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On June 19 2012 11:34 Battousai13 wrote:
As long as we get MarineKing tonight, and not GreedKingPrime, he'll advance out of the groups.
I don't think Terran is in a state where they can win vs a good zerg while playing a style that is both safe to allin play and viable in a long game, no matter how good the terran is. A lot of MKP's TvZ success (and other people who win in TvZ lately) is based upon taking risks and getting away with it.
This isn't meant to be a balance complaint, that's just how I see it right now! 
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Cheering for Symbol and Parting to advance. Sorry MKP 
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On June 19 2012 12:33 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 11:34 Battousai13 wrote:
As long as we get MarineKing tonight, and not GreedKingPrime, he'll advance out of the groups. I don't think Terran is in a state where they can win vs a good zerg while playing a style that is both safe to allin play and viable in a long game, no matter how good the terran is. A lot of MKP's TvZ success (and other people who win in TvZ lately) is based upon taking risks and getting away with it. This isn't meant to be a balance complaint, that's just how I see it right now!
same goes for pvt since protoss adapted to drops plus the upgrade heavy charge zealot style is (was?) getting popular
no rant, but i feel like terran is currently the worst race to play out a completely regular macro game in either tvz and tvp which is somehow sad imho :-(
its not worse by a huge margin, but it simply feels like you are a little bit behind when on equal terms in a very long game - ofc im not saying there is no way to win - there are still plenty timings/cheeses/ultragreedy builds around; yet again not all of those satisfying viewers and pro's i guess
ontopic: mkp + parting, i think partings pvz will surprise!
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On June 19 2012 12:33 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 11:34 Battousai13 wrote:
As long as we get MarineKing tonight, and not GreedKingPrime, he'll advance out of the groups. I don't think Terran is in a state where they can win vs a good zerg while playing a style that is both safe to allin play and viable in a long game, no matter how good the terran is. A lot of MKP's TvZ success (and other people who win in TvZ lately) is based upon taking risks and getting away with it. This isn't meant to be a balance complaint, that's just how I see it right now!
No I think you're right. MKP usually wins when he goes into epic greed mode. at the same time it makes him extremely susceptible to cheese i.e. dying to roach rush from bly, died twice to 6 pools from byul, etc... However, if anyone gets away with ridiculous amount of greed it's usually him so I'm hoping he's able to pull it off. If that doesn't work maybe the zerg wont kill any of his medivacs like in some games and he'll just end up with pure marines and 20 medivacs ^^
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Both Zerg players take this.
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On June 19 2012 06:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
We're finally to the interesting groups :D
Despite Symbol's disappointing showing at Anaheim, I think he'll come first. He just seems like an excellent preparation player.
MKP will probably advance with Symbol in 2nd place. Not much to say.
Parting will probably go 4th. His PvZ isn't especially bad, but he's not that great either, Symbol should definitely beat him and Yugioh I'd favor as well. While his bread and butter, PvT, will be against MKP who usually beats him (although he failed to in the gsl last season..).
Yugioh, I'm very intrigued to see. I always found him to be pretty lame, but last time I saw him he played excellent against MKP. Since there hasn't been much outside of his brief run to code S, it's hard to know where he stands. Was he just riding the momentum of the patch, or has he finally risen to the occasion? I hope so, it would be sweet if Yugioh suddenly became awesome, think of all the hilariously lame Yugioh jokes to be made by Tastosis :D
Expect:
Symbol 2-0 Parting
MKP 2-0 Yugioh
MKP 1-2 Symbol
Yugioh 2-0 Parting
Yugioh 1-2 MKP
Hope:
Yugioh screams "YUGIOOOOOOOHHHHH" and then like, grows 7 inches taller and his voice gets deep and then he proceeds to destroy the group 4-0. Also, MMA becomes Joey Wheeler :p
Parting 2-0'ed twice !? Never gonna happen imo.
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Symbol and MKP or Parting. I've chosen Symbol and Parting but well, MKP is MKP so dunno.
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On June 19 2012 14:53 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 06:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
We're finally to the interesting groups :D
Despite Symbol's disappointing showing at Anaheim, I think he'll come first. He just seems like an excellent preparation player.
MKP will probably advance with Symbol in 2nd place. Not much to say.
Parting will probably go 4th. His PvZ isn't especially bad, but he's not that great either, Symbol should definitely beat him and Yugioh I'd favor as well. While his bread and butter, PvT, will be against MKP who usually beats him (although he failed to in the gsl last season..).
Yugioh, I'm very intrigued to see. I always found him to be pretty lame, but last time I saw him he played excellent against MKP. Since there hasn't been much outside of his brief run to code S, it's hard to know where he stands. Was he just riding the momentum of the patch, or has he finally risen to the occasion? I hope so, it would be sweet if Yugioh suddenly became awesome, think of all the hilariously lame Yugioh jokes to be made by Tastosis :D
Expect:
Symbol 2-0 Parting
MKP 2-0 Yugioh
MKP 1-2 Symbol
Yugioh 2-0 Parting
Yugioh 1-2 MKP
Hope:
Yugioh screams "YUGIOOOOOOOHHHHH" and then like, grows 7 inches taller and his voice gets deep and then he proceeds to destroy the group 4-0. Also, MMA becomes Joey Wheeler :p Parting 2-0'ed twice !? Never gonna happen imo.
Have you seen Parting as of late? I think it's very very probable tbh. Parting is not in the shape he was the last couple of seasons.
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I don't care what anyone says I am rooting for YugiOh. Let's go Code A King!
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I'm thinking MKP is surely going to advance unless his TvZ is really that hindered by the new metagame. And then I also think a Zerg will advance, sorry Parting, but I don't think his PvZ is strong enough to get him out of this group.
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Let's go Symbol! And MKP too.
