it was rare and a kind of weird/creative play. When it became standard lategame it just got really boring to watch, at least for me.


yeah literally every late game pvz is exactly the same now. and to add to the lameness its down to one cast on one unit that decides a 25minute+ game


What about stargate transitions and prism harass? Also vortex decides the game only if Zerg makes terrible mistake of not splitting his brood lords.

zerg splitting brood lords happens as often as DT expand. I mean cmon when you try to seige a base you have to like have muta spread vs a thor, and even then a vortex can still hit a good amount of them or all of them depending on how many you have.

Zergs split their BL a lot now days. They're only really clumped when the Zerg is caught off guard or is being complacent because Brood Lord armies normally win any ways with minimal micro.


the problem is it shouldnt even come down to that, but zergs are forced to go broodlord because ultras are so shit vs protoss, and there is no other end game tech, and that is why zergs always do the same thing cant really switch...maybe very rarely but tier 1 and 2 units own ultras.

Ultras aren't shit, they're just harder to use. Symbol, TeamLiquid's bonjwa, used Ultralisks a lot against Protoss.


Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:32 oogieogie wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:28 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:25 oogieogie wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:21 Sent. wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:16 Herry wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:14 Sent. wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are negative about vortex in pvz. It would be stupid if every single match up looked like tvz. I'm not saying vortex is the most intresting thing in starcraft but it's clearly not boring, at least not for me. Just think about kiwikaki vs stephano game, I can't be the only one who's enjoying watching late game pvz.

It was interesting when it was rare and a kind of weird/creative play. When it became standard lategame it just got really boring to watch, at least for me.


yeah literally every late game pvz is exactly the same now. and to add to the lameness its down to one cast on one unit that decides a 25minute+ game


What about stargate transitions and prism harass? Also vortex decides the game only if Zerg makes terrible mistake of not splitting his brood lords.

zerg splitting brood lords happens as often as DT expand. I mean cmon when you try to seige a base you have to like have muta spread vs a thor, and even then a vortex can still hit a good amount of them or all of them depending on how many you have.

Zergs split their BL a lot now days. They're only really clumped when the Zerg is caught off guard or is being complacent because Brood Lord armies normally win any ways with minimal micro.

or the bls start atking, and so they just natually clump. How many times have you seen a protoss get a whifted vortex vs money vortex? Its pretty easy to get either the BLs or the infestors from the vortex.

Whiffed vortex/dead Mothership happens way more often than GG Vortexes. With Brood Lord's 9.5 range and because they're slow they don't clump when attacking if you've already spread them out.


Ultras are insanely situational and if not used in a perfect environment they are absolutely awful.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9106 Posts
August 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#6548
On August 12 2012 08:36 Moka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:34 Monochromatic wrote:
Full Foreigner.

Full North American


No.... this just doesn't make sense.
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
August 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#6549
Well, at least Idra can die happy, knowing there is someone who can throw a ZvP harder than him. Jesus, that was awful.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#6550
Wow ret, wow.

Seed looked so damn akqward then, staring at himself on screen and waiting for it to leave, so obvious xD
Useless wet fish.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
August 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#6551
On August 12 2012 08:34 FabledIntegral wrote:
Both times Ret lost his BLs it should have been VERY clear beforehand that it was a TERRIBLE idea.

It was clear to me as a terran so... yer... I mean it might've been a good idea if he'd have gone above the cliff over the 3rd? I mean I think First would then just counter attack, but going over there was just a suicide...
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
August 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#6552
On August 12 2012 08:36 ComusLoM wrote:
Sleeping guy in the background... xD


i cant help but just laugh cause the way he was sleeping was like MVP's boss face
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
Niflheim
Profile Joined February 2012
United States313 Posts
August 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#6553
wow ret... such a big choke
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
August 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#6554
RET. OMG...I thought he had it, and then makes a newbie mistake of not protecting his BLs...and then a-moving them into a bunch of stalkers.. sigh
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
August 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#6555
First should just 4Gates Taeja for the victory.
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
August 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#6556
On August 12 2012 08:36 BlazeFury01 wrote:
It is time for Ret to retire.


Are you kidding me? It is time for ret to practice.

He is so good in every one of his games, but he chokes and loses.

He could be so good if he stopped choking.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#6557
Haha dat sponsor plug by EG
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#6558
On August 12 2012 08:36 polpot wrote:
unleash the beast

Do the EG guys pay you to advertise Monster?
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
August 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#6559
Where exactly did all of Rets money go? Why didn't he have any support below his broods? Some roaches? Hydras? A ton of infestors spamming ITs?

Watching the TL Zergs makes me weep.....
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
August 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#6560
Ret just went full foreigner. Ugh.
I love crazymoving
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