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On June 19 2012 15:03 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 14:53 samurai80 wrote:On June 19 2012 06:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
We're finally to the interesting groups :D
Despite Symbol's disappointing showing at Anaheim, I think he'll come first. He just seems like an excellent preparation player.
MKP will probably advance with Symbol in 2nd place. Not much to say.
Parting will probably go 4th. His PvZ isn't especially bad, but he's not that great either, Symbol should definitely beat him and Yugioh I'd favor as well. While his bread and butter, PvT, will be against MKP who usually beats him (although he failed to in the gsl last season..).
Yugioh, I'm very intrigued to see. I always found him to be pretty lame, but last time I saw him he played excellent against MKP. Since there hasn't been much outside of his brief run to code S, it's hard to know where he stands. Was he just riding the momentum of the patch, or has he finally risen to the occasion? I hope so, it would be sweet if Yugioh suddenly became awesome, think of all the hilariously lame Yugioh jokes to be made by Tastosis :D
Expect:
Symbol 2-0 Parting
MKP 2-0 Yugioh
MKP 1-2 Symbol
Yugioh 2-0 Parting
Yugioh 1-2 MKP
Hope:
Yugioh screams "YUGIOOOOOOOHHHHH" and then like, grows 7 inches taller and his voice gets deep and then he proceeds to destroy the group 4-0. Also, MMA becomes Joey Wheeler :p Parting 2-0'ed twice !? Never gonna happen imo. Have you seen Parting as of late? I think it's very very probable tbh. Parting is not in the shape he was the last couple of seasons.
Agreed, it makes me sad as a Parting fan but ever since getting 2-0'd by Stephano at Red Bull he has not looked very good...
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MKP best chance to get out of the group is to get a little lucky against Yugioh and have his other win be Parting. I dont see any other way really for MKP to get out of this group.
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On June 19 2012 14:53 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 06:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
We're finally to the interesting groups :D
Despite Symbol's disappointing showing at Anaheim, I think he'll come first. He just seems like an excellent preparation player.
MKP will probably advance with Symbol in 2nd place. Not much to say.
Parting will probably go 4th. His PvZ isn't especially bad, but he's not that great either, Symbol should definitely beat him and Yugioh I'd favor as well. While his bread and butter, PvT, will be against MKP who usually beats him (although he failed to in the gsl last season..).
Yugioh, I'm very intrigued to see. I always found him to be pretty lame, but last time I saw him he played excellent against MKP. Since there hasn't been much outside of his brief run to code S, it's hard to know where he stands. Was he just riding the momentum of the patch, or has he finally risen to the occasion? I hope so, it would be sweet if Yugioh suddenly became awesome, think of all the hilariously lame Yugioh jokes to be made by Tastosis :D
Expect:
Symbol 2-0 Parting
MKP 2-0 Yugioh
MKP 1-2 Symbol
Yugioh 2-0 Parting
Yugioh 1-2 MKP
Hope:
Yugioh screams "YUGIOOOOOOOHHHHH" and then like, grows 7 inches taller and his voice gets deep and then he proceeds to destroy the group 4-0. Also, MMA becomes Joey Wheeler :p Parting 2-0'ed twice !? Never gonna happen imo.
Parting PvZ is pretty weak compared to his PvT.
Him getting 2-0ed by Symbol won't be an upset.
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Symbol for no1 plz.
Could use another zerg in r16.
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fucking most epic group ever. so hyped, no one knows yugioh though, i'll cheer for year of the zergs! I'll be happy with any of them advancing anyway ^^ awesome games today!
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Marineking come on bring on the S-class play today and crush this group! Fighting!
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On June 19 2012 15:16 Adreme wrote:
MKP best chance to get out of the group is to get a little lucky against Yugioh and have his other win be Parting. I dont see any other way really for MKP to get out of this group.
What? MarineKing 2-0'd Symbol with ease, despite the current state of TvZ.
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On June 19 2012 15:15 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 15:03 Fragile51 wrote:On June 19 2012 14:53 samurai80 wrote:On June 19 2012 06:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
We're finally to the interesting groups :D
Despite Symbol's disappointing showing at Anaheim, I think he'll come first. He just seems like an excellent preparation player.
MKP will probably advance with Symbol in 2nd place. Not much to say.
Parting will probably go 4th. His PvZ isn't especially bad, but he's not that great either, Symbol should definitely beat him and Yugioh I'd favor as well. While his bread and butter, PvT, will be against MKP who usually beats him (although he failed to in the gsl last season..).
Yugioh, I'm very intrigued to see. I always found him to be pretty lame, but last time I saw him he played excellent against MKP. Since there hasn't been much outside of his brief run to code S, it's hard to know where he stands. Was he just riding the momentum of the patch, or has he finally risen to the occasion? I hope so, it would be sweet if Yugioh suddenly became awesome, think of all the hilariously lame Yugioh jokes to be made by Tastosis :D
Expect:
Symbol 2-0 Parting
MKP 2-0 Yugioh
MKP 1-2 Symbol
Yugioh 2-0 Parting
Yugioh 1-2 MKP
Hope:
Yugioh screams "YUGIOOOOOOOHHHHH" and then like, grows 7 inches taller and his voice gets deep and then he proceeds to destroy the group 4-0. Also, MMA becomes Joey Wheeler :p Parting 2-0'ed twice !? Never gonna happen imo. Have you seen Parting as of late? I think it's very very probable tbh. Parting is not in the shape he was the last couple of seasons. Agreed, it makes me sad as a Parting fan but ever since getting 2-0'd by Stephano at Red Bull he has not looked very good...
Well, this group is pretty insane so maybe he can be demolished. But I mean, twice 2-0'ed is not that probable imo. If it happens it will mean he's in a slump right now.
